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randya
06-02-05, 09:25 PM
Idaho Statutes: TITLE 49 MOTOR VEHICLES: CHAPTER 7 PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES
49-720. STOPPING
(1) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a stop sign shall slow down and, if required for safety, stop before entering the intersection. After slowing to a reasonable speed or stopping, the person shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another highway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time the person is moving across or within the intersection or junction of highways, except that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a turn or proceed through the intersection without stopping.
(2) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a steady red traffic-control signal shall stop before entering the intersection, except that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a right-hand turn without
stopping or may cautiously make a left-hand turn onto a one-way highway without stopping.

genec
06-02-05, 11:01 PM
Idaho Statutes: TITLE 49 MOTOR VEHICLES: CHAPTER 7 PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES
49-720. STOPPING
(1) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a stop sign shall slow down and, if required for safety, stop before entering the intersection. After slowing to a reasonable speed or stopping, the person shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle in the intersection or approaching on another highway so closely as to constitute an immediate hazard during the time the person is moving across or within the intersection or junction of highways, except that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a turn or proceed through the intersection without stopping.
(2) A person operating a bicycle or human-powered vehicle approaching a steady red traffic-control signal shall stop before entering the intersection, except that a person after slowing to a reasonable speed and yielding the right-of-way if required, may cautiously make a right-hand turn without
stopping or may cautiously make a left-hand turn onto a one-way highway without stopping.


Right on. The cyclists version of right on red... or better yet, yield on stop... about time. Wonder what it would take to introduce this to other states?

thechrisproject
06-03-05, 06:51 AM
Wow. I like that, but I wonder if it would make cagers resentful in some areas.

Ebbtide
06-03-05, 07:04 AM
Do we have any members from Idaho?

Buckwad
06-03-05, 10:20 AM
Right on. The cyclists version of right on red... or better yet, yield on stop... about time. Wonder what it would take to introduce this to other states?

I believe that Oregon is considering a similar change in the traffic laws still, or at least was as of 2003.

http://www.bclu.org/stops/

Spudz
06-03-05, 10:44 AM
Do we have any members from Idaho?

I am on the eastern side of the state and have not heard of anyone being resentful of cyclists in that regard. But then again, there aren't many of us that regularly commute. I am treated as quite the curosity because I bike to work. Maybe in Boise, our biggest city there may be more cyclists, more cagers and a whole different attitude. But here in the sticks, I have had a pretty easy go of it.

muccapazza
06-03-05, 11:18 PM
Wow. I like that, but I wonder if it would make cagers resentful in some areas.
They would need to have awareness first to be resentful, I've seen all kinds of strange behavior, be it blowing thru stop signs without slowing or stopping for no reason when they have the right of way to let me proceed when I have a stop sign in front of me. I honestly wasn't aware of that either, that's how I ride anyway, just use common sense and assume the worst.

Helmet Head
06-04-05, 08:33 AM
Careful, getting more and more differentiation in treatment by the law for cyclists, no matter how positive, could lead to differentiation that works against us (like banning from roadways).

On the one hand, this law is clearly based on an underlying assumption that cyclists have legitimate right to travel on the roadway, and, to some extent, therefore strengthens that right.

Sawtooth
06-06-05, 08:56 AM
I live in Boise and commute 20 miles each day. I enjoy the law as it is but rarely get to take advantage of it. When our club rides, we rarely use the red light as a stop sign. I believe that most drivers here do not know the law and become frustrated when they see us "cheating". That being said, I bet a lot of us ride our bikes just so that we can "cheat". There is nothing more satisfying than commuting 10 miles faster on my bike than I could in my car (28 minutes versus 45 on my way home). Traffic here is absolutely terrible as our major growth has not been well planned for. We still have only 1.5 freeways (east-west only) and the exits are sparse. Moreover, the artierials feeding those exits are mostly 35 mph zones with stoplights every 1/2 mile or so. Driving anywhere in Boise is frustating to saw the least. On my commute home, I usually filter past 20-40 cars at every light but I rarely if ever use it as a stop sign because the road it intersects is so jam-packed with cars that I never have the chance to do so until the light turns green.