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cc_rider

06-28-05, 07:23 AM

Governor Mark Warner of Virginia injured in a bike accident.

http://www.richmond.com/news/output.aspx?Article_ID=3747274&Vertical_ID=23&tier=10&position=2

Not a big injury, but it has been all over the local (DC) news. Warner has been a big promoter of bicycling in Virginia. Now he can be an advocate (poster boy) for bike safety, too. ;)

Cadd

06-28-05, 07:46 AM

Was it:
bike vs bike
bike vs car
bike vs pedestrian
or did he just forget to unclip? :D

Guest

06-28-05, 08:08 AM

For those too lazy to click... ;)

Gov. Warner injured in accident
News:Assisting Citizen Soldiers
Ask the Mayor

Monday, June 27, 2005
Gov. Mark Warner broke two bones in his right hand and sustained other minor injuries after falling off his bike Monday outside of Lexington.

Warner was participating in the 17-mile Bike Virginia Valley Byways Tour, and was injured while riding his bike after the event had completed. He was treated and released from Stonewall Jackson Hospital in Lexington.

Koffee

thelung

06-28-05, 08:25 AM

My paper has a picture of him with his hand taped up and a neck brace on. It says he ate it because he was holding his bottle while approaching a rail road track, and couldnt brake properly. How embarassing.

tippy

06-28-05, 09:51 AM

librarian

06-28-05, 10:12 AM

If you would like to send the Gov. a get well e-mail the address is http://www.governor.virginia.gov/Contact/email_form.html

I said I read about it on bikeforums and thanked him for being an advocate of bicycling.

genec

06-28-05, 10:57 AM

A portion from page 2a of Florida Today ...

"Warner had six miles left " (out of 24 mile ride) "when the accident occurred. Warner lost control as he was approaching a railroad track and holding a water bottle in one hand, leaving him unable to apply pressure evenly to brakes for the front and rear wheels ... Warner apparently squeezed the front brakes too hard, flipping the bike. The governor was wearing a helmet. ..."

d.tipton

Oh jeeze... now some legal blowhard is going to mandate weaker brakes for the front wheels of bikes... or no water bottles or some other "idiot proof" item. How about seatbelts for bikes. :D

Apparently the Governor cannot make decisions based on future possibilities... just like every commuting cyclist must do when faced with intersections. Kinda makes you wonder about far reaching plans presented to said Governor... does he understand action/reaction?

scarry

06-28-05, 11:20 AM

Oh jeeze... now some legal blowhard is going to mandate weaker breaks for the front wheels of bikes... or no water bottles or some other "idiot proof" item. How about seatbelts for bikes. :D

Apparently the Governor cannot make decisions based on future possibilities... just like every commuting cyclist must do when faced with intersections. Kinda makes you wonder about far reaching plans presented to said Governor... does he understand action/reaction?

So far you're the only blowhard to bring it up. You manage to drag some political rant into a story about bicycle safety. :(

genec

06-28-05, 11:31 AM

So far you're the only blowhard to bring it up. You manage to drag some political rant into a story about bicycle safety. :(

Oh right, like there is not a history in this country of mandated seatbelts, helmets and even an attempt to regulate power windows. How many products have idiot labels on them now due to an overzealous legal industry... sheesh.

BTW I am not a legal blowhard...

Also RE "bicycle safety..." how about lack of bicycle sense. What's the safety issue? Don't cross RR tracks with one hand? I wonder how many here don't know that?

Just for the record, you should also try to cross as close to perpendicular as possible too. There, I included a safety message...

But just in case a lawyer is present, I'll include this disclaimer:

This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. List each check separately by bank number. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. No other warranty expressed or implied. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Postage will be paid by addressee. Subject to approval. This is not an offer to sell securities. Apply only to affected area. May be too intense for some viewers. Do not stamp. Use other side for additional listings. For recreational use only. Do not disturb. All models over 18 years of age. If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable parts inside. Freshest if eaten before date on carton. Subject to change without notice. Times approximate. Simulated picture. No postage necessary if mailed in the United States. Breaking seal constitutes acceptance of agreement. For off-road use only. As seen on TV. One size fits all. Many suitcases look alike. Contains a substantial amount of non-tobacco ingredients. Colors may, in time, fade. We have sent the forms which seem to be right for you. Slippery when wet. For office use only. Not affiliated with the American Red Cross. Drop in any mailbox. Edited for television. Keep cool; process promptly. Post office will not deliver without postage. List was current at time of printing. Return to sender, no forwarding order on file, unable to forward. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. At participating locations only. Not the Beatles. Penalty for private use. See label for sequence. Substantial penalty for early withdrawal. Do not write below this line. Falling rock. Lost ticket pays maximum rate. Your cancelled check is your receipt. Add toner. Place stamp here. Avoid contact with skin. Sanitized for your protection. Be sure each item is properly endorsed. Sign here without admitting guilt. Slightly higher west of the Mississippi. Employees and their families are not eligible. Beware of dog. Contestants have been briefed on some questions before the show. Limited time offer, call now to insure prompt delivery. You must be present to win. No passes accepted for this engagement. No purchase necessary. Processed at location stamped in code at top of carton. Shading within a garment may occur. Use only in well-ventilated area. Keep away from fire or flame. Replace with same type. Approved for veterans. Booths for two or more. Check here if tax deductible. Some equipment shown is optional. Price does not include taxes. No Canadian coins. Not recommended for children. Prerecorded for this time zone. Reproduction strictly prohibited. No solicitors. No alcohol, dogs, or horses. No anchovies unless otherwise specified. Restaurant package, not for resale. List at least two alternate dates. First pull up, then pull down. Call toll free before digging. Driver does not carry cash. Some of the trademarks mentioned in this product appear for identification purposes only. Record additional transactions on back of previous stub. Decision of judges is final.

This supersedes all previous notices.

This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. List each check separately by bank number. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. No other warranty expressed or implied. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Postage will be paid by addressee. Subject to CAB approval. This is not an offer to sell securities. Apply only to affected area. May be too intense for some viewers. Do not stamp. Use other side for additional listings. For recreational use only. Do not disturb. All models over 18 years of age. If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable parts inside. Freshest if eaten before date on carton. Subject to change without notice. Times approximate. Simulated picture. No postage necessary if mailed in the United States. Breaking seal constitutes acceptance of agreement. For off-road use only. As seen on TV. One size fits all. Many suitcases look alike. Contains a substantial amount of non-tobacco ingredients. Colors may, in time, fade. We have sent the forms which seem to be right for you. Slippery when wet. For office use only. Not affiliated with the American Red Cross. Drop in any mailbox. Edited for television. Keep cool; process promptly. Post office will not deliver without postage. List was current at time of printing. Return to sender, no forwarding order on file, unable to forward. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. At participating locations only. Not the Beatles.

Linchpin

06-28-05, 11:39 AM

Oh right, like there is not a history in this country of mandated seatbelts, helmets and even an attempt to regulate power windows. How many products have idiot labels on them now due to an overzealous legal industry... sheesh.

BTW I am not a legal blowhard...

Also RE "bicycle safety..." how about lack of bicycle sense. What's the safety issue? Don't cross RR tracks with one hand? I wonder how many here don't know that?

Just for the record, you should also try to cross as close to perpendicular as possible too. There, I included a safety message...

But just in case a lawyer is present, I'll include this disclaimer:

This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. List each check separately by bank number. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. No other warranty expressed or implied. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Postage will be paid by addressee. Subject to approval. This is not an offer to sell securities. Apply only to affected area. May be too intense for some viewers. Do not stamp. Use other side for additional listings. For recreational use only. Do not disturb. All models over 18 years of age. If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable parts inside. Freshest if eaten before date on carton. Subject to change without notice. Times approximate. Simulated picture. No postage necessary if mailed in the United States. Breaking seal constitutes acceptance of agreement. For off-road use only. As seen on TV. One size fits all. Many suitcases look alike. Contains a substantial amount of non-tobacco ingredients. Colors may, in time, fade. We have sent the forms which seem to be right for you. Slippery when wet. For office use only. Not affiliated with the American Red Cross. Drop in any mailbox. Edited for television. Keep cool; process promptly. Post office will not deliver without postage. List was current at time of printing. Return to sender, no forwarding order on file, unable to forward. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. At participating locations only. Not the Beatles. Penalty for private use. See label for sequence. Substantial penalty for early withdrawal. Do not write below this line. Falling rock. Lost ticket pays maximum rate. Your cancelled check is your receipt. Add toner. Place stamp here. Avoid contact with skin. Sanitized for your protection. Be sure each item is properly endorsed. Sign here without admitting guilt. Slightly higher west of the Mississippi. Employees and their families are not eligible. Beware of dog. Contestants have been briefed on some questions before the show. Limited time offer, call now to insure prompt delivery. You must be present to win. No passes accepted for this engagement. No purchase necessary. Processed at location stamped in code at top of carton. Shading within a garment may occur. Use only in well-ventilated area. Keep away from fire or flame. Replace with same type. Approved for veterans. Booths for two or more. Check here if tax deductible. Some equipment shown is optional. Price does not include taxes. No Canadian coins. Not recommended for children. Prerecorded for this time zone. Reproduction strictly prohibited. No solicitors. No alcohol, dogs, or horses. No anchovies unless otherwise specified. Restaurant package, not for resale. List at least two alternate dates. First pull up, then pull down. Call toll free before digging. Driver does not carry cash. Some of the trademarks mentioned in this product appear for identification purposes only. Record additional transactions on back of previous stub. Decision of judges is final.

This supersedes all previous notices.

This product is meant for educational purposes only. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead is purely coincidental. Void where prohibited. Some assembly required. List each check separately by bank number. Batteries not included. Contents may settle during shipment. Use only as directed. No other warranty expressed or implied. Do not use while operating a motor vehicle or heavy equipment. Postage will be paid by addressee. Subject to CAB approval. This is not an offer to sell securities. Apply only to affected area. May be too intense for some viewers. Do not stamp. Use other side for additional listings. For recreational use only. Do not disturb. All models over 18 years of age. If condition persists, consult your physician. No user-serviceable parts inside. Freshest if eaten before date on carton. Subject to change without notice. Times approximate. Simulated picture. No postage necessary if mailed in the United States. Breaking seal constitutes acceptance of agreement. For off-road use only. As seen on TV. One size fits all. Many suitcases look alike. Contains a substantial amount of non-tobacco ingredients. Colors may, in time, fade. We have sent the forms which seem to be right for you. Slippery when wet. For office use only. Not affiliated with the American Red Cross. Drop in any mailbox. Edited for television. Keep cool; process promptly. Post office will not deliver without postage. List was current at time of printing. Return to sender, no forwarding order on file, unable to forward. Not responsible for direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages resulting from any defect, error or failure to perform. At participating locations only. Not the Beatles.

I do believe, that this has been the funniest post I have ever read. I laughed so hard before I got thru the disclaimer that I started farting like a machine gun, a co-worker walked into my office, heard my Thomson Sub Machine sputtering like mad, and ran out, which made me laugh even harder.

Now I'm off to go check my drawers.

scarry

06-28-05, 11:55 AM

I do believe, that this has been the funniest post I have ever read. I laughed so hard before I got thru the disclaimer that I started farting like a machine gun, a co-worker walked into my office, heard my Thomson Sub Machine sputtering like mad, and ran out, which made me laugh even harder.

Now I'm off to go check my drawers.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

scarry

06-28-05, 12:02 PM

genec

06-28-05, 01:09 PM

You forgot one....Failure to properly tighten quick release skewer may result in wheel falling off.
O wait, they made them put them stupid tabs on the end of the forks forcing you to unscrew the skewer to get the wheel off.

But it does sound like you have an axe to grind with the legal profession.

Not any particular axe... just amusement at some of the increadible lengths to which we as a country have taken some of these issues. Guess we just cannot take care of ourselves, and thus must be "mommyed" all the time.

BTW my bikes do not have those tabs... they come right off if you want. :D

I just see the increadible irony in the potential of some lawyer wanting to "improve" on the governor's bike "problem" in some manner in which we all may suffer in the future. Such as "seat belts" on bikes. Such is typical of these sorts of high profile incidents.

webist

06-28-05, 04:58 PM

The one that really irritates me costs me at least 40 minutes before every ride. I have a tag on my top tube which states "read owner's manual before operating." :)

genec

06-28-05, 05:03 PM

The one that really irritates me costs me at least 40 minutes before every ride. I have a tag on my top tube which states "read owner's manual before operating." :)

How about the 5-6 pages of disclaimers at the front of the manual...

I have some appliances at home that have more pages of disclaimer then operating instructions.

atbman

06-30-05, 05:53 PM

All hiking boots shall carry the warning, "Walking off cliffs is injurious to health"

Neither Scully nor Mulder know that the light switch is usually just inside the door and saves you the trouble of wandering thro' strange buildings carrying a torch

75% of UK citizens don't understand percentages, which means that 3/4s of them haven't understood a word I just wrote

Instructions on set of bongos that friend brought back from Mexico "If skin is softened by water, dry skin out by holding against light bulb. Light bulb must be lit, of course"

I'm feeling a little confused and should go to bed as it's 12:50 am

1950s UK govt warning leaflet about what to do if war with USSR broke out. "In the event of a nuclear attack, please switch of gas and electricity, or there may be an explosion". Leaflet withdrawn before issue

If postage stamp does not stick to envelope, try putting on with picture side out

twahl

06-30-05, 09:01 PM

This was in the paper today, I laughed my butt off.

http://www.4wahls.net/images/govbike.jpg

SteveE

06-30-05, 11:21 PM

John Warner = VA Senator
Mark Warner - VA Governor

cc_rider

07-01-05, 07:34 AM

Thanks. Correction noted. I had recently written an angry-gram to Senator Warner and he was still stuck in my head.

Just wait until Warner's Senate seat is up and Warner challenges him for it. :D

CB HI

07-01-05, 03:01 PM

Thanks. Correction noted. I had recently written an angry-gram to Senator Warner and he was still stuck in my head.

Just wait until Warner's Senate seat is up and Warner challenges him for it. :D

That must hurt; having a Senator stuck in your head?

cc_rider

07-01-05, 03:07 PM

I get a lot of things stuck in my head. Got the Black Eyed Peas stuck there right now.
But it doens't hurt a bit...hurt a bit...hurt a bit...

CB HI

07-01-05, 03:18 PM

But it doens't hurt a bit...hurt a bit...hurt a bit...

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Poguemahone

07-01-05, 07:19 PM

Warner has already challenged Warner, and Warner lost, or won, depending on your Warner. Next up: Warner vs. George Allen, either for prez or Allen's senate seat.

cc_rider

07-03-05, 12:32 PM

I know. I still have my "Mark, not John" button. I would like to see Warner take Allen's senate seat. Then we could have Senior Senator Warner and Junior Senator Warner.

That aside, he's been a good promotor of bicycling in the state. I hope the ribbing he's getting over this doesn't take away from seeing the good work that has been done.

dcbikeguy

07-05-05, 02:19 PM

The Gov at least seems to have a sense of humor about the spill. I stumbled upon this letter...

http://www.vacreepertrail.org/warner.html

Any of you guys responsible for those "Camelbak" e-mails?

konageezer

07-05-05, 05:09 PM

How about the 5-6 pages of disclaimers at the front of the manual...

I have some appliances at home that have more pages of disclaimer then operating instructions.
A friend bought one of those little Dremel drill tools. The manual warns that it is not designed for use as a dental implement, for either human or veterinary applications.

Which is, you know… good to know.

va_cyclist

07-05-05, 05:15 PM

The Gov at least seems to have a sense of humor about the spill. I stumbled upon this letter...

http://www.vacreepertrail.org/warner.html

Any of you guys responsible for those "Camelbak" e-mails?

That's way cool. I'm glad I voted for this guy.

linux_author

07-05-05, 07:41 PM

So far you're the only blowhard to bring it up. You manage to drag some political rant into a story about bicycle safety. :(

- not jumping on your case, but the point is well taken with this new rider... i ended up having to remove nearly a half dozen "WARNING" stickers from my new bike... (of course it was a Marin, and coming from the land of fruits and nutz, i don't doubt the stickers could have also been in three different languages)

(goof off works pretty well, btw)...

- some of the inanity revolved around proper torque values, etc... of course, the wrench i bought the bike from had tightened stuff down so much that i nearly broke a knuckle doing adjustments later on..

- sheesh! the stuff on bikes is just as bad as the idiot stickers on the windshield sun flaps inside a 4x4!

(WARNING: Redneck idiot drivers can flip a four-wheel drive vehicle, etc.)

:-)

dmhaero

07-06-05, 06:12 PM

I was on Bike Virginia this year and a 5 year veteran of the tour. Bike Va. is a 5 day, 300+ mile ride through the Blue Ridge Mountains.This year was very hilly with 5000+ ft. of elevation gain each day, century day was 9000 ft. Governor Warner, a self proclaimed "avid cyclist" rode on tour, PART OF ONE DAY, the easiest 17 miles of the ride. He didn't even make it 8 miles before crashing out. Now I know $hit happens, and I have crashed before, but I have no respect for him as a cyclist because the" avid cyclist" didn't even RIDE ONE HILL. Gov. Warner is a joke cyclist, not even a wannabe. Dale.

cc_rider

07-06-05, 06:37 PM

The guy is GOVERNOR of a state. He doesn't have time to take 5 days, or even one day for a bike ride. His job is to promote cycling, not to be a cyclist. I don't pay him to take bike rides. For Bike VA he was at the opening ceremonies, put in a token appearance, and then left to get back to work. That should be more than enough.
At least he rode instead of just making a speech and waving like most politicians at one of these events.

dmhaero

07-06-05, 06:58 PM

First, like most politicians he claims to be something he's not. Second, a friend of mine was a body guard for a former Va. governer and he rode almost daily, so I believe he has time to ride. Warner wasn't even riding his own bike, I assume he owns one, but you would have to prove it to me. Dale.

Poguemahone

07-07-05, 06:06 PM

I've seen the gov riding around RVA. Sometimes facts get in the way of a rant, sorry. Rather have him riding a bit than not at all, and having spent time at the Gen Assembly watching the transportation com., it's nice to know someone (anyone!) in the state government rides, however much it may be.

By your definition, GWB is also a joke cyclist, not even a wannabe-- seeing as he just fell off his bike (again). No one who rides at all is a joke or a wannabe, IMHO.

dmhaero

07-08-05, 07:55 AM

I am glad Gov. Warner rides. I wish every one did. My problem is his claim in a local paper to be a "avid
cyclist ", when in reality he is a guy who rides a bicycle. I don"t think President Bush makes this claim. The fact that Gov. Warner is a cycling advocate is awesome! When I heard he was to join us on Bike Virginia, I was thrilled, but Bike Virginia is always difficult. Cyclist suffer in the Mountains, well Gov. Warner did not join us in that, he took the easy way, until his crash, then he suffered. The running joke on Bike Virginia was "becareful out there, don't pull a Warner". I heard this from cyclist and Bike Va. workers alike. The perception by some of the cyclist I talked to was, he was there for his own political spin, and it bit him on the *****. I hope Mark Warner joins us again on Bike Va., a little more prepared this time, but I doubt he will. I am glad he is our Governer, I voted for him, and I will vote for him again. Dale.