Stage 17: Pau - Revel [Archive]

my58vw

07-17-05, 10:37 PM

Looks like a bed of nails... hmmm...

Not a flat stage but it could be the day of the breakaway again. I can see lots of ST's for the stage.

meb

07-18-05, 12:08 AM

Looks like a bed of nails... hmmm...

Not a flat stage but it could be the day of the breakaway again. I can see lots of ST's for the stage.

Looks like MCEWEN.

Dolomiti

07-18-05, 07:20 AM

I wonder how difficult those hills really will be. Maybe everything could blow apart, if it is also very windy.
McEwen? My guess is no. He will probably get dropped if the pace is high enough (if not, he won't have the legs anyway), and if the pace is low, a break will win.

240 kilometers. Ouch. Is this the longest stage?

TrekDen

07-19-05, 07:15 PM

I think there are two Cat 4's, and two Cat 3's in those mountains, but not a whole lot of elevation change. Just a bunch of 1.5 - 2.5 kilo climbs, but man that's alot in 240 Kilo's. Looks like there are over 20 of them suckers to go up, and down.
Now that I had a chance to look
Km 22.5 - Côte de Baleix - 1.6 km climb to 7.1 % - 3 Category
Km 88.5 - Côte de Betbèze - 2.2 km climb to 6.4 % - 4 Category
Km 159.5 - Côte de Capens - 1.8 km climb to 4.9 % - 4 Category
Km 232.5 - Côte de Saint-Ferréol - 2.7 km climb to 5.1 % - 3 Category

maalea

07-19-05, 09:36 PM

Just enough elevation so it wont be a pure sprinters stage, So I'll go with Stewie. O'Grady's shown to have a bit more climbing legs than the other sprinters.

Smoothie104

07-19-05, 10:28 PM

Why is Vinokurov not wearing Pink like the rest of the T Mobile's?

Seriously, it looks like a downhill run to the Finish. Robbie was Clocked at 47mph on the flat the day they came around Horner and Chavenel... He said he was going to let Freddie Rod. cross the line first, but he had to keep going becuase Stewey was there. Rodriguez came a quarter wheel from a TdF Stage win....

Maybe Thor can throw down and get a stage win, but I think Lotto and CA etc may be too tired to chase, so I'm thinking a big break goes clear, 10 or more guys, that always makes for a good finish, with all the attacks and counters in the last couple of k's...

skinnyone

07-19-05, 11:55 PM

Mcewen...

TrekDen

07-20-05, 05:28 AM

(07-19) 11:01 PDT PAU, France (AP) --

Andreas Kloeden, last year's Tour de France runner-up, may withdraw from the race after fracturing his right hand during Tuesday's 16th stage.

Kloeden, a member of Jan Ullrich's T-Mobile team, fell at the start of the 112.2-mile trek to Pau.

T-Mobile spokesman Luuc Eisenga said Kloeden had X-rays at the Pau hospital after the stage, and the team will wait until Wednesday morning to decide whether the German rider will continue.

Kloeden, who finished 61st on Tuesday, is in 11th place — 12 minutes, 1 second behind six-time champion and overall leader Lance Armstrong.

fixiechick

07-20-05, 05:32 AM

He got in the team car a little after the start of today's stage. Bye Bye Klodi, looks like Ulle has lost his sidekick.

va_cyclist

07-20-05, 05:53 AM

That's too bad. It seemed like he was riding well.

TrekDen

07-20-05, 05:55 AM

Yep, I guess I would have seen it had I been reading my live updates.
Thanks for the update Fixie.

Den

darrencope

07-20-05, 07:08 AM

Savoldelli! (How cool would that be?)

Crack'n'fail

07-20-05, 07:14 AM

I doubt it would happen, but that would be awesome for Salvodelli to get it. To win the Giro and a stage in the Tour, that would be a heck of a season, eh?

darrencope

07-20-05, 07:56 AM

I doubt it would happen, but that would be awesome for Salvodelli to get it. To win the Giro and a stage in the Tour, that would be a heck of a season, eh?

Yes, I agree it's unlikely, but it would be a great season for Salvodelli, and a great tour for the whole Disco team.

Smoothie104

07-20-05, 08:03 AM

told ya it'd be a big break, Is that Dumoulin in there? He is a sprinter, and has a team mate.

Dekker is Dangerous and will probably attack in the final 10K's My guess is that Neither of the Disco's will figure in this one, but I hope Im wrong...

doctorSpoc

07-20-05, 08:52 AM

Holly Crap.. Sevillia is going to move into the top ten... probably 6th or 7th from 25th!!! depending on how the peleton reacts.. but only 20k to go

Laggard

07-20-05, 08:53 AM

I'm going with Hinault or Arvesen. Hinault's my final pick.

doctorSpoc

07-20-05, 09:01 AM

Holly Crap.. Sevillia is going to move into the top ten... probably 6th or 7th from 25th!!! depending on how the peleton reacts.. but only 20k to go

doh, can't subract... he should make it into 11-12th

^*^BATMAN^*^

07-20-05, 09:03 AM

The stage is now being led by Paolo Savoldelli of the Discovery Channel team. He has been joined by Hinault on the final climb of the stage.

sambusik

07-20-05, 09:13 AM

What a great finish by Savoldelli!!

^*^BATMAN^*^

07-20-05, 09:13 AM

Paolo Savoldelli has won the stage in fine style! He raced into the lead in the final 100m. He is the second Discovery Channel rider to win a stage of the 2005 Tour de France.

SunSwingsLow

07-20-05, 09:13 AM

Paolo!!

^*^BATMAN^*^

07-20-05, 09:14 AM

I gotta some how convince my boss to get us cable TV at work so I can watch the tour here, now I will have to stay up late to see the finish, sounded good from teh updates, lots of attacks in the last few kms.

SunSwingsLow

07-20-05, 09:16 AM

That was an awesome finish. Paolo is something special. I loved how he kept screaming at Hinault to take some pulls.

Great day for Team Disco...as they may have the overall team lead as well now. T-Mob has made so many tactical mistakes this year. They really look severly disorganised.

Allen H

07-20-05, 09:19 AM

Great finish by Paolo.

What a Tour for Discovery - 2 stage wins, the yellow, the whiite, and the TTT, and now (unless T-Mobile got within 19 minutes of the breakaway), the team competition, too.

SunSwingsLow

07-20-05, 09:23 AM

Team Disco is showing some serious muscle this Tour.

:)

Dolomiti

07-20-05, 09:33 AM

Armstrong pushing hard to increase the gap on Landis... hahahahaha

Bauerthis

07-20-05, 09:35 AM

Disco Disco Disco!!!

hi565

07-20-05, 09:52 AM

Paolo!!!!!!! hes the mang!!!!!!!!

Disco is dong a great job this tour...

jlin453

07-20-05, 09:55 AM

:lol:

Armstrong, the pressure eased since he emerged from this Tour's last day in the high mountains on Tuesday with his comfortable lead intact, hammed it up Wednesday for TV viewers.

"George, George," he shouted to his teammate Hincapie, urging him to speak to the cameras.

"I'm working, I can't speak," Hincapie said as he pedaled.

cedo

07-20-05, 10:03 AM

Vino's incessant aggressiveness moved him up two spots on the GC.

Guest

07-20-05, 10:32 AM

Dolomiti

07-20-05, 10:36 AM

What I can't believe is that OLN, knowing this is the longest stage, slotted only 3 hours. I just finished watching my damn tivo, and the final descent to the finish is cut off! So I flip over to tv, and tivo didn't get the last 30 minutes of the tv coverage either! So I have no ending to stage 17 whatsoever, just when it was getting interesting. What a bunch of gnits! Dammit!

Doesn't OLN have the same ending time for each stage, and just extends if it happens to go past that time?
Don't go by the OLN schedule... the Tour's official site has all of the expected arrival times.

Guest

07-20-05, 10:40 AM

It didn't extend this time. I made a point of checking the OLN schedules every day, and they didn't say it was going to happen. And I'm just going to have to click back over to OLN at 1:30pm today and watch these inepts again and hopefully tag on the end of the stage's win to what I already have.

Crappity crap.

Koffee

^*^BATMAN^*^

07-20-05, 10:45 AM

check it out tonight, they might have the finish for the prime time showing

hi565

07-20-05, 10:51 AM

check it out tonight, they might have the finish for the prime time showing

yep extended coverage, hey you might get bobke doing the commentary! :)

jbonus

07-20-05, 10:51 AM

Ugh...Primetime coverage! Get the Gum off my TV screen!

Allen H

07-20-05, 10:54 AM

That's odd. My OLN covered the finish (my wife and I were both screaming, "go Paolo! go!" at the TV). We're in the Pacific time zone - don't know if that matters.

I've only had one stage so far where the post-race was cut off, per Comcast's program schedule (Stage 15, IIRC). Fortunately, I was watching live at that point, so I added the next time segment to record and caught all the interviews, etc.

Devil

07-20-05, 10:57 AM

Awesome win for Paolo!

Guest

07-20-05, 11:09 AM

Oh, but here's the thing. If OLN doesn't notify programming of the extended coverage, tivo stops taping. So I miss out on the end unless I knew it was extending. I was 30 minutes behind with watching the Tour coverage, and by the time I got to the end and realized there was 30 minutes to go, it was noon, and the television coverage for the tivo was lost.

It's playing right now on OLN. I'm just going to turn it back 30 minutes before it's scheduled ending and start watching so I can finish taping the last 30 minutes.

Koffee

darrencope

07-20-05, 11:46 AM

Excellent ride for Paolo!! Congrats!

Allen H

07-20-05, 11:53 AM

daytonian

07-20-05, 12:27 PM

Note to Pereiro & the Hincapie-bashers:

Did you see how Paolo made Hinault work? He pulled back a couple times, when it was clear Hinault was just trying to suck his wheel, and made Hinault pull. He also sprinted out more than once, to make Hinault work more.

His tactics let the other two chasers catch them, but Paolo STILL outsprinted them in the end.

Nice to see Salvodelli dominate and put into perspective another way for Disco to win a stage.

doctorSpoc

07-20-05, 12:50 PM

Note to Pereiro & the Hincapie-bashers:

Did you see how Paolo made Hinault work? He pulled back a couple times, when it was clear Hinault was just trying to suck his wheel, and made Hinault pull. He also sprinted out more than once, to make Hinault work more.

His tactics let the other two chasers catch them, but Paolo STILL outsprinted them in the end.

yep, that was a nice win for sure, and it was nice to see him actually working in the break before the finale and not sitting on for 100kms... the technique some other members of his team use to get wins... good on you Paolo... now, that's how you win a bike race!

Murrays

07-20-05, 12:51 PM

Interesting tactics by Disco; what was their intention? Are they trying to get the team classification? Get other teams to work for once? Granted, I haven’t seen the coverage so this may have been discussed by Phil & Paul (I don’t really care what Al & Bob have to say about this :))

-murray

jitteringjr

07-20-05, 01:08 PM

What I can't believe is that OLN, knowing this is the longest stage, slotted only 3 hours. I just finished watching my damn tivo, and the final descent to the finish is cut off! So I flip over to tv, and tivo didn't get the last 30 minutes of the tv coverage either! So I have no ending to stage 17 whatsoever, just when it was getting interesting. What a bunch of gnits! Dammit!

Koffee

Darn. That means I am in the same boat. I'll have to add tonight's prime time coverage to the record list.

Murrays

07-20-05, 01:16 PM

Darn. That means I am in the same boat. I'll have to add tonight's prime time coverage to the record list.

How much over did it go? I've got mine set for an extra hour in the morning...just in case.

-murray

Crack'n'fail

07-20-05, 01:56 PM

Note to Pereiro & the Hincapie-bashers:

Did you see how Paolo made Hinault work? He pulled back a couple times, when it was clear Hinault was just trying to suck his wheel, and made Hinault pull. He also sprinted out more than once, to make Hinault work more.

His tactics let the other two chasers catch them, but Paolo STILL outsprinted them in the end.

Thanks. I had missed the finish for Paolo because I was doing some landscaping, but your comments made me go back and watch it on one of the replays today.

That was some of the most beautiful racing I have ever seen. Absolutely fantastic!