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The Octopus
07-01-05, 08:41 PM
I know there are a million of these threads -- we've read them all! -- but we're all different sizes and shapes using the bike for different things, so here goes:

Captain: 6'1", 34" inseam, 170lbs
Stoker: 5'10", 34" inseam, 130lbs

The idea behind the tandem for us is that it'll allow Mrs. Octopus and me to do longer rides (stuff longer than a century) together more easily and more frequently; our pace is too different for the really long stuff (brevets, namely). On century rides now, Mrs. O will draft me at 18-20 for the whole ride. Might as well be on a tandem, we figure....

As between the two, we're more interested in performance than comfort, but we're not into shaving grams off the bike for the sake of having the lighest ride on the block. (The easiest way to take weight off the bike, we think, is to back off on the ice cream.) That said, we do intend to haul some serious ass on this machine, so something that begs for the extra gas and is solid and stable descending and cornering -- as well as when the team stands to climb or hammers away -- is key.

Today we test rode the Burley Tamburello and a Trek T1000. We both thought the Tamburello was "mushy" and not terribly responsive. We were more impressed with the T1000, which felt like a stiffer ride. Those being the only two tandems we'd been on to date, though, it's tough to tell much. A local shop ought to have a Co-Motion Speedster in during the next day or two, so we're looking forward to trying that out. (Extra bonus points and gold stars if you can recommend an Ohio shop that's big on tandems.)

Oh yeah, on the money issue -- whatever we end up buying is going to last us a while. It's an investment in years of fun rides together. If that's $5K, so be it; if it's $2K, well... that's better. I doubt we'd feel that we were incomplete without the $11K all-carbon Santana, but we welcome any attempts to convince us to drop this kind of cash. Even promise to post pictures if you're successful. :D

So -- fire away with your thoughts, comments, advice, suggestions, etc. And thanks!

zonatandem
07-01-05, 09:18 PM
No such thing as an ALL carbon Santana; the Beyond model utilizes titanium AND carbon tubing.
For all carbon tandem check out Calfee and ariZona Tandems.
Attached ariZona Tandem with S&S fittings @ 30.5 lbs. Lighter yet without S&S.

SDS
07-01-05, 09:18 PM
If you are serious century/brevet riders, you should consider a custom frameset. Look at the "Test Ride Suggestions" and "5'10" Stoker With Long Arms and Burley Tandems" threads.

TandemGeek
07-01-05, 09:54 PM
Today we test rode the Burley Tamburello and a Trek T1000. We both thought the Tamburello was "mushy" and not terribly responsive. We were more impressed with the T1000, which felt like a stiffer ride. Those being the only two tandems we'd been on to date, though, it's tough to tell much. A local shop ought to have a Co-Motion Speedster in during the next day or two, so we're looking forward to trying that out. (Extra bonus points and gold stars if you can recommend an Ohio shop that's big on tandems.) Oh yeah, on the money issue -- whatever we end up buying is going to last us a while.

For tandem shops in Ohio, start with http://www.hubbub.com/ and check the links out at the Greater Ohio Area Tandem Society's (GOATS) Website: http://www.GOATSBicycling.org/default.aspx. You might also drop a note to their Webmaster (Email link on site) or their club president (Email links in newsletter) and see if they have any other hot tips.

Let us know how the Speedster test ride goes and if you can find one, try a Co-Motion Roadster or Robusta. A Cannondale RT1000 (or prior year RT3000 model) would also be a recommendation for your first tandem. Also keep in mind that the more test riding you do the better your tandem riding skills will become so first impressions from early test rides may not be fully representative of how those tandems might feel during a subsequent test ride.

As you start to figure out what you think would work well consider checking the classifieds for a secondhand model, ie., www.tandemmag.com/classified. I probably sound like a broken record but my belief is a first tandem is best looked at like what you ride while you figure out if tandeming is something you'll enjoy and to figure out what you like and don't like about your first tandem. With that knowledge and perhaps some discussions with other tandem teams you can use your experience to help guide you on the purchase of your next and most likely long-term tandem acquisition.

SRidge
07-14-05, 05:45 PM
Since you aren't against spending some cash. Fanklin Frames will build one to fit YOUR TEAM. Most of the bigger shops and some of the smaller ones can probably hook you up. Ours rides nice,handles well and is solid. As for speed,we have had ours to 57 mph and it was stable. No twitchiness, no mushiness, it does whatever we ask and does it well. They're an Ohio co. Being a buckeye that should apeal to you, it did me. But best of all, I've only seen one other, ever. And yet it's like having a Ferrari. Everyone notices it, and those in the know are usually impressed. Whatever you buy, you'll be glad you did.

mtbcyclist
07-14-05, 07:17 PM
Take a look at the Burley Rivazza. That is what I have ordered (with a carbon fork option) and will pick up on Saturday.... thats right Saturday. The wait is over. I'll post pics and a write up after the wife and I get a few mile on her. I will warn you that no matter what they say you will wait at least 2 months. I ordered mine May 4 and it got to the shop last Thursday. Good luck!

Buckeye
07-15-05, 09:10 AM
Hi. Check out Century Cycles in Medina. CC has several shops in the Northeast Ohio area but the one in Medina is "tandem headquarters." That is where we bought our Santana Arriva and they also carry Burley. They are very knowledgeable, easy to work with, and just all around great people. They will let you test ride as often as you need. There is also a shop in Hartville, OH that specializes in Co-Motion. They are pretty good. Orrville Cyclery in Orrville, OH carries Trek and Co-Motion. Also very good people and knowledgeable.
We really like our Santana but like we all say, try out a few different ones and take the one you like the best!