Mountain Biking - Lx Build kit from Pricepoint a good deal?

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adelii
07-13-05, 12:52 PM
Well i just bought a 04 jamis dakar xlt frame, i need to build it up and i ran across this built kit in pricepoint.com. Will this setup be good for just normal xc riding? I go to about 5 different trails. All of them very different.

Option : Avid Speed Dial 7 Levers

Cassette : Shimano LX Mega-9 HG70 Cassette

Chain : Shimano LX 9-Speed Chain HG73

Crank : Shimano LX M572 Crankset

Rear Derailleur : Shimano LX Mega-9 Rear Derailleur SGS M570

Disc Brake : Avid Mechanical BB7 Ball Bearing Disc Brake 160mm

Disc Brake : Avid Mechanical BB7 Ball Bearing Disc Brake 160mm

Grips : Oury ATB Grips

Handlebar : Sette XLR Low Riser Handlebar

Headset : Dia Compe Aheadset AL

Saddle : Sette IXA Gel Chromoly Rail Saddle

Shifters : Shimano LX Mega-9 Shifter Pods SL M570 Black/Silver

Rim Tape : Velox Cloth Rim Tape

Tubes : IRC Tube

Wheelset : Shimano Deore Disc Wheelset w/ Sun Rhyno Lite Rims


C Law
07-13-05, 12:56 PM
yeah, that will work.

How much?

adelii
07-13-05, 01:17 PM
$570, and no hassle of getting things one by one.


LowCel
07-13-05, 01:26 PM
Looks like a pretty nice build. Don't forget to order a front derailleur and bottom bracket though, doesn't look like they are included with the kit (not listed anyway).

LowCel
07-13-05, 01:29 PM
Hmmm, for some reason the bottom bracket and front derailleur are pictured though, may want to ask them when you place the order.

adelii
07-13-05, 01:33 PM
FD is LX and BB is LX also.

LowCel
07-13-05, 01:35 PM
Cool, as soon as you figure out your fork you are going to have a pretty nice bike. I can't wait to read a write-up after the first ride.

joelsp
07-13-05, 10:41 PM
Thats a great deal for that package, Maybe I will look into something like that....

Raiyn
07-13-05, 10:58 PM
That's a fine build kit. :D

adelii
07-14-05, 07:15 AM
wow, i think im going to cry, i finally got acceptance from raiyn. So now the question is, what fork? the rear shock has spv damping, should i be looking for this damping on the front fork?

adelii
07-14-05, 08:41 AM
Will all the parts fit on my frame? On the site it gives me 3 options for bottom bracket
1. 68X121mm
2. 73X121mm
3. 72x126mm
On jamis site it says the BB is 68X 113mm. Whats the deal?

For the front derailleur I have no Idea, I know its top pull but i dont know the measurment. Pricepoint gives me 3 options:
1.1 and 1/8
2.1 and 1/4
3.1 and 3/8

jamis site says 31.8mm conventional clamp/top pull front. What to do?

stem is 120mm.

seatpost is 27.2mm

should i go for 2.1 tires or 1.95?

anything else i should look for before i buy this kit?

adelii
07-14-05, 08:45 AM
LX(M570 Black/Silver) TEAM DISC BUILD KIT
Rear Derailleur: LX M570 SGS
Bar: Sette XLR 3/4" Riser
Front Derailleur: LX M570
Stem: Sette Venn
Headset: Dia Compe AL
Seatpost: Sette APX Alloy
Bottom Bracket: LX M572
Saddle: Sette IXA Gel Chromoly
Crankset: LX ES-51
Grips: Oury Atb
Disc Brakes: Avid Mechanical 160mm
Tires: Irc Mythos XC Racing
Shifter Pods: LX M570
Tubes: Irc Rubber
Brake Levers: LX M570
Rim Strips: Velox Cloth
Cassette: LX HG70
Rims: Sun Rhyno Lite
Hubset: Deore M525 Disc
Spoke Guage: 14
Chain: LX HG73 Spoke
Nipples: Brass

my frame is 17 inches.

LowCel
07-14-05, 01:30 PM
I would go with 2.1" tires.

For the front derailleur 31.8 mm converts to 1.25 inches. I believe conventional swing is top swing but I'm not going to swear to that one.

As for the bottom bracket that usually has to do with the crankset as much as the frame. Talk to pricepoint about it, I believe you will go with the 68x121 though.

adelii
08-04-05, 01:57 PM
I finally bought the kit! Im so anxious! I cant wait. How much will the LBS charge me to build the setup? How much are they suppose to charge?

Raiyn
08-04-05, 05:52 PM
I finally bought the kit! Im so anxious! I cant wait. How much will the LBS charge me to build the setup? How much are they suppose to charge?
I have no clue as to the rates in your area. It will probably be close to a overhaul without the bearing treatment

willtsmith_nwi
08-04-05, 10:29 PM
I finally bought the kit! Im so anxious! I cant wait. How much will the LBS charge me to build the setup? How much are they suppose to charge?

You bought a kit and you don't know how to put a bike together????

While you were at Pricepoint, you should have bought one of those cheapo LIFU toolkits so you'd have the tools.

If you have any buddies who can put bikes together, I would suggest working with them so you get some of the "experience".

You could have gotten some nicer pre-built bike for the $$$ you put into the build kit + frame + assembly. This is like buying a model and then paying someone else to put it together for you.

adelii
08-05-05, 07:14 AM
My father can put it together, he has all the tools in the world, im just not sure he has the special tools to put someparts together. I bought the build kit and actually saved money. Frame + Bulid Kit + fork are $1,000, not many dual suspension bikes for 1,000 bucks. If there are they dont have lx components.

darkmother
08-05-05, 07:27 AM
Build it yourself. It's not all that difficult, and you can always post here for help. Use a fraction of the money you would have to spend to get a shop to build it to buy some tools. The experience you gain will save you time and money in the future. Enjoy your new ride.

adelii
08-05-05, 07:39 AM
Thats not a bad idea, i just dont want to mess anything up. How much money does it cost for a mech to build the bike? That way i know how many tools i can afford. What special tools are needed? The fork to the frame is tricky without the tool right? Its hard to work on something that costs 1,000 of your hard earned money, especially if you havent done it before.

Original 6
08-05-05, 08:36 AM
I'm not sure what it will cost to have the work done. I do all my work myself. I have a suggestion. Take the frame, fork, headset, stem, and BB to a bike shop and have them install these parts. The rest of the parts are fairly simple. Get a book and some tools. There are plenty of books to choose from, I have this one; "Zinn & the Art of Mountain Bike Maintenance" by Lennard Zinn (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1884737994/102-8740388-5322519?v=glance). If you have trouble with the derailleurs take it back to the shop for the final adjustments.

Juniper
08-05-05, 09:56 AM
I'm not sure what it will cost to have the work done. I do all my work myself. I have a suggestion. Take the frame, fork, headset, stem, and BB to a bike shop and have them install these parts. The rest of the parts are fairly simple. Get a book and some tools. There are plenty of books to choose from, I have this one; "Zinn & the Art of Mountain Bike Maintenance" by Lennard Zinn (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1884737994/102-8740388-5322519?v=glance). If you have trouble with the derailleurs take it back to the shop for the final adjustments.


That is EXACTLY what I was about to say. Thanks for saving me the time!! :D Good advice.

adelii
08-05-05, 10:46 AM
So does anyone know how much that would cost???

Curtis_Elwood
08-05-05, 11:49 AM
So does anyone know how much that would cost???

Just call the bike shop yourself. How do we know what your local shop charges? Pick up the phone.

adelii
08-05-05, 12:06 PM
wow sorry

Curtis_Elwood
08-05-05, 12:10 PM
No reason to apologize. IMHO it's just more efficient and accurate for you to check yourself. When you find out what your shop charges, post back here and I'm sure the good folks here will tell you if it's reasonable. Good luck with the new ride.

Juniper
08-05-05, 01:16 PM
So does anyone know how much that would cost???

I'd check with an LBS that I trusted. Tell them you want a price on the work as described by Original 6, above (headset, fork, bottom bracket, ....). If you just want the bike built they could do it all but it would be great experience to take it from there and finish off the rest of the work (you will begin to know your bike intimately and be ready for future adjustments that will need to be made.). :D

koine2002
08-05-05, 01:37 PM
My father can put it together, he has all the tools in the world, im just not sure he has the special tools to put someparts together. I bought the build kit and actually saved money. Frame + Bulid Kit + fork are $1,000, not many dual suspension bikes for 1,000 bucks. If there are they dont have lx components.

You don't need a lot of those specialty tools. Those tools generally make the job easier, but most of the job can be done with standard workshop tools. For example, you can make a headset press out of two blocks of wood, a long carriage bolt and a nut on the other end. The only thing would be the spoke wrenches to build the wheel. Also, you can to to
The Bike Website (http://www.bikewebsite.com) for more help on working on a bike.

willtsmith_nwi
08-06-05, 10:31 AM
My father can put it together, he has all the tools in the world, im just not sure he has the special tools to put someparts together. I bought the build kit and actually saved money. Frame + Bulid Kit + fork are $1,000, not many dual suspension bikes for 1,000 bucks. If there are they dont have lx components.

Well that depends on the frame. If you bought the frame new, I will GUARANTEE you that you would have gotten a better bike new.

But that is all behind you. You have a bike to build now.

Now what does "all the tools in the world" mean. Because if they are the variety that Craftsman makes, you will be able to use a set of hex wrenches, cable cutters and maybe a rubber mallet.

Everything else requires a "special tool". Or as we call it here "bike tools".

Tools you will need to assemble.

* Splined cassette lockring tool.
* Splined bottom bracket tool.
* Pedal wrench (your wrenches aren't narrow enough to get in there).
* Chain tool.
* Tire levers
* Hex keys.
* Rubber mallet.

If you want to do any maintenance on the the crank you should have :
* Crank Puller
* Chain Nut Wrench

To service the hubs you will need cone wrenches.

If you have disc brakes you will need a Torx 25 driver.


If you're an "occasional mechanic" and want to save some more money, I suggest you go back to pricepoint and buy this:

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/11912-325_LIFTL1-2-Accessories-42-Tools/Lifu-Prontool-Kit-.htm
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/11912-325_LIFTL1-2-Accessories-42-Tools/Lifu-Prontool-Kit-.htm

These are not "shop quality" tools. They are for occasional wrenching. The only "bad" tool is the spoke wrench. But everything you need to assemble the bike (besides the headset press and fork cutting guide (you will have the bike shop do this)) is in there.

adelii
08-06-05, 11:09 AM
My dad has all of this, should be fun.