Mountain Biking - Funny Rodaie discussion - I got passed by a MTB ha ha

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crashnburn
05-12-05, 10:39 AM
Funnny discussion of a road rider getting passed by a Mountain Bike
Here (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=1156206#post1156206)
I know I am posting about another post however I don't think we all frequent the road section too often.


jc1
05-12-05, 10:41 AM
There is a road section here???

Drunken Chicken
05-12-05, 11:13 AM
Funnny discussion of a road rider getting passed by a Mountain Bike
Here (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=1156206#post1156206)
I know I am posting about another post however I don't think we all frequent the road section too often.
Hilarious! :D Especially the post about being passed by a jogger while climbing a fireroad. :lol: Happened to me once, I felt kinda enbarrassed. :p


telenick
05-12-05, 11:14 AM
...if you have to ride a MUP to get where you need to be nothing's more satisfying than passing a roadie while you're JRA. ;)

Maelstrom
05-12-05, 11:15 AM
I've never had the chance. All the people that would be roadies here have mountain bikes and ride trails, and I definately am not passing any of those beasts on the way up :)

jeff williams
05-12-05, 12:32 PM
I did a comparision between 26 and 700 rims, I can run either with small mods.

With my max gear 11-38, 170mm cranks, 80rpm =the difference was only 1.1 mph.

I can keep up to most road riders on hills, flats -no way, not with my gearing.

I feel it's the tires and riding position more than the frame geometry. Oh, weight as well, my bikes 22 lbs so it is pretty easy to get the speed up, and I'm riding seat up XC close to correct knee\spindle.

I don't think i'd post passing a road bike boast, they might be on the downside of a many mile run -I can get passed by Grandmas on cruisers after a day in the hills.

I have chased good riders road, but I jump curbs\ride lawns\dirt alleys, anything to keep up. Fun stuff!
The road riders all 'wow, I sure dropped him' -BAM, I shoot out of some parking lot @ 25 mph and right on his wheel.
Oh, no..here we go again....

Man I love riding.

harov3
05-13-05, 03:51 AM
Yeah if your running slicks then most often you just run out of gears!

santiago
05-13-05, 07:17 AM
I keep forgetting there are other sections here. I hit the Mountain Bike sub-section directly. Case in point, my other thread regarding pedal installation should have been posted in some kind of bike maintenance section but given that I was asking about my Crank Brother Candy SL's, it made more sense to keep it within the Mountain Biking section.

Interesting read though.

Akak
05-13-05, 07:35 AM
I was racing a triathlon about 10 years ago on my MTB. It was modified with high pressure slicks and an aero bar but it was still an MTB.

After the race (I took 5th in my age group :)) I was putting my bike back in the car when this guy comes walking up to me. He says "Hey, I just want to thank you for saving me $1500."

"Huh?" I eloquently replied.

"Well, I was getting passed by lots of guys riding bikes with carbon fiber disks, deep rims, and Spynergy wheels. I was frustrated and told myself I was buying new wheels TODAY. Then you passed me on a mountain bike and I realized it wasn't my wheels that was the problem."

:)

Ronan 9
05-13-05, 09:14 AM
I was racing a triathlon about 10 years ago on my MTB. It was modified with high pressure slicks and an aero bar but it was still an MTB.

After the race (I took 5th in my age group :)) I was putting my bike back in the car when this guy comes walking up to me. He says "Hey, I just want to thank you for saving me $1500."

"Huh?" I eloquently replied.

"Well, I was getting passed by lots of guys riding bikes with carbon fiber disks, deep rims, and Spynergy wheels. I was frustrated and told myself I was buying new wheels TODAY. Then you passed me on a mountain bike and I realized it wasn't my wheels that was the problem."

:)

LOL!!!

SpiderMike
05-13-05, 09:55 AM
I got passed the other day while pulling a 19.5 ave by a very fit younger woman. If I was a little upset, it was quickly washed away by the view I had for the next couple miles....nice lycra.

In the words of Little John.... YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!

Raiyn
05-14-05, 12:37 AM
In the words of Little John.... YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!
Psssh In the words of Flavor Flav Yeeeeeeeeaaaah Buh OYYYYY

serious
05-14-05, 06:22 AM
It is all relative. Here is an example:

Elite men or pro riders average about 20-21km/hr on one of the XC race courses where I often ride. However, average riders with enough skill to manage this course (like me) are far slower. My usual speed on that course is 12-14 km/hr. I guarantee to you all that there are elite trail runners who can do much better than that. They would certainly pass me and many ultra trail runners can run for 25-50km no problem.

Dannihilator
05-14-05, 06:55 AM
It is all relative. Here is an example:

Elite men or pro riders average about 20-21km/hr on one of the XC race courses where I often ride. However, average riders with enough skill to manage this course (like me) are far slower. My usual speed on that course is 12-14 km/hr. I guarantee to you all that there are elite trail runners who can do much better than that. They would certainly pass me and many ultra trail runners can run for 25-50km no problem.


Ditto. I don't think a trailrunner could keep up with a pro downhiller though.;) :D

Ronan 9
05-14-05, 08:53 AM
Ditto. I don't think a trailrunner could keep up with a pro downhiller though.;) :D

they would have to be FALLING really fast! besides the "downhill runner" wouldn't be much to look at when they finished. :P

cyclezealot
05-14-05, 09:01 AM
I recall seeing this cyclist who actually was a roadie, I later discovered...But he trained on a titanium mtn.bike...he was darn fast... The drag of mtn bikes made him much faster when he rode his road bike...
when approaching a difficult century ride, and dead tired, I have had farm workers pass me on beater bikes...no big deal to me. at that time, distance was my objective.

iamlucky13
05-14-05, 09:54 PM
Hehe. I remember passing a roadie once on my mountain bike. She was cute, too, but I was feeling a little shy that day.

Ok, she was actually on a rockhopper, but it was set up commuter. She had 1.5's and clipless and she was in riding gear. I'm on 2.1's with platforms and I was wearing jean's at the time. Coming home from a friend's house I found myself behind her going up a slight slope. I was gaining a little bit so I went ahead and passed while the traffic was light. The ground leveled out and I changed cadence. I glance back and on the level ground, she's gaining! Ahh! She's gonna think I was showing off and can't hold my pace. I kick it up a notch to keep the distance up. My legs are getting sore. This isn't working. Finally I give in and head deliberately down a side street as though that were where I was going, just to save face.

I think the whole thing would've worked out way better if I'd just gotten her phone number. :rolleyes:

khuon
05-14-05, 10:12 PM
I have chased good riders road, but I jump curbs\ride lawns\dirt alleys, anything to keep up. Fun stuff!
The road riders all 'wow, I sure dropped him' -BAM, I shoot out of some parking lot @ 25 mph and right on his wheel.

Back in high school, a friend of mine and I used to argue about which was faster... a roadbike or a mountain bike. He had a roadbike (Trek 400), I had a mountain bike (Specialized HardRock Sport). He challenged me to a race from one part of town to the other. We arrived at the destination at nearly the same time. I beat him by a slight margin. He took the roads and I took some "shortcuts" which included riding down the stairs of the train underpath and cutting through the pedestrian tunnel.

cyclezealot
05-15-05, 09:38 AM
I think we asked the wrong question...The question need be...How would a Mtn. biker feel when competing against a roadie after a century ride..with hills...that is a different kettle of fish.. Do Mtn. bikers even do centuries?

Killer B
05-15-05, 10:29 AM
It's two different sports altogether. I have done both. Both "can" be equally as demanding, but to me at least, MtnBiking has better scenery, and is slower & more relaxing mentally too. Bursts of energy are more often offroad, while long endurance, and stamina are most needed by road riders.
I honestly don't feel that breathing in all the exhaust emissions is very healthy either. Sort of the "More Harm than Good" saying....
Our mountain air quality here in Western, NC isn't very good eiter though, thanks to all you commuters out west. Maybe the earth will start spinning the other direction someday, huh? :eek:

santiago
05-15-05, 10:49 AM
I think we asked the wrong question...The question need be...How would a Mtn. biker feel when competing against a roadie after a century ride..with hills...that is a different kettle of fish.. Do Mtn. bikers even do centuries?


The original post didn't have a question oh Great Defender of the Roadies. :p

Maelstrom
05-15-05, 11:03 AM
I think we asked the wrong question...The question need be...How would a Mtn. biker feel when competing against a roadie after a century ride..with hills...that is a different kettle of fish.. Do Mtn. bikers even do centuries?

Some do...some do more. My uncle in law rode around ~60-90miles per day for 6 days in the trans rocky challenge, the trans-alps is even more challenging. Thats all single track and escarpments in north eastern rockies. Mountain bikers that I know usually go for metric centuries, lot less but single track at 100km probably feels close to your century :) (at least in places with mountains haha)

BTW not arguing, most mountain bikers on mountain bikes with mtb wheels haven't seen 100miles in one ride let alone a week, I am not even close (not even in my spectrum of goals either) I am pretty sure most xc riders (the real races) have ridden or do ride road bikes and have likely hit 100miles.

cyclezealot
05-15-05, 11:08 AM
The original post didn't have a question oh Great Defender of the Roadies. :p
Many a rider; speed is not all that important...I am not a racer type, but into touring...only advantage of ataining speed, guess you are stronger..and that is not bad even to a non comptetitive tourer...
but racing aspects...I do a century and the last 8 miles I am beat by some kid on a beater bike...I do not get all defensive...I go what I feel like...

Killer B
05-15-05, 11:24 AM
My longest "offroad" oneway trek (hate the brand BTW, no offense) was 32 miles non stop. I was spent to say the least. I went thru over 25 river crossings, most waist deep. The only road (which was an old logging road) was for about 4 miles. Got caught in 3 different thunderstorms that day. I simply got tired of riding on my bike after 5 hrs. It was called the Tour D'Moore, after a buddy of mine who was part of the group.

khuon
05-15-05, 01:42 PM
I think we asked the wrong question...The question need be...How would a Mtn. biker feel when competing against a roadie after a century ride..with hills...that is a different kettle of fish.. Do Mtn. bikers even do centuries?

There are quite a few MTB century races out there. And let's not forget 24hr adrenalin races. Depending on how many turns and how big a team is, each rider may complete upwards of a century or more. And a good portion of a 24hr race is done in the dark with sleep deprivation... all offroad. Here's one of the hardest offroad centuries. The Durango MTB 100.

100 mile offroad course with around 18,000 feet of climbing.

http://www.gravityplay.com/MTB100/lap1.gif
http://www.gravityplay.com/MTB100/lap2.gif
http://www.gravityplay.com/MTB100/lap3.gif

Maelstrom
05-15-05, 02:05 PM
I didn't even consider the 24 hour race haha...yueah the one in whistler, pros were doing 24 laps at almost 20km per lap if I remember right. Thats around 300miles in a day :)...the 'average' person (average for 24 hours) was doing 10 to 15 laps. Its definately done and pretty often by some of the xc guys anyways.

cyclezealot
05-15-05, 06:11 PM
khuon...better put...a mtn. biker may beat a roadie temporarily on a hard road...but, my point...like to see that same Mtn. biker follow a roadie on pavement for 100 miles.
..use their equiptment on our roads; and see how they feel ..drag and all that... I have nothing against Mtn. bikers...just one using superlatives against the other...we are all on two wheels in our domain...bet, they never talk about crossing continents...not enough dirt...they would be primarily in 'our ' element...traveling on roads..
as to scenery...Mtn. vs roadie...we both have great potential should we seek out the right venue..example..go roadie in Vermont..not an unscenic road to be found. and we as roadies' can escape from the city traffic just as easily as do Mtn. bikers..I usually do.
that is a great part of why I ride...to escape traffic congestion.

paintballdude
05-15-05, 06:29 PM
I'm glad you posted that...I never read the roadie section

ghettocruiser
05-16-05, 09:22 AM
Having both a road bike and a XC race bike, I can say there is not too much difference between them in a short haul, especially if the pavement is beat up, and the MTB is using slick or semi-slick tires.

With longer, faster, and more uphill rides the advantage of the road bike becomes more obvious. But in a straight short drag race nobody has anything to brag about.

Now if somebody on a road bike is being passed by a freeride/DH bike, that's just not right.

But as a roadie, I'll ask the same rhetorical question here that I asked on dropmachine. Why is it when I am rolling back into town burned out from a 200km ride, everybody on a MTB, Roadie, BMX, and lowrider wants to try and blow past me? Where were all these street racers at the beginning of my ride?

I'll still try not to get passed, probably because I'm an idiot. Any sane roadie would just let them go.

squeegy200
05-16-05, 01:28 PM
Hilarious! :D Especially the post about being passed by a jogger while climbing a fireroad. :lol: Happened to me once, I felt kinda enbarrassed. :p

HaHa! That was me! ;)
(I'm just waiting for that same jogger again!)

I encountered about 10 novices climbing that very same fireroad last weekend. They were spread out in a long line so I manouvered to get by each one as I passed their long train. I gave clear voice signals as I went by each rider so that they would not be surprised. However, one novice was struggling thru the challenge and that brief moment of distraction as I uttered "On your left" caught him unprepared and he did a slow speed faceplant. :eek:

Rather comical. No one was hurt. Just a bruised ego on a new MTB'r.

squeegy200
05-16-05, 01:30 PM
I'm glad you posted that...I never read the roadie section

If you check the numbers, the roadie section usually has more people currently participating than all of the other forums combined. Funny, attendance is most active and highest during normal business hours. Too many of us talking about bikes rather than working! :D :D :D

Drunken Chicken
05-16-05, 01:34 PM
HaHa! That was me! ;)
(I'm just waiting for that same jogger again!)

I encountered about 10 novices climbing that very same fireroad last weekend. They were spread out in a long line so I manouvered to get by each one as I passed their long train. I gave clear voice signals as I went by each rider so that they would not be surprised. However, one novice was struggling thru the challenge and that brief moment of distraction as I uttered "On your left" caught him unprepared and he did a slow speed faceplant. :eek:

Rather comical. No one was hurt. Just a bruised ego on a new MTB'r.
Haha! :D

When I got passed by the jogger I stopped to take a big swig of water and took lots of small breaths as if I had climbed several tens of miles in one go. :p For some reason he didn't seem to buy it. ;)