Professional Cycling For the Fans - Stage 20: Saint-Etienne ITT

Bad as Murphy's law was today, is this still the best Rassmussen has ever done in a TT?

Even with 2 crashes and 4 bike changes, he beat almost 80 riders today - finished something like 77th in the stage.

What about this guy:

138 Guido Trenti (USA)
Trenti was born in Italy to an Italian father and American mother, and therefore holds dual citizenship.

Anyone notice Vino was also running oval chainrings today (ala Julich) ?

Julich ran with a Camelbak in this stage too. Which made me wonder why we (at least I) didn't see any of the new thin profile water bottles for those who carried them.

Anyone notice Vino was also running oval chainrings today (ala Julich) ?
i noticed that too.i hope i can make that list. ;) ;)

Even with 2 crashes and 4 bike changes, he beat almost 80 riders today - finished something like 77th in the stage.


But only 20 or 30 were racing.

120 were doing enough to avoid elimination.

Trenti was born in Italy to an Italian father and American mother, and therefore holds dual citizenship.

OLN should hire you as their trivia consultant! :) Guido Trenti is culturally an Italian but legally and Italian and an American. So should he be included in the listing on Americans who have ridden in the TDF? Well, if he is included, then you would have to include at least one more rider that I am aware of who holds dual nationality in America and another country. Anyone know who that is? No mods please. ;)

I suppose you could include Davide Rebellin (unless he turned down the Argentine citizenship he applied for last year).

And did Neil Campbell ever get his NZ citizenship?

I suppose you could include Davide Rebellin (unless he turned down the Argentine citizenship he applied for last year).

And did Neil Campbell ever get his NZ citizenship?

Well, those guys don't have dual citizenship in America, but this guy does:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/interviews/sven_montgomery01.shtml

Would this make 33 Americans who have ridden the TDF?

Well, those guys don't have dual citizenship in America, but this guy does:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/interviews/sven_montgomery01.shtml

Would this make 33 Americans who have ridden the TDF?

Only if he committed to riding for the US in international competitions (Worlds, Olympics, etc.)
If he's done those races for Italy, then he's Italian.
That's assuming he's ever taken part in the Worlds or Olympics, most pros haven't...

Only if he committed to riding for the US in international competitions (Worlds, Olympics, etc.)
If he's done those races for Italy, then he's Italian.
That's assuming he's ever taken part in the Worlds or Olympics, most pros haven't...

Is this a UCI rule? Where is this qualification found?

And Sven is, errr, Swiss/American. :o But Trenti is Italian/American and has ridden for the US in the Worlds competition because he is eligible to represent the US since he is a US citizen. I think eligibility is the key here. Sven could represent the US if he wanted to and could qualify, but unlike Trenti has either chosen not to or couldn't qualify.

Either way, OLN is going to have to check their trivia guy. :p

Is this a UCI rule? Where is this qualification found?

No, it's not- I see that my post turned out more authoritative in tone than I intended; it was meant more as an expression of my opinion. FWIW, the only statements I could find in the UCI regs are as follows:

(WC) 9.2.001 National Federations shall select riders to participate in World Championships.

(Olympics)
Participation
11.1.003 To take part in the Olympics, each rider shall:
? hold a licence issued by a National Federation
? be at least 18 years old for track events, 19 years old for road and mountain bike events or
reach this age in the year of the Olympics.

Apparently this means that each Federation/Nat'l Olympic Commitee decides its own eligibility requirements.

My statement was just roughly according to what Intn'l Football uses, i.e. that once you declare, or participate, for one nation's senior level team, you cannot represent another country.

the roundabout where rasmussen crashed and salvodelli almost crashed (they took a left). was there coverage of JU or LA negotiating that turn or taking the safer right side of the roundabout? i didn't see any. i imagine they both went right.

the roundabout where rasmussen crashed and salvodelli almost crashed (they took a left). was there coverage of JU or LA negotiating that turn or taking the safer right side of the roundabout? i didn't see any. i imagine they both went right.


I think the right side was barricaded off?

I think the right side was barricaded off?

Yep.

I think the right side was barricaded off?
Remember, I am old.

I did see someone take the right side of one roundabout. I think it was that one because my recollection is that I said at the time that they were avoiding the same problem.

Never mind, probably another fiction. :rolleyes:

the roundabout where rasmussen crashed and salvodelli almost crashed (they took a left). was there coverage of JU or LA negotiating that turn or taking the safer right side of the roundabout? i didn't see any. i imagine they both went right.

was able to watch footage ... followed armstrong before the roundabout, but then the coverage cut to ulrich up the road. however, bob roll mentioned that he wondered if armstrong would take the left or the right to avoid the sharp corner. we didn't get to see so we'll never know (maybe it's on the dvd), but sounds like they had the option.