BMX - Lightest bike

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wagz
07-16-05, 01:14 AM
Hey all just out of curiosity what is the lightest good quality bmx bike stock?


Brian
07-16-05, 01:31 AM
You may want to re-phrase your question. Street, race, flatland, or freestyle?

sxe fbm rider
07-16-05, 08:31 AM
It would definately be this baby right here.
http://www.cowguys.com/jonbike.jpg


mude
07-16-05, 02:23 PM
actually, those bikes arent as light as you'd think

TERMINATOR
07-16-05, 05:15 PM
I think that Redline makes a superlight Titanium frame that is only like 2.8 Pounds or some thing but it costs 500 dollars. Unless your rich i'd get a S&M Dirt Track Frame.

Brian
07-16-05, 05:40 PM
He's not looking to buy one, he just asked what the lightest complete is.

KinetikBiker
07-17-05, 06:32 AM
It would definately be this baby right here.
http://www.cowguys.com/jonbike.jpg
no...but nice try...they really arent that light...my sister has one...


actually, those bikes arent as light as you'd think
good times....good times....

they also loop out really easy...and its hard to 360 with them...

KinetikBiker
07-17-05, 06:37 AM
Naw this baby is light as hell AND it comes with Brian Foster stock!!!....

sxe fbm rider
07-17-05, 01:13 PM
That one probably takes the prize.

TERMINATOR
07-18-05, 06:23 PM
Nope, Found one lighter. Only weighs a half gram.
Half a Gram Bicycle (http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/yw/2002/10/05/stories/2002100500300400.htm)

Brian
07-19-05, 01:49 AM
Nope, Found one lighter. Only weighs a half gram.


Does it have sealed hubs?

dansjustchillin
07-19-05, 03:25 AM
I had my hemi down to 23 pounds, i could have got it lighter too but i ended up selling it anyway.

simonw
07-20-05, 02:28 AM
Ok, I will re-phrase the question as I am also interested in the answer what are the lightest completes for each catagory:

Flatland
Dirt
Street
Park

KinetikBiker
07-20-05, 09:40 AM
Does it have sealed hubs?
yeah man, sealed CASSETTE hubs with a Ti axle and Ti axle nuts DUDE!

Flatline
07-20-05, 11:06 AM
Ti axles rock

queensrider86
07-20-05, 12:08 PM
except when they break

Brian
07-20-05, 02:49 PM
yeah man, sealed CASSETTE hubs with a Ti axle and Ti axle nuts DUDE!


And a carbon fibre headset spacer...

queensrider86
07-20-05, 04:04 PM
And a carbon fibre headset spacer...

do you have some carbon fiber headset spacer fetish?

Flatline
07-20-05, 05:08 PM
Might as well throw some Carbon Fiber forks in while your at it.

cubehead22
07-20-05, 05:16 PM
im not a genus at this kind of stuff but schwinn superstocks are relly light so are mongoose supergoose 1984 lol im a dork dont listen to me -hope i helped

bmxrdr88
07-20-05, 07:16 PM
im never racing carbon forks again. my fmf power bombs shattered on me last season.

Brian
07-21-05, 12:31 AM
do you have some carbon fiber headset spacer fetish?

It's a joke! We used titanium as much as possible on the tandem. The only place we used CF was the headset spacers.

iweargirlspants
07-24-05, 01:56 PM
carbonfiber is stupid.

Brian
07-24-05, 02:42 PM
carbonfiber is stupid.

It's actually an inanimate object, therefore it cannot be stupid. What's your excuse?

TroyLeeRacer199
07-24-05, 06:54 PM
im never racing carbon forks again. my fmf power bombs shattered on me last season.

Fmf powerbombs?? I have that header on my dirtbike!!

https://www.fmfracing.com/products/catalog.aspx?CategoryID=44

At least thats the only Fmf powerbomb i know of.

iweargirlspants
07-24-05, 09:24 PM
It's actually an inanimate object, therefore it cannot be stupid. What's your excuse?

there is no excuse for you sir.

Brian
07-25-05, 12:53 AM
I'm sorry sir, I shall trry to be more respectful of my elders from this day forward, so I don't get banned from the forums*.

*Not his actual quote. We can only hope one day he'll see the light.

KinetikBiker
07-26-05, 08:45 AM
*Not his actual quote. We can only hope one day he'll see the light.
haha, the power of using the forum and "HTML"

iweargirlspants
07-26-05, 05:25 PM
*Not his actual quote. We can only hope one day he'll see the light.

is this a threat?

Brian
07-27-05, 12:32 AM
is this a threat?

No, it's a reminder.

iweargirlspants
07-27-05, 07:09 PM
No, it's a reminder.

k.

KinetikBiker
07-30-05, 09:55 PM
is this a threat?
no he didnnnnt!

simonw
08-02-05, 06:14 AM
KHE Unique Bike (2004) 22 pound flatland

KHE Midget Cory Walter Signature Bike (2005) 25 pound dirt bike

bmxrdr88
08-02-05, 05:27 PM
fmf makes carbon forks called the bowerbombs as well as moto stuff that might have the same name as them. and i wouldn't advise getting them. they suck.

Brian
08-03-05, 01:25 AM
fmf makes carbon forks called the bowerbombs as well as moto stuff that might have the same name as them. and i wouldn't advise getting them. they suck.

Right, carbon fibre is only good for headset spacers.

FireTeamCharlie
08-03-05, 11:31 AM
Carbon Fibre Headset Spacers Represent!(Also spelt it the English way to as effect)

hypersnazz
08-03-05, 02:21 PM
Okay guys, you can all stop talking out your asses about carbon fiber. Here's the scoop...

Carbon fiber composite (if manufactured properly) is stronger than steel, stronger than Ti and something like 800 times stronger per unit of mass than aluminum. Stiffness is variable and can be made to suit many specific applications depending on manufacturing process. Carbon can be springier than Ti and stiffer than aluminum, if you know how to make it that way. Its main shortcomings are:

- Poorly manufactured carbon can be dangerously weak and there's no way to tell good carbon from bad carbon without breaking or otherwise destroying it. Only trust products that have been thoroughly tested and analyzed under real conditions.

- Carbon withstands stress along its fibers *better* than the leading alloys but its tolerance for impact and other kinds of stress is worse than metals. If carbon parts are damaged, they are drastically weakened and in most cases need to be thrown away immediately.

- When carbon parts do fail, they fail catastrophically (snap) and without warning. Alloys will bend and weaken before they fail entirely, carbon will not.

As a general rule, carbon composites are *not* well suited to the kinds of stresses BMX bikes endure. Steel and Ti are preferred over aluminum unless stiffness and light weight are the driving force.

Brian
08-03-05, 02:48 PM
Don't go trying to confuse me with your scientific babble. I'll never accept carbon fibre, (or carbon fiber, when I return to the US) for one simple reason: It's too stiff where it needs to offer some give. I don't want a stiff road bike, I want a compliant MTB.

FireTeamCharlie
08-03-05, 03:11 PM
Agreed "Chromoly" 4130 is the best BMX meterial and nothing else.

hypersnazz
08-03-05, 03:46 PM
Don't go trying to confuse me with your scientific babble. I'll never accept carbon fibre, (or carbon fiber, when I return to the US) for one simple reason: It's too stiff where it needs to offer some give. I don't want a stiff road bike, I want a compliant MTB.

I was more referring to inane comments like, "Don't get FMF Powerbombs because carbon sucks!"

FireTeamCharlie
08-03-05, 03:49 PM
If carbon sucks why do military's use the on their guns as the stock. And also The USAF, and NASA have developed a meterial called Carbon Carbon that they plan on using on scram jets and stuff like that so Carbon is the future.

Brian
08-04-05, 01:39 AM
If carbon sucks why do military's use the on their guns as the stock. And also The USAF, and NASA have developed a meterial called Carbon Carbon that they plan on using on scram jets and stuff like that so Carbon is the future.

Ok, you're going to need to really concentrate and think this through. Have you ever heard of a cap on military spending? Didn't think so. The gov't doesn't have a budget, unlike the rest of. They can spec whatever they want, at whatever the cost. When you hand over a blank check, you can generally expect the highest quality goods available. Comparing BMX forks to a gun stock is just stupid. They're not jumping sets of triples with their butt-stock. Think about it.

FireTeamCharlie
08-04-05, 02:29 AM
Well im just stating how good carbon can be.

Brian
08-04-05, 02:39 AM
Well im just stating how good carbon can be.

No, you are making a statement in the form of a question. Why is carbon fibre good? What are some of the inherent qualities of carbon fibre that make it suitable for applications related to bicycles? What makes it good for rifle stocks?

FireTeamCharlie
08-04-05, 11:40 PM
Oh yeah I did. but Carbon can be good just not in our price range. But Carbon Fiber headset spacers are awesome!

Brian
08-05-05, 01:14 AM
But Carbon Fiber headset spacers are awesome!

Now you've got it.

FireTeamCharlie
08-05-05, 01:22 AM
Oh Yeah!

hypersnazz
08-05-05, 02:08 AM
I just got a bunch of extra carbon headset spacers with my new road bike, if I wind up cutting the steer tube down I'm DEFINITELY gonna toss the extras on my BMX bikes. I bet it'll totally help me with manuals. And backflips. :D

FireTeamCharlie
08-05-05, 02:28 AM
They help me with my BMX kickflip!

Brian
08-05-05, 02:31 AM
We're going to get some fat tire beach cruisers soon. No place for carbon on there.