BMX - Worst Bike Brand

What Do You Guys Think Is The Worst Bike Brand?

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2hip

did you just respond to your own thread?

btw. i think a next or vertical is worse than those /\

2hip

Please. 2-Hip might not be the best company, but they're far from the worst, especially with Wilkerson at the helm. He's most definitely in it for the sport, unlike the people in charge of Poverty, or - even worse - the department store bike companies.

Pacific by far, and any biek company owned by pacific...

Mongoose.....

huffy is pretty bad too though

Pacific by far, and any biek company owned by pacific...

That's an ignorant response. Unless you'd be happy paying a lot more for your current bike. Possibly with crappier components.

uhhh, id say "Magna"..........or maybe Pacific, but they actually have a BMX bike that would last more that 2 hours...(my cheap friend has one) but Magna bikes....wow...it would probly only take like 30 minutes to snap that frame.

uhhh, id say "Magna"..........or maybe Pacific, but they actually have a BMX bike that would last more that 2 hours...(my cheap friend has one) but Magna bikes....wow...it would probly only take like 30 minutes to snap that frame.

Pacific is not a brand. They own the individual brands. If they were not responsible for the distribution of more bikes in the US than any other company, there's a very good chance we would all be paying more for our bikes and related gear. Their buying power has lowered prices as higher production volume generally results in lower production costs. They're also willing to take a lower margin (profit) per unit as they make it up by selling more bikes. So much as we may hate certain brands they own, they have helped us by making cycling more affordable across the board.

*This is all just a generalization, but the fact remains that they're good for the sport.

From what I've seen, Magna and Next bicycles truly frighten me. It's sad when I can't find any redeeming qualities at all.

Pacific is not a brand. They own the individual brands. If they were not responsible for the distribution of more bikes in the US than any other company, there's a very good chance we would all be paying more for our bikes and related gear. Their buying power has lowered prices as higher production volume generally results in lower production costs. They're also willing to take a lower margin (profit) per unit as they make it up by selling more bikes. So much as we may hate certain brands they own, they have helped us by making cycling more affordable across the board.

*This is all just a generalization, but the fact remains that they're good for the sport.
wow. i need a better education. this didnt make sense...except for the first sentance...

wow. i need a better education. this didnt make sense...except for the first sentance...

Economics primer for kids:

*Pacific is not a brand. They own the individual brands. If they were not responsible for the distribution of more bikes in the US than any other company, there's a very good chance we would all be paying more for our bikes and related gear. Their buying power has lowered prices as higher production volume generally results in lower production costs. You'll get a much better unit price (per part) if you order 100,000 than if you order 1,000. They're also willing to take a lower margin (profit) per unit as they make it up by selling more bikes. Which would you prefer: Sell 10,000 bikes/year, and make $20 profit on each one, or sell 500,000 bikes each year, and make $5 profit on each one? So much as we may hate certain brands they own, they have helped us by making cycling more affordable across the board. With all the rims, grips, hubs, chains, etc., they buy each year in the form of complete bikes, the prices for producing them get lower. That (hopefully) gets passed on to all of us.

[edit] I made those figures up to keep the math simple. I have no idea what they make on a bike.

Quoted from their website:

[Note that the comments in red are my own sarcastic work]

Pacific Cycle, Inc., a standalone division of Dorel Industries Ltd., is one of the fastest growing branded consumer product companies in the United States. Pacific is a leader in designing, marketing and distributing high quality (questionable, in some cases) branded bicycles and other recreational products. The company markets products under a range of brands including Schwinn, Mongoose, GT, Roadmaster, Pacific, Dyno, InSTEP, Pacific Outdoors and Murray. Pacific has achieved its success by combining its powerful brand portfolio with low cost Far East (China, Taiwan) sourcing, efficient supply chain management (They only order what they need, meaning more bikes at Xmas, less at other times) and multi-channel retail distribution (This would include the stores listed below for their low-end brand models). Distribution channels include leading mass-market retailers such as Wal-Mart, Target and Toys "R" Us, sporting goods chains such as Dick's, The Sports Authority and Gart Sports and independent bicycle dealers (IBD) that serve the local market.

*I do stand corrected in that Pacific is both a company and a brand. Schwinn, Mongoose and GT are still viable brand names, once you get over a certain pricepoint. (Translation: their cheap bikes are crap, but their expensive stuff is worth a 2nd look).

hmmm ok, im getting it...


doesnt Pacific own Schwinn or Vise versa?

doesn't Pacific own Schwinn

Yes.

Pacific is not a brand.
Then how can you explain my bike in the basement with the name "PACIFIC" all over it? :D

Pacific has its own individual brand. My friend has a Pacific Banshee BMX bike, and I used to have a Pacific MTN Bike.

2hip


coming from a kid that rides a haro

What Do You Guys Think Is The Worst Bike Brand?

Harley Davidson - Way too noisy!

isnt mcdonalds comeing out with a line of bikes?

Then how can you explain my bike in the basement with the name "PACIFIC" all over it? :D

Easy. Find the longest post on this page, and read all the way through it.

isnt mcdonalds comeing out with a line of bikes?

I think it'd be kinda hard to fit it into a happy meal.

Hey fireteamcharlie, fix your sig.

Heres my explaination of the worst bike brand after the big downhill race I was just in. It was a 20 man race down a 2 mile downhill stretch of road. The participation bikes were, a Road Bike, My DK, 8 Haros, 2 Nerves, 3 Lower end Mongooses, 1 Mongoose Pro, a PACIFIC,2 Pre Pacific GTs, 1 POst Pacific GT.

The road bike's front tire fell off resulting in a 2 bike collision with a mongosse pro, My friend got first(Nerve) I came Second on my DK(from the rear), Haro, Pre Pacific GT, Lower end Mongoose, Pre Pacific Gt, post Pacific GT, Haro,Haro,Haro,Haro,Pacific,Nerve, Haro, LE Mongoose, LE Mongoose, Haro, Haro

From those results I would come to the Conclusion Post Pacific GT Sucks. But from Personal Experience, LOWER END BIKES SUCK.

You can't say a bike sucks because of a race.

Too bad the road bike's tire 'fell off' (this one's got me pretty confused). A decent rider on a decent road bike should have *spanked* all of you. More aero position, lower rolling resistance due to skinnier tires, longer gear ratios (53/11 on 175mm cranks and 700c wheels = 127 gear inches...the equivalent of running 54/8 gearing on a BMX bike).

I get BMXers or mountain bikers that try to keep up with me on my road bike once in a while...they'll usually last about 100 yards or so an run out of gas...sooner if I decide to get up out of the saddle and start sprinting. ;)

Yes I can foo.. I can say my low end Mongosse held me back in races. I can say Haro is overhyped and not as good as it is played out to be.

Edit: Nah I've seen a BMXer stay next to a road bike. He stayed next to the road bike for about 500 yards, and both were pedaling hard, After that my friend fell over in exhaustion. I would say, I am glad the road bikes tire fell off, even though some injury had occured, it would've been a ***** staying up to it, but my Odyssey Hazard lites, are some of the fastest rolling rims I've ever had( but far from the fastest that exist), Also I have developed a technique that gives me more aerodynics than a road bike I lay down ontop of the bike. Also I rode a road bike, most uncomfortable contraptionever devised, I'll stick to my BMX bike.

Edit: Nah I've seen a BMXer stay next to a road bike. He stayed next to the road bike for about 500 yards, and both were pedaling hard, After that my friend fell over in exhaustion.

I can keep up with the old fat guys on upright road bikes with my *flatland* bike. It depends on who's riding it. Riders being equal, a BMX bike is no more likely to keep up with a road bike on the road than a road bike is likely to start hucking tailwhips over a 6' spine.


I would say, I am glad the road bikes tire fell off, even though some injury had occured, it would've been a ***** staying up to it, but my Odyssey Hazard lites, are some of the fastest rolling rims I've ever had( but far from the fastest that exist)

You should try some $3000 Zipp wheels for a comparison. Nothing in the BMX world comes close. :D


Also I have developed a technique that gives me more aerodynics than a road bike I lay down ontop of the bike. Also I rode a road bike, most uncomfortable contraptionever devised, I'll stick to my BMX bike.

If the guys in the Tour and their wind tunnel experts knew about this, maybe they could stop wearing those ridiculous TT helmets. :lol:

I still haven't figured out turning while laying on my bike, but when I do I'll film it and post it on the internet. BTW, spending $3000 on a set of wheels to me is as desirable as putting a bullet through my head. For $3000 you can buy yourself a cheap car, and go faster then Lance Armstrong..

3k is a whole lot of money for a wheelset.

um worst brand, id have to say
1.next
2.vertical
3.magna
4.mongoose

Yes I can foo.. I can say my low end Mongosse held me back in races. I can say Haro is overhyped and not as good as it is played out to be.

Edit: Nah I've seen a BMXer stay next to a road bike. He stayed next to the road bike for about 500 yards, and both were pedaling hard, After that my friend fell over in exhaustion. I would say, I am glad the road bikes tire fell off, even though some injury had occured, it would've been a ***** staying up to it, but my Odyssey Hazard lites, are some of the fastest rolling rims I've ever had( but far from the fastest that exist), Also I have developed a technique that gives me more aerodynics than a road bike I lay down ontop of the bike. Also I rode a road bike, most uncomfortable contraptionever devised, I'll stick to my BMX bike.


[sigh] Where to begin? You will never be more aerodynamic than a road bike. Haro is not "Overhyped". The top BMX racers in the world would be hard pressed to keep up with a reasonably fit cyclist on a road bike for more than a couple hundred metres, tops. I'm not going to bother with the rest. You're 14 and prone to exaggeration. We understand.

uhhh, id say "Magna"..........or maybe Pacific, but they actually have a BMX bike that would last more that 2 hours...(my cheap friend has one) but Magna bikes....wow...it would probly only take like 30 minutes to snap that frame.




Magna isn't a good bike Period.

You say, Haro is not overhyped, because you ride one. Haros are good bikes but they're overhyped. Also, I do over exaggerate, but thats because of my dream, To beat a roadbike in a downhill race, and then take that roadbike, ride it over jumps. Muhahahahaha EVIL BMX EMPIRE!!!

Volume.

Volumes are nice bikes..i dunno what you are talking about...just because you had a bad experience with a particular bike doesn't mean the whole company sucks

well, i ride a haro, and they are overhyped. they are overhyped becasue all the pros use them. i am not saying they arent good bikes, becasue they are.

random thought: bmx companies should do the same thing mtb companies do, use components from all different companies. rather then when you buy a haro everything on it says haro.

Volumes are nice bikes..i dunno what you are talking about...just because you had a bad experience with a particular bike doesn't mean the whole company sucks

You're wrong, I've never owned a Volume.

Ok, for you guys that think Haro or any other company is overhyped, they'll just have to come up with a new marketing campaign.

They'll have some kid that looks like Milhouse from The Simpons, and he'll be saying "Buy a Haro. Um, that is if you want to. Ok?".


Better?

:) that is not what i am saying i am saying the people that ride say oh dave mirra has this bike. and they think they are all great even when they cant drop in to a half pipe. it has nothing to do with marketing

Also, I do over exaggerate, but thats because of my dream, To beat a roadbike in a downhill race, and then take that roadbike, ride it over jumps.

Your dream sucks.

:) that is not what i am saying i am saying the people that ride say oh dave mirra has this bike. and they think they are all great even when they cant drop in to a half pipe. it has nothing to do with marketing



You can drop in to a halfpipe?

You can drop in to a halfpipe?

well i have never had the oppertunity to try it, i used to be able to ride quarter pipes when i was doing all that park stuff. haven't tried it in a while.

but that is the basics of what mr.mirra does.

I was scared to drop into a 12ft halfpipe in new jersey.

i would deffinatly try it a couple times. i saw some kid doing pretty good on a real big pipe at the warped tour, would have liked to try it but there was no way they were letting me up there.

dynos suck

Yeah I bought a Pacific just to mess around with and within 10 min. I broke the headset from one jump. Also my friend had one of thier mt. bikes and from jumping twice on it i bent the gussets into the frame and the seat was hitting the rear tire.

Yeah I bought a Pacific just to mess around with and within 10 min. I broke the headset from one jump. Also my friend had one of thier mt. bikes and from jumping twice on it i bent the gussets into the frame and the seat was hitting the rear tire.

Money well spent, there. Might as well have been freebasing $20s.

Yeah I bought a Pacific just to mess around with and within 10 min. I broke the headset from one jump. Also my friend had one of thier mt. bikes and from jumping twice on it i bent the gussets into the frame and the seat was hitting the rear tire.

"And one time, I couldn't find a hammer, so I used an orange in a sock. Didn't work well though."

Let's all keep in mind the importance of using the right tool for the job. You bought a Pacific to teach yourself a lesson. Would you buy a beach cruiser to race downhill? I can't figure out how a seat can hit a rear tire though.

Thats a good line LMAO. I almost fell out of ym chair laughing.