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Hans21
05-11-05, 08:43 AM
Is a 2004 Mongoose Street BMX any gd, he is selling it used but he has more or less never ridden it....price dosent relly matter all i want to know is if there is better bikes out there for the same price? He is selling it for around 250 i think im not sure becasue were i live we use kroner and its 2000 kroner. Right nor the excahange rate is around 6 bucks.


BMXTRIX
05-11-05, 05:52 PM
As far as I know, Mongoose doesn't have a bike called 'Street BMX' - they do make about half a dozen different bikes designed for street riding though. Find an exact model name.

It's like asking if a Chevy 2-door is any good... You could be talking about a Cavalier (not so good) or a Corvette (yeah, that's better)... Not enough info.

CMcMahon
05-11-05, 06:47 PM
Corvette (yeah, that's better)

Sure, if you only like driving in a straight line.


BMXTRIX
05-11-05, 11:50 PM
Sure, if you only like driving in a straight line.
Always better, in almost every way, than a Cavalier though. Trying to stay within a brand. You can always go with an Acura RSX vs. the NSX... that better? Except the RSX doesn't suck, even on the low end the way a Cavalier does.

And Yugo... well, nothing was ever remotely good from them.

Any comparisons you want to make?

e30driver
05-11-05, 11:58 PM
hay bmxtrix
iam a bmw fan (i also drive one look at name) so why not this
325 vs. m3?
m3 vs. m5?
3 series vs. 6 series?

i know bmw's dont do so good in quarter mile but once you hit the canyons thoes fast quartemile cars dont have a chance vs. bmw supension!!!!
bmw=best handling (good enough to run on a track with lots of turns, STOCK!!!!!!)


sry not bike related, but cars were added to the mix

Brian
05-12-05, 03:45 AM
I've seen a Datsun 510 (BRE) with $1500 worth of suspension absolutely spank all sorts of BMWs (and nearly everything else) when I used to race Mulholland. I had a grey market 1600 that was pretty quick. I paid $400 in towing/impound fees to buy it, and it came with receipts for about $8k of engine work. I also had a 1968 Camaro with about 400Hp at one time, plus a fully built Landcruiser. Now that I'm married with a bunch of kids, it's back to bicycles.

But I digress. Yes, we'll need to know what kind of Mongoose so the young w@nkers can talk smack about it.

bmxrdr88
05-12-05, 03:17 PM
mongooses suck balls

Brian
05-12-05, 03:30 PM
mongooses suck balls

Your ignorance is showing. If you're going to be that stupid, go outside and play in the rain or something, and stay away from the computer.

queensrider86
05-12-05, 06:55 PM
Your ignorance is showing. If you're going to be that stupid, go outside and play in the rain or something, and stay away from the computer.


If you are going to be that uptight, go to a roadbike forum, and stay away from the bmx

BMXTRIX
05-12-05, 09:02 PM
mongooses suck balls
This bike:
http://www.mongoose.com/bikes/detail.php?id=272&brandLine=Pro_US&brandID=44

Likely blows the pants off of any bike you will own in your lifetime and is one of the best completes I have ever seen. Their other two team bikes kick butt as well.

Brian
05-13-05, 01:38 AM
If you are going to be that uptight, go to a roadbike forum, and stay away from the bmx

Why don't you kids grow up and not be such immature little snots? You guys are stupid. You're as label conscious as the roadies. I bet you just hate it when some kid on a bike cheaper than yours can do more tricks, and rides better than you. If it wasn't for Mongoose and Redline and SE Racing, there wouldn't be Haro, DK, or whatever you guys ride today. Hell, if it wasn't for Schwinn and Huffy, there probably wouldn't have been the others either.

This forum is for enthusiasts to share ideas, help each other, encourage riders, and promote cycling. If you want to just be an idiot, go pharq off with your buddies. This guy asked for some help, and the best you kids can do is knock the brand without even knowing what model he's referring to.

KinetikBiker
05-13-05, 07:44 AM
This bike:
http://www.mongoose.com/bikes/detail.php?id=272&brandLine=Pro_US&brandID=44

Likely blows the pants off of any bike you will own in your lifetime and is one of the best completes I have ever seen. Their other two team bikes kick butt as well.



wow. they sure have stepped there '05 BMX line up from department store bikes...is it just me or does that frame resemble a T1 Barcode?... SNAFU parts and everything...Odyssey cassette damn.

KinetikBiker
05-13-05, 07:46 AM
Your ignorance is showing. If you're going to be that stupid, go outside and play in the rain or something, and stay away from the computer.
yup.

BMXTRIX
05-13-05, 03:18 PM
wow. they sure have stepped there '05 BMX line up from department store bikes...is it just me or does that frame resemble a T1 Barcode?... SNAFU parts and everything...Odyssey cassette damn.
Don't get me wrong - they still make department store crap... But, to be fair to them you have to look at everything and then pick what you want to judge. For the car comparison, they make Yugos, Chevys, and BMW's... The full lineup and the full range from cheap and fairly cruddy to stuff that most pros would be pretty comfortable on.

Mongoose used to be one of the best, then they really were bad, now they have both - bad and good and their 'good' is far better than the good that most other companies are putting out.

I think it is amazing what they have done, and I will definitely back them up when people talk down on their bikes without any facts supporting their claims.

Brian
05-13-05, 04:43 PM
It's a basic fact of economics that companies have to put out low-end lines in order to keep their good stuff affordable as well. Dean Titanium frames will never be affordable to most people as he doesn't offer a low end range to supplement his custom work. Mongoose is able to keep their pro level bikes more affordable by also offering less expensive bikes. I would expect most entry level bikes to be of limited quality and durability, but I doubt that you can find much fault with the high-end bikes.

queensrider86
05-13-05, 06:59 PM
If you want to just be an idiot, go pharq off with your buddies. This guy asked for some help, and the best you kids can do is knock the brand without even knowing what model he's referring to.

Pharq?

CMcMahon
05-13-05, 07:54 PM
You know exactly what he means to say. Don't play stupid.

KinetikBiker
05-14-05, 03:40 PM
Why don't you kids grow up and not be such immature little snots? You guys are stupid. You're as label conscious as the roadies. I bet you just hate it when some kid on a bike cheaper than yours can do more tricks, and rides better than you. If it wasn't for Mongoose and Redline and SE Racing, there wouldn't be Haro, DK, or whatever you guys ride today. Hell, if it wasn't for Schwinn and Huffy, there probably wouldn't have been the others either.

This forum is for enthusiasts to share ideas, help each other, encourage riders, and promote cycling. If you want to just be an idiot, go pharq off with your buddies. This guy asked for some help, and the best you kids can do is knock the brand without even knowing what model he's referring to.
um...your my new rolemodel

Brian
05-14-05, 07:59 PM
I don't know if that is scarcastic or not.

queensrider86
05-14-05, 08:39 PM
i don't know why this you people are still debating. mongoose isn't good. the complete that bmxtrix posted is good, but it costs like $500. None of the good partsare made by mongoose.

Fsa crank $100
Hazard cassette w/ 11t driver $123
510-hx chain $13
rhyno light 36h front, 48 rear $90
Snafu dirtbox front, snafu knob job rear $28
Snafu grips $10

If i added correctly, that comes out to $454 the mongoose website doesn't list the price, but it is probably around $500 . the $46 left would be the frame,fork,bars,stem
sprocket,seat+seatpost,brakes,headset,pedals, and front hub

this bike is pretty good for the price , but mongoose didn't make anything good on it

Brian
05-14-05, 11:20 PM
It's too late to save face. Get over it. There's nothing wrong with Mongoose, only you.

CMcMahon
05-14-05, 11:54 PM
Trying to say that the top level Mongoose complete is bad because most of the high-quality parts are another company's make is akin to saying that a Porsche 911 is bad because Porsche doesn't make the sound system, the tires, and the leather interior.

dooley
05-15-05, 12:23 AM
i don't know why this you people are still debating. mongoose isn't good. the complete that bmxtrix posted is good, but it costs like $500. None of the good partsare made by mongoose.

Fsa crank $100
Hazard cassette w/ 11t driver $123
510-hx chain $13
rhyno light 36h front, 48 rear $90
Snafu dirtbox front, snafu knob job rear $28
Snafu grips $10

If i added correctly, that comes out to $454 the mongoose website doesn't list the price, but it is probably around $500 . the $46 left would be the frame,fork,bars,stem
sprocket,seat+seatpost,brakes,headset,pedals, and front hub

this bike is pretty good for the price , but mongoose didn't make anything good on it

There are very few companies who actually do make anything, T1 get's their frames made for them, as do Standard, Metal, Fly, Macneil, Odyssey etc. The list of BMX companies who actually make stuff themselves is very short, S&M, FBM, Solid, maybe a couple of others. 90% of seats are made by Velo, 90% of pedals are made by Wellgo, get the idea?
.
Slagging a company off because they don't make something themselves is pretty dumb...
"hey Taj, did you weld my Barcode personally? No, then your frames suck!"

KinetikBiker
05-15-05, 06:47 AM
There are very few companies who actually do make anything, T1 get's their frames made for them, as do Standard, Metal, Fly, Macneil, Odyssey etc. The list of BMX companies who actually make stuff themselves is very short, S&M, FBM, Solid, maybe a couple of others. 90% of seats are made by Velo, 90% of pedals are made by Wellgo, get the idea?
.
Slagging a company off because they don't make something themselves is pretty dumb...
"hey Taj, did you weld my Barcode personally? No, then your frames suck!"
i think that Haro and Hoffman make there own stuff......they both have in house factorys

CMcMahon
05-15-05, 07:26 AM
Haro and Hoffman don't have in-house factories; all of their products are licensed to factories in Taiwan.

queensrider86
05-15-05, 08:20 AM
There are very few companies who actually do make anything, T1 get's their frames made for them, as do Standard, Metal, Fly, Macneil, Odyssey etc. The list of BMX companies who actually make stuff themselves is very short, S&M, FBM, Solid, maybe a couple of others. 90% of seats are made by Velo, 90% of pedals are made by Wellgo, get the idea?
.
Slagging a company off because they don't make something themselves is pretty dumb...
"hey Taj, did you weld my Barcode personally? No, then your frames suck!"


I'm saying that everything mongoose made is bad

dooley
05-15-05, 09:02 AM
Mongoose don't make anything.

Brian
05-15-05, 02:54 PM
I'm saying that everything mongoose made is bad


What do you ride?

BMXTRIX
05-17-05, 12:03 PM
I'm saying that everything mongoose made is bad
And you are being told that everything you are saying is clueless

A bike is not a frame and fork - it is the sum of all its parts. You part up almost any bike in line with the quality of the Team Mongoose bikes and you are looking at a $1,000+ bike. Instead you get it for several hundred less buying it complete from them. That's a big savings for a bike that really is incredible out of the box.

If your bike is better, odds are good that you parted it up yourself and that you spent a lot more than the complete Mongoose cost. It doesn't make their bike suck no matter how much you want it to though.

TX_Mike
05-21-05, 10:16 PM
Here is my take.

Mongoose been around since late 70's and was the Shizz back in the 80's.
Movies like RAD and BMX bandits shows alot of Mongoose bikes, maybe it was a promo deal. But I had a 83' Mongoose and used to race in 88'. Bike was tuff as heck and I could not break it for nothing!! Launch, ramp, ditches and flips. Nope not even a frame crack. I even had the single gooseneck on it. I tried everything in my power to break it to get the new haro. Even my older borther tried breaking it on ramps and stuff and no luck!! Plain out good stuff made!! But mums just laughed at me when I begged for a new bike. If anything, mongoose is one of the almighty that started the whole BMX racing and older corp bikes like Huffy and Schwinn started the whole era of just bikes alone!!!

Now I am 28 years old and still to this day love BMXs. Its been along time since I paid attention to them since the faze in the late 90s or maybe it was just me b/c I got a licenses to drive a car and never needed a bike in my teen years. But as for the new Mongoose they look as for logo appearence looks like a toy bike. Not saying they are, but just its style now and all the kiddie stickers. So I was browseing around local chain stores and saw Mongooses at Wal-Mart and Academy stores. I was like hummm.
But I sat on one and kind of jerk the handle bars and they shifted down. Maybe they were loose, but it just felt cheap. I even rode the Redline, haro F2's and Diamonback Joker and they all seemed to be better bikes, but those 3 are from a bike shop and were solid bikes. Maybe I will check out mongoose at one of the bike shops in town, they cary the PRO series, which I am sure are better made and not cheap like the ones at chain merchant stores.

But I say if you were to get a Mongoose, I would recommend the PRO like which are the ones sold at your local BIKE PRO SHOPS, not wal-marts or big chain stores, they carry the EL Cheapo ones that I am sure will not last for nothing!! Good luck!!

Brian
05-21-05, 11:35 PM
So your point is that your bars should be properly tightened? That pretty much applies to all bikes.

xxmoclov42xx
06-01-05, 04:48 PM
mongoose bikes are really durable but im not shure bout a 2004 i have a 1997 menace crome and it has been good to me for 7 years

xxmoclov42xx
06-01-05, 04:50 PM
And you are being told that everything you are saying is clueless

A bike is not a frame and fork - it is the sum of all its parts. You part up almost any bike in line with the quality of the Team Mongoose bikes and you are looking at a $1,000+ bike. Instead you get it for several hundred less buying it complete from them. That's a big savings for a bike that really is incredible out of the box.

If your bike is better, odds are good that you parted it up yourself and that you spent a lot more than the complete Mongoose cost. It doesn't make their bike suck no matter how much you want it to though.

you couldnt be anymore right

xxmoclov42xx
06-01-05, 04:53 PM
Here is my take.

Mongoose been around since late 70's and was the Shizz back in the 80's.
Movies like RAD and BMX bandits shows alot of Mongoose bikes, maybe it was a promo deal. But I had a 83' Mongoose and used to race in 88'. Bike was tuff as heck and I could not break it for nothing!! Launch, ramp, ditches and flips. Nope not even a frame crack. I even had the single gooseneck on it. I tried everything in my power to break it to get the new haro. Even my older borther tried breaking it on ramps and stuff and no luck!! Plain out good stuff made!! But mums just laughed at me when I begged for a new bike. If anything, mongoose is one of the almighty that started the whole BMX racing and older corp bikes like Huffy and Schwinn started the whole era of just bikes alone!!!

Now I am 28 years old and still to this day love BMXs. Its been along time since I paid attention to them since the faze in the late 90s or maybe it was just me b/c I got a licenses to drive a car and never needed a bike in my teen years. But as for the new Mongoose they look as for logo appearence looks like a toy bike. Not saying they are, but just its style now and all the kiddie stickers. So I was browseing around local chain stores and saw Mongooses at Wal-Mart and Academy stores. I was like hummm.
But I sat on one and kind of jerk the handle bars and they shifted down. Maybe they were loose, but it just felt cheap. I even rode the Redline, haro F2's and Diamonback Joker and they all seemed to be better bikes, but those 3 are from a bike shop and were solid bikes. Maybe I will check out mongoose at one of the bike shops in town, they cary the PRO series, which I am sure are better made and not cheap like the ones at chain merchant stores.

But I say if you were to get a Mongoose, I would recommend the PRO like which are the ones sold at your local BIKE PRO SHOPS, not wal-marts or big chain stores, they carry the EL Cheapo ones that I am sure will not last for nothing!! Good luck!!

if you get any bike from a wal*mart or any kind of store like that they are awful but if you go to a mongoose dealer or a real bike shop that sells them you can get one for a great price and its not ****ty ike the wal*mart ones

Fly Bikes90
06-01-05, 06:40 PM
Pharq?
what is pharq, is that like park but in a gay slang

queensrider86
06-01-05, 06:41 PM
What do you ride?

a standard

giantcfr1
06-03-05, 10:17 AM
Mongoose; Major contributor to the history of BMX...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/giantcfr1/Shimano%20Museum%20Osaka%20Sakai%20City/ShimanoDay1004.jpg

BMXTRIX
06-03-05, 04:18 PM
a standard
Standard doesn't make bikes - they make frames & forks and some other components.

It is easy to be a bike snob when you are on a frame that costs more than most people spend on their entire bike. The hard part is finding bikes for 200 bucks that actually are halfway decent and supporting the values that those bikes have. Or even tougher, is admitting that a stock bike has about 90% of the build quality of the custom bike you are already on and spent twice as much on.

My frame: About $350.00 - not cheap and cost more than most beginners bikes. I know that balance is tough to find and you just end up sounding like a snob who is clueless about what makes a good bike AND a good value. Your bike is good - the value is really bad on that stuff new.

Brian
06-03-05, 04:51 PM
I've never spent more than $3,500.00 on a bike frame, but I don't consider myself a snob. Kids still humble me on my BMX.

queensrider86
06-03-05, 08:06 PM
Standard doesn't make bikes - they make frames & forks and some other components.

It is easy to be a bike snob when you are on a frame that costs more than most people spend on their entire bike. The hard part is finding bikes for 200 bucks that actually are halfway decent and supporting the values that those bikes have. Or even tougher, is admitting that a stock bike has about 90% of the build quality of the custom bike you are already on and spent twice as much on.

My frame: About $350.00 - not cheap and cost more than most beginners bikes. I know that balance is tough to find and you just end up sounding like a snob who is clueless about what makes a good bike AND a good value. Your bike is good - the value is really bad on that stuff new.

i don't put much money into my bike.to get new stuff, i go on ebay or i trade and i get discounts at my bike shop.i got my STA frame for $200, or half price. I just sold my STA for $200 and bought a bullit for $250.

BMXTRIX
06-04-05, 12:44 AM
Expatriate - I think you get it. There are definitely times when I don't have the patience with some of these kids as I definitely think they are being lazy when they don't look through existing posts for answers first then ask reasonable questions.

queensrider - that was $250.00 for the frame right? We are still talkin' about a frame that is about as expensive as half the bikes that kids are riding on these forums. It just seems like you need to figure out what $250.00 COMPLETE bikes are halfway decent for the money. Nothing will compare to your custom setup, so just take a look at 20 different sub-$300.00 bikes and then decide what is good. Likewise, look at complete $400.00 and $500.00 or $700.00 bikes and make decisions. Even with good deals, a really nice setup quickly runs well over $1,000 in BMX land (far less than mt. bike land) and most newbies shouldn't be spending anywhere near that kind of money to 'try out' a sport. You'll get there.

Brian
06-04-05, 01:03 AM
Crupi. Who knew? If I ever decide to waste money for the sake of the sport, I'll buy some Crupi.

KinetikBiker
06-04-05, 06:48 AM
Crupi. Who knew? If I ever decide to waste money for the sake of the sport, I'll buy some Crupi.
doesnt Crupi make good racing stuff?

Brian
06-04-05, 04:45 PM
doesnt Crupi make good racing stuff?

Yeah. People act like it's titanium with gold plating. Some guy had a used Crupi frame at the track, asking AU$1,000 or something crazy like that. Even the top racers at our track are on complete bikes that cost less than that.

KinetikBiker
06-05-05, 06:08 AM
thats crazy, i have seen their Ti frame before...but i dont see it around anymore..did they stop making it (im not up with race stuff)

arcticwolf15
06-05-05, 01:24 PM
I bought a Mongoose Hoop-D Team Issue from wal-mart and started doing vert this morning. Turns out the handlebars are aluminum and bend unbeleivably(sp?) easy, so i ****ed up my knee and elbow :-/ I came home and ripped the left handle totaly off and now I gotta get new handle bars. Goes to show Mongoose bikes from wal-mart suck, but today I saw a kid there doing back-flips and everything else on a mongoose. I asked him about it and he's saying it's all stock just got it yesterday, and he hasn't had a problem. He bought it from a local pro shop that I'm going to check out very soon...So yes Wal-Mart brand is gay...Pro brand kicks butt.

Brian
06-05-05, 02:55 PM
How much was your Wal Mart Mongoose?

Murdoc
06-06-05, 08:29 PM
Hey All,
I have been browsing the site for a wile and just joined. I personally ride a Mongoose Pro Rogue since 1999 or 2000 i believe but i have ahd that frame off big jumps 8 - 15 feet high to flatlanding not that its a flatland frame but i used it jsut to see if i liked flatland. I think if you buy the uppen class models from Mongoose then you will get a solid bike, if you buy a bike from Wal-Mart or Canadian Tire then your going to get what you paid for.. crap all. I don't see how you can judge a company who's been succesful for the last 30 years, who have top of the line bikes and who have pros bring home the golds every year. Mongoose makes the lower quality bikes for a reason, to appeal to those who can't afford the 600 - 700$ bikes and want to ride anyways.

- Murdoc

arcticwolf15
06-08-05, 06:02 PM
How much was your Wal Mart Mongoose?


It was around $100

Totalnewb
06-08-05, 08:31 PM
Look if you want a fairly light bike sure go with a mongose but if want a good all around bike i'd get a fit or haro