Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Nashbar Track hubs - on sale

Just to let you know:

Nashbar Rear Hi-Flange Flip Flop Track/Road hub - on sale for $29.95

Nashbar Front Hi-Flange Track/Road hub - on sale for $14.95

current coupons:

10% off entire order! CR203 ending 06/13/2005

15% off entire order! AZ52 ending 06/12/2005

Is the Sun M13/Shimano 2200 wheelset worth 85 bucks?

Any idea what the width would be?

awesome! thanks for the info - i just ordered a set. i've been waiting for them to go on sale, and add the coupon = yipee!

Is the Sun M13/Shimano 2200 wheelset worth 85 bucks?

Any idea what the width would be?
those are road wheels, my guess: 100mm front, 130mm back. I believe 130mm is current rear road spacing. Might want to check in the Road Cycling Forum as someone might know more in that forum section.

Totally worth it. My shop charges $65 for a M13II/HB-2200 front alone.

It's hardly high end, but it's not trash either. The M13II is a solid, if unremarkable, rim and while the 2200 is a loose ball hub, I can't say that I've had any problems with it even in inclement weather use. Both my fixed 700c bikes have HB-2200 fronts.

Thanks for the tip, ordered a pair myself!

I broke another spoke on my bumbike wheel today, so I think its the gods telling me to build up a new wheelset..

Now to find cheap spokes and hubs. ;)

peace,
sam

Thanks for the tip, ordered a pair myself!

I broke another spoke on my bumbike wheel today, so I think its the gods telling me to build up a new wheelset..

Now to find cheap spokes and hubs. ;)

peace,
sam

oddsandendos.com has 14 gauge wheelsmith for $0.32/spoke and you can order an exact amount.

*bonus* you get a choice of nipples.

is this hub any better than the suzue jr.? i jsut stripped out the fixed side of the jr and need a new hub. and this is CHEAP. thanks

Thanks for the feedback. I measured the Peugeot (CFX-10) frame and fork and it is 130/100.

i ended up ordering a hub too. hopefully it will last a bit longer than my last one, but worse case i'm out $30...

is this hub any better than the suzue jr.? i jsut stripped out the fixed side of the jr and need a new hub. and this is CHEAP. thanks

Much better... but you might want to take a look at why you stripped your other hub.

Can anyone verify the measurements on these hubs for my spoke calculations? I've heard they are the same measurements as the IRO hubs, but is this true?

I'm going for some cheap wheelset love, and need to order my spokes online.. Don't want to wait until I've already got the hubs to make measurements and order spokes. :)

peace,
sam

from the nashbar site: (this is the front)

use---------------TRACK HUB/SINGLE SPEED MATE
weight------------232 GRAMS
drilling----------32 HOLE
skewer------------NO
spacing-----------100 MM
hub body----------ALUMINIUM
bearings seals----CARTRIDGE
finish------------CLEARCOAT POLISHED
dimension---------72 MM FLANGE
specs for wheelbuild:
flange diameter: 71.5mm
p.c.d: 62mm
o.l.d: 100mm

It should be much better than the suzue SIL-SP's. Don't forget this comes with the lockrings, and if you strip one side, you still have the other fixed side. Also, cartridge bearings, and only like 45 shipped for the hubset.

Damn, thanks dolface! I don't know why I didn't see that on their site when I went looking...

peace,
sam

the link on bikeforums under sponsored links has a coupon for TWENTY percent off $75 or more...

For anyone who as these, can they be respaced to 130mm?

assuming they're the same hubs my girlfriend got with her nashbar fixie wheelset a while back, you're going to have trouble spacing them to 130. i recall there barely being enough axle to get to 126 and still leave enough exposed thread for the track nuts to screw on.

if you can locate a replacement axle, it should be no problem.

also of note, over the course of setting up this bike (which involved taking the wheels on and off maybe 10 or 12 times), i stripped two of the four track nuts.

you might want to pick up some high-quality replacements before you start.

the link on bikeforums under sponsored links has a coupon for TWENTY percent off $75 or more...
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can we get a link or code for that 20% off coupon? i can't see it.

Much better... but you might want to take a look at why you stripped your other hub.

i stripped the basic because the lockring came a bit loose, the cog spun once, and that was it. normally i would assume that it had been my bad on the tightening of the lockring, but in this case i took it to the LBS, which knows a good deal about track bikes, and he cranked it down with the massive Paul tool, so i don't think that was the problem. it was a cheap hub anyways, so i'm not too upset. i'm just going to put the new one on the MA13II's i got with the suzue. I only paid $50 for the suzue rear, shimano front, laced to the MA13II's, so i'm not bothered.

Thanks for the help. Any reccomendations on cogs that work well with these? I don't want to risk using a stamped one. if anyone has one and has had success with dura ace or soma, or what not i'd appreciate the tip.

i think that dura-ace are generally accepted as the best (and eai if you want >16t).

hey does anyone have any newer nashbar cupon numbers?

hey does anyone have any newer nashbar cupon numbers?

10% off: W204 (expires 07/18/05)

this site lists the codes - e deal something blah blah blah (http://www.edealinfo.com/Coupons/nashbar.shtml)

got mine today. buttery smooth!

i'll probably replace the track nuts, though. they don't appear to be the best ever.

Doh, mine didn't come today... :( If they don't come tommorow I'll be mad. I've got tomorrow off, and I've got an itch to build some wheels. I broke a spoke on my 30 year old 27" wheels the other day, and haven't gone to the LBS to buy a replacement because I'm counting on replacing them with these new wheels I'm building. But since I'm riding around one spoke short the rear wheel is so incredibly out of true that its ridiculous. I brought it in enough so that it doesn't rub on the stays, but I'm glad its a fixie, because you couldn't use a brake with a wheel this out of true. It looks crazy too, wobbling all over the place as I ride.

But its ok, babies, the new wheels will be ready soon. ;)

I did get a 1500$ insurance check in the mail today from an accident a few weeks ago, so that softened the blow a bit. ;)

peace,
sam

You still don't have them? I ordered mine the day I posted and got them last Thursday.

well suck, i put in a 200 dollar order but couldn't find any coupons that worked :(

Nashbar orders always take a long time for me.. Maybe its just where I am in relation to their warehouse or something... I ordered mine the day you made the post, only at night, so I effectively ordered one buisness day after you, so I should have got them on Friday, but I didn't, so today was the next choice. Tomorrow is more likely though.

Went ahead and bought a spoke for my wheel at the LBS.. The craptable thing was 1.50$, not including a nipple! Every time I go to that LBS I tell myself that whatever I bought there last time that was outraegously overpriced was a fluke, and that the next thing will be more reasonable. I expect a markup at a brick and mortar store, but a buck fifty for a straight gauge spoke? Man...

peace,
sam

my lbs charged me $0.20 each for straight 14g a few months ago, and he measured for me!

alright, I ordered them and going to give wheelbuilding a shot.

$0.20? Nice. I pay $0.50 and that's at a wheel's worth. It goes up to $0.75 for single (or maybe it $1).

i'm still waiting for mine too... i hope they come tomorrow, i'm sick of riding on a freewheel.

For all you wheel builders out there, it seems the measurements on the website aren't quite right for these hubs!

Here are the correct measurements for you to plug into the spoke calculator of your choice, hot off my digital micrometer.

Nashbar High Flange Track Hub - Front:
Spoke circle diameter (d): 62mm for both sides
Flange width from center (WL and WR): 33mm for both sides
Spoke hole diameter (S): 2.4mm
Hub spacing (OLD): 100mm

Nashbar High Flange Track Hub - Rear:
Spoke circle diameter (d): 62mm for both sides
Flange width from center (WL and WR): 28mm for both sides
Spoke hole diameter (S): 2.4mm
Spacing (OLD): 120mm

The rear hub has 22mm of exposed axle on each side, and the track nut needs 12-14mm for good engagement. That means you could add up to 10mm of stuff. These would be easy to respace to 126mm, and it may be possible to respace to 130mm, if you don't have very fat dropouts. For steel frames its usually better to respace the frame instead of the hub, but for Al, Ti, or C frames you want to respace the hub instead.

The hubs are indeed buttery smooth. :) They have a tiny N logo on them, which I may try to remove with a touch of solvent, but I haven't given it a shot yet...

peace,
sam

Nashbar orders always take a long time for me..

Weird - the longest I have ever waited is 5 days for an order - and that included a weekend. I must be a direct delivery route.

does anyone have the threading of the axles? I am looking to replace the track nuts (and i havent gotten the hubs yet). 10x1mm or 9x1mm or?

thanks

The hubs are indeed buttery smooth. :) They have a tiny N logo on them, which I may try to remove with a touch of solvent, but I haven't given it a shot yet...
Here is my magic tip for removing logos off stuff. I have some 'polishing compound'; available at the auto parts store for like $3 a can. It's slightly more coarse than solid car wax, but there is no sand or pummice in it or anything. Just a quick little polish with that on a rag will take off any printing on anything. It also gives a very nice shine to any old aluminum parts that have oxidized.

Oooo.. Good tip, BostonFixed! I've actually got some polishing compound lying around, so I'll give it a shot!

peace,
sam

Here is my magic tip for removing logos off stuff. I have some 'polishing compound'; available at the auto parts store for like $3 a can. It's slightly more coarse than solid car wax, but there is no sand or pummice in it or anything. Just a quick little polish with that on a rag will take off any printing on anything. It also gives a very nice shine to any old aluminum parts that have oxidized.

FYI: I already tried to remove the little logo, it would seems like it is laser-etched onto the surface or something, and cannot be removed.

Yup... I just tried the polishing compound, and couldn't get it out. It seems to be part of the anodidzed surface or something. Laser etch would make sense.

Damn, and I was gonna stamp NJS and DuraAce on them and resell on ebay. :(

peace,
sam

Any idea how accurate the specs on the Nashbar Single Speed Cassette Hub – Disc are? I've decided to make an off road SS project out of a Tange Novara frame, and that hub (with steel cog freewheel) seems like a good deal at $30, given the reviews above of their other hubs.

Here's Nashbars specs. Anyone have it and have measured it?
flange dia 58mm (L and R)
Flange to center
34mm Right
38mm Left

Also, anyone have pointers on disc mount to fixed conversion? Might make a good flip flop, though fixed off-road seems a little crashy to me.

This is a good article on the disk hub/fixed hub conversion:

http://www.63xc.com/jasom/milldisc.htm

Unfortunately I don't own one of the nashbar SS hubs, so I can't measure it for you. Those measurements seem close though. The only sketchy thing is that I think they might be measuring the ACTUAL flange diameter, instead of the spoke circle diameter (which is annoying, because the spoke circle diameter is what we really need). That was the problem with the track hubs, their measurement was 71.5mm, but the actual spoke circle is 62mm. If that is the case, you'll need to subtract about 9mm from the total flange diameter to get the spoke hole circle diameter.

When in doubt, wait to buy the spokes until after you have the hub and rim in hand, so you can make your own measurements.

peace,
sam

code "SUMSAV" for 20% of $80 purchase. good until 6/26. Really no good excuse not to build some new wheels.

damn, wish i had this two days ago!

Any idea how accurate the specs on the Nashbar Single Speed Cassette Hub – Disc are? I've decided to make an off road SS project out of a Tange Novara frame, and that hub (with steel cog freewheel) seems like a good deal at $30, given the reviews above of their other hubs.

Here's Nashbars specs. Anyone have it and have measured it?
flange dia 58mm (L and R)
Flange to center
34mm Right
38mm Left

Also, anyone have pointers on disc mount to fixed conversion? Might make a good flip flop, though fixed off-road seems a little crashy to me.

I have the Nashbar SS Cassette Hub and just measured it carefully: Nashbar's 58mm number is SPOKE HOLE DIAMETER. Publishing flange outer diameter as a wheelbuilding spec would be pointless anyway.
The flange to center numbers are correct too.

I have the Nashbar SS Cassette Hub and just measured it carefully: Nashbar's 58mm number is SPOKE HOLE DIAMETER. Publishing flange outer diameter as a wheelbuilding spec would be pointless anyway.
The flange to center numbers are correct too.

Yes, publishing flange outer diameter as a wheelbuilding spec IS pointless. The reason it came up though is because thats exactly what they published for the HiFlange track hubs. ;)

However, to be fair, after posting the revised measurments for the track hubs I was contacted by an employee of the company who spends time on this board in a personal capacity who said they'd mention the error to their superiors and try to get it changed.

peace,
sam

I got my front and rear hubs last Thursday or Friday. They are indeed smooth and even kinda pretty. However, one of the flanges of the rear hub was kinda mangled. The flanges have swoopy holes cut in them, and one side looked like someone had fallen asleep at the lathe--the cuts were uneven, the holes too big (one of them almost went through a spoke hole), and they weren't sanded at the edges.

No big, I'm returning it for a replacement, but just thought I'd report back. Very intimidated and excited about my first wheel-build.

("no big"? is it obvious that we've got a Buffy 1st season DVD in the house?)

Ouch! Both of mine are perfectly machined, looking very nice. Sorry to hear about yours... Glad they are returning it. I'm still waiting for my craptacular rims from ebay that I ordered 3 weeks ago... They should be arriving today, but I've said that a few times already. :(

Don't feel scared about your wheel build, feel happy! I recommend printing out the Sheldon Brown directions so you have them right at your side. I get all my parts together, sit down on the couch, and either watch the simpsons or some anime while I build up the wheel.

In your case, you could, like, throw on the Buffy while you, like, ya know, build the wheel and stuff!

peace,
sam

thanks for the boost, phi. I am definitely more excited than intimidated.

well, to their credit, Nashbar is happy to replace it, and since it's defective they'll even pay shipping both ways. Cool by me.

i have four very detailed wheelbuilding instructions to choose from...Sheldon Brown, Lennard Zinn, John Forester, and Helen Garvy. I think I might use a mix of Sheldon and Lennard. it'll be kind of like the first time we slaughtered a chicken...Holly reading the instructions and me getting my hands dirty. Er. Kind of like that.

what kind of craptacular rims, exactly?