Fifty Plus (50+) - Rookie mistake with clipless pedals.

Clipless pedals - I am new to these things. I picked up my new Specialized Roubaix last Sat., and am getting used to riding it. I have been riding Hybrids with regular pedals for the last 8 years. Handling characteristics of the Roubaix are a lot different than those of my trusty Fisher Zebrano. On my first time out on the Roubaix, I just cruised around my neighborhood, practicing engaging and disengaging my shoes from the pedals. The second time out I did the 20 mile route that I have done to date on the Zebrano. There are 4 places on this route that usually require coming to a full stop. The first 3 went OK - I got my shoes detached/attached in good shape. At the 4th stop, I busted my arse quite nicely. Fortunatley, I had already come to a stop. I detached my right foot first, with the leg fully extended. I tried to hurry with the left foot, got hung up, and tipped over (to my left side) in to a car that was wating on the light in the left turn lane. This, of course solicited shreiks of dismay from the mother and daughter that were in the car. No damage was done to the car or my bike. I picked up a chain ring bite on my right leg, and a skinned knee. Out side of humiliating myself in public, all ended well. Any recommendations from experienced riders regarding the art of operating clipless pedals will be appreciated. My first experience with the things was amazing - what a difference. I aim to join the local cycling club, and participate in longer rides that hopefully have fewer stops to contend with.

well. Any recommendations from experienced riders regarding the art of operating clipless pedals will be appreciated. My first experience with the things was amazing - what a difference. I aim to join the local cycling club, and participate in longer rides that hopefully have fewer stops to contend with.

Best recommendation is to set them up loose. I can't ride like that now but it is easier to get out of them. One of my first rides with them was a 100miler, and I got on fine with them-Till a quick brake as the trail turned left and we hadn't spotted it left me in a heap. Haven't fallen off since as far as I can remember, but one of our highlights on our rides, is slowing right down, then doing a Trackstand, and watch the newcomer to SPD's panic.

There's no need to unclip both feet unless you're getting off the bike. Unclip just one side before you come to a stop. Stand on the pedal that's still clipped in, and roll to a stop, placing your free foot down on the ground. Don't unclip too early or you'll forget which foot you unclipped and "fall" the wrong way (I've done this).

practice makes perfect
in fact once you get used to them you'll never want to go back to the clip-type pedals
i used to ride detto pietro shoes with nailed on cleats (30 years ago)
the clipless pedals provide a much greater degree of freedom in leg movement without loss of upward power

enjoy

Always

Before stopping, unclip
then stop...
Whenever I see a potential stopping point, I at least get ready to unclip (it's a mental thing)

I used clipless for the first this Feb (SPD's) have not had a fall yet (knock on wood)... BUT
I pitched the SPD's in favor of Speedplay Frogs
They are bit easier to get in and out and have much more forgiving 'play' or float (I have a bad knee) They are great. They are a bit more $$ but I got a pair in great shape second hand and saved some dough

practice makes perfect
in fact once you get used to them you'll never want to go back to the clip-type pedals
i used to ride detto pietro shoes with nailed on cleats (30 years ago)
the clipless pedals provide a much greater degree of freedom in leg movement without loss of upward power

enjoy

Ditto - just to reaffirm - I never unclip both pedals unless I am dismounting my bike.

Unclip the side that seems natural - the same one all the time, and get used to leaning your bike to that side automatically. Works like a charm. Also, you can take off faster as youa lready have one foot clipped in, giving you an edge.

I see that you have gotten plenty of advice. Just know that we have all been there done that. The first day I went clipless, I too experienced the incredibly helpless, frustrating, embarrassing incident of slowly and helplessly falling over.

Also, know that it even happens on occasion to very experienced cyclists. My fiancé’s son is a pro, and while at the Olympic training center in Colorado Springs, he came on a group of female Olympians. He was so much concentrating on them, that he unclipped unsuccessfully, and unceremoniously fell over in front of them. He describes it as the most embarrassing moment of his life! :D

If it is good enough for him, we mere motals can ocassionally find ourselves on our keisters!

Hey rookie, it will happen AGAIN. Last ride, my buddy did the same on his neat shiny Cervelo. This guy is hugely experienced. He recently completed an epic trip pedaling across SE Asia, Turkey and all of Europe. Just don't hurt yourself and smile when you get up!

Tyson

Just to echo some advice; set them up loose for a few weeks and ALWAYS unclip well before you stop. I unclip my weaker leg (my left) so I'm clipped and ready to push off at stop lights with my right. After many years of clips getting into them quickly at stop lights with traffic behind me, is still the toughest part. After a while it's just like using a stick shift...you won't even think about it.

My first fall over was onto a city curb that had just been painted bright traffic yellow....it amused the pedestrians as I was trying to look cool and ruined one pair of now bumble bee colored shorts. :)

Steve

Okay, which 50+ folks have NEVER fallen (due primarily to their failure to clip out appropriately)?

I fell twice within the first month of getting them, in 1999. Never since.

Anyone with the claim to fame of "Never Fallen because of clips?"

Of course, for this claim, you must use clipins! :D

I have been on my back doing the “Turtle” more than once! Have not experienced it for a while ….. hope I didn't jinx myself.

Yes, I have had a few embarrasing falls. Usually it happens when I make a sudden, expected stop.

Thanks to all for the advice and recommendations. I just got back from another "trial" ride; this time with all body parts intact. It looks as though I will be putting the "2000 perfect repetitions = muscle memory" theory to the test here.

- tks for the anecdote... now i'm too scared about what will happen to me, and will never use clipless pedals!

:-)

- tks for the anecdote... now i'm too scared about what will happen to me, and will never use clipless pedals!

:-) There is nothing wrong with good old-fashioned toeclips, which I still have on all of my bikes. The thought of having clipless on one or two bikes and clips on the others and reacting properly as I come to an emergency stop scares me. (I am a natural-born klutz, rather than a natural athlete.)

Do you remember "Laugh-In"? I did the classic Arnie Johnson( I stopped and then fell over to my right) at a stop light because I forgot I was clipped in! UFF DA!!! besides being completely embarassed I think I scared the motorists. Now, as I approach a stop, light or sign I clip out. In group rides I'll clip out earlier then I need to, because of the element of unpredictability.

There is nothing wrong with good old-fashioned toeclips, which I still have on all of my bikes. The thought of having clipless on one or two bikes and clips on the others and reacting properly as I come to an emergency stop scares me. (I am a natural-born klutz, rather than a natural athlete.)

Okay, I haven't fallen with my SPDs, but then I've only had them for a week. I did, however, keel over rather dramatically the first time I ever used toe clips.

I fell at the end of my first ride with clipless. Pulled up to the car, stopped, and opps! Forgot I was riding clipless and fell over.

Any recommendations from experienced riders regarding the art of operating clipless pedals will be appreciated.

I'm in a distinct minority, but since you asked.. Get rid of the clipless pedals and the funky shoes, and go back to a set of pedals with no connections all. This is safer, more comfortable, and not significantly less efficient than being clipped, strapped, or otherwise mechanically attached to the bike. If you're climbing a lot, I can see where "ankling" (as it used to be euphamistically called) might help, but in general, don't bother with clips or straps.

In My Humble Opinion (IMHO).

I am fortunate that after a year of clipless pedals, I have not fallen off the road bike due to "failure to unclip" My first real ride with them was on the MTB through lots of rock gardens - lots of slow falls into rocks due to unclip failures. I guess the character building exercise worked, at least for road bikes. I still have the occasional moment on the mountain bike, but have found that the secret to traversing rock gardens is to ride faster!

I'm planning on taking the plunge this weekend and getting some clipless shoes. Is there anything I need to know or watch for. Or are they all about the same and just get a pair that fits well?

I'm planning on taking the plunge this weekend and getting some clipless shoes. Is there anything I need to know or watch for. Or are they all about the same and just get a pair that fits well?

They're all too narrow, they all have a stiff sole that prevents normal walking, the road shoes have cleats that tear up floors and that get damaged if you walk on pavement, they're all too expensive, and they're all a waste of money. I guess that just about sums it up. Oh - and if you get anything but the exactly correct type of shoes AND cleats, they won't work with your pedals.

well, I'm not sure I'ld like them, so target price for first pair is < $50. I can always upgrade later if lower quality shoes, but didn't want to waste $100 on shoes I either can't adjust to or don't work any better than the normal platform.

well, I'm not sure I'ld like them, so target price for first pair is < $50. I can always upgrade later if lower quality shoes, but didn't want to waste $100 on shoes I either can't adjust to or don't work any better than the normal platform.

What size are yo feet? I bought a pair of Specialized shoes, rode around the block one time, and put them back in the box forever. I'm planning on selling on e-Bay. These are Specialized Sport MTBs in size 47 (EU), 13.5 (USA).

I'm in a distinct minority, but since you asked.. Get rid of the clipless pedals and the funky shoes, and go back to a set of pedals with no connections all. This is safer, more comfortable, and not significantly less efficient than being clipped, strapped, or otherwise mechanically attached to the bike. If you're climbing a lot, I can see where "ankling" (as it used to be euphamistically called) might help, but in general, don't bother with clips or straps.

In My Humble Opinion (IMHO).

I agree. I did my first Europe tour clipless, but now I just tour with running shoes that have good support. It has the advantage of being easier when pushing the bike up a hill (no shame in that) or walking into shops, restaurants, museums, etc. My panniers are lighter with 1 less pair of shoes. On my weekend rides I sometimes wear the cleats and sometimes the running shoes, and I really can't say I lose much efficiency with the running shoes.

What size are yo feet? I bought a pair of Specialized shoes, rode around the block one time, and put them back in the box forever. I'm planning on selling on e-Bay. These are Specialized Sport MTBs in size 47 (EU), 13.5 (USA).


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They're all too narrow, they all have a stiff sole that prevents normal walking, the road shoes have cleats that tear up floors and that get damaged if you walk on pavement, they're all too expensive, and they're all a waste of money. I guess that just about sums it up. Oh - and if you get anything but the exactly correct type of shoes AND cleats, they won't work with your pedals.

I use mtn bike clipless shoes.

They don't tear up the floor, they keep me connsected to my bike, they walk on pavement just fine - and I especially like the sandals - and they don't tear up anything.

My sandals and my shoes interchange completely with no problems.

Wow, you must have had a bad dealer somewhere!

My shoes cost about $39 and my sandals $78. The mtn biking Shimano cleats were about $50.00.


And I LOVE THEM!

They're all too narrow, they all have a stiff sole that prevents normal walking, the road shoes have cleats that tear up floors and that get damaged if you walk on pavement, they're all too expensive, and they're all a waste of money. I guess that just about sums it up. Oh - and if you get anything but the exactly correct type of shoes AND cleats, they won't work with your pedals.

I paid less than $30 for my cycling sandals and I can definitely walk in them without discomfort and without tearing up the floor or damaging the pavement as the clip is recessed. I took them with me to the LBS and paid $50 for a pair of Shimano pedals to fit the sandals.

So far, it has been a positive experience for me, even including one fall. I'm working on getting better at spinning and I feel being clipped in helps me keep my feet properly located.

I said I was in the minority - I know the majority of youse guys just *LOVE* your clipless pedals and shoes. I don't deny they may be the Paris Hilton if you want to climb or if you want to stink of racing - but they aint me. The shoes I bought were MTB shoes with recessed cleats. They still tear up the floor, scrape on pavement, and make walking absurd. Each to their own.

They're all too narrow, they all have a stiff sole that prevents normal walking, the road shoes have cleats that tear up floors and that get damaged if you walk on pavement, they're all too expensive, and they're all a waste of money. I guess that just about sums it up. Oh - and if you get anything but the exactly correct type of shoes AND cleats, they won't work with your pedals.


Not all, cannondale makes a pair of MTB that are WIDE. I wear 10.5 EEE and size 11 fit. I did not have to go to size 12 to get a fit. Cost was fair, $60. I cheated for fit. I went to the same performance shop I always go to and had the salesman [store manager] put the cleats in the shoes. They work fine. I don't yet work with them. I took a 5 min spin and had one fall, putting the cleats IN. I expected to fall trying to clip out and not in.

Do I like them, heck if I know. It's way way too early to say. I'll know in a couple of weeks. I don't plan to walk much in them. My plan is to ride to work, switch to tennies for the day, switch back for ride home and leave 1..2 pair of tennies at work. Now if I can just adjust to the clip in/out without falling too much, i.e. at all. I'm going to struggle with the process because even in the short ride I did, it was easier to pedal since I could push and pull.

I don't know about others, but a temporary solution I have found to getting used to clipless shoes is to pedal one to two revs and then clip in. After one ride in this is what I observered:

1. not magic bullet, still have to pump legs
2. feels about like a 1/2 to one gear change
3. speed increases about 1/2 to 1 mph with same effort.

This is without learning new mechanics where now can use more effectient stroking.

I was really distracted today trying to adjust to a helmet mirror, fingerless gloves and clips.
Since I use them for commuting, I now have a pair of tennies at work and change when I get in.

Is this about the experience you all have had with clipless pedals? I think I'll probably fall on the pavement at least once. It was funny, a dad had two eight year olds riding around the soccer fields parking lot when I was trying to learn to clip in/out on the soccer fields. They took encouragement that even an old dude will fall.

I finally went clipless 5 years ago, and haven't fallen, yet. Started with Shimano PD-M324 pedals, which are SPD on one side, platform on the other. Use the platform (not clipped in) when in traffic or tired, and enjoy clipless when cranking miles. Tension is on lightest setting, and can easily clip out by turning ankle in any direction. Shoes are touring (Carnac Ventoux) or Shimano sandals, and are comfortable to walk in.

I have similar pedals. Platform on one side and clip on the other.

How do you adjust tension? I have to think hard, clip out, and crank the leg out to unclip. They don't unclip if I turn the leg counter clockwise.

Okay, which 50+ folks have NEVER fallen (due primarily to their failure to clip out appropriately)?

I fell twice within the first month of getting them, in 1999. Never since.

Anyone with the claim to fame of "Never Fallen because of clips?"

Of course, for this claim, you must use clipins! :D

It does surprise me, but after 3260 miles since February of last year, I have not fallen once! I've got Shimano PD-A515 pedals, first on a Fuji Finest, then on a Specialized Roubaix. I started out just riding around the neighborhood and unclipping one pedal at least 50-75 feet before I planned to stop. I actually had more trouble with my cleats feeling really slick & thinking one foot would slip trying to swing my leg over the seat when I'd start up. But it turned out that I had set my seat a little too high which contributed to the awkward feeling.

I'm just a duffer recreational rider, riding to improve fitness and lose weight.

I hate the feeling of riding without clipless pedals. My connection to platform pedals is too vague, constantly repositioning my foot on the platform. At a stop it's awkward getting a pedal into the starting (up & forward) position... with clipless I just lift my leg.

I've never fallen all the way over with them either, although I have had some close calls. As I approach a stop I unclip my right foot and put it on the ground as I stop, simultaneously positioning the left one for starting off by lifting that leg.

I use Speedplay Frogs and the huge amount of float they have is kind to my knees. I have two pair of MTB shoes (Sidi Dominator and Carnac Sirius) with Frog cleats installed on both pair.