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wsurfn
 
I wonder if Mark, Rudy, and others can chime in...

For a road tandem(without disc set-up), without budget concern, what are the best rim brakes on the market?


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zonatandem
 
Our current choice for non-disc brakes on our tandem are:
D/A front and Tektro-Mini V-brake rear (not utilizing a TravelAgent). Have also used Avid Ti V-brakesfront and rear.
However, having said that, there are loads of choices out there, that if properly set-up will work very well.


Brian
 
Scott self energizing canti's maybe? I'm also quite partial to Avid Arch Rivals, although I don't know how well they would adapt to a road bike.


wsurfn
 
Rudy:

Do you find the brakes feel different at the brake levers?


TandemGeek
 
I wonder if Mark, Rudy, and others can chime in...

For a road tandem(without disc set-up), without budget concern, what are the best rim brakes on the market?

Canti/V-brake bosses or caliper?


wsurfn
 
Mark, pretend your bike had no disc tabs, but posts are available for V's, or you also have the option of calipers.


PaMTBRider
 
Do V-brakes offer any advantage over caliper brakes other than being able to accomodate wider tires? Will a Dura-ace caliper open far enough to clear an Ultra Gatorskin 700x28 ?


zonatandem
 
Wsurfn:
A bit more positive feel with the Tektro-Mini than the Avid Ti for us.

Rudy and Kay/zonatandem


TandemGeek
 
Mark, pretend your bike had no disc tabs, but posts are available for V's, or you also have the option of calipers.

Dual Pivot calipers... The performance / modulation is predictable and not adversely influenced by frame or fork flex at the bosses like canti and linear pull brakes and they are all designed to work with drop bar levers without the use of travel agents or other types of cable pull compensators required for linear pull brakes. There are some pretty good canti's on the market these days but, unlike calipers which are no-brainers to set-up, you must know how to set up canti's to get optimum performance and frame / fork flex is still a factor.

As for tire clearance, I believe most of the high-end Shimano and Campy dual pivots will work with 28mm tires, perhaps even 32mm although I haven't verified this as none of the folks whom we ride with use tires any wider than 28mm. However, you may find that even with the brake releases opened, the larger diameter tires won't fit through the brake pads if they are fully inflated. But, the biggest obstacle / barrier to their use for tourists is the lack of sufficient clearance for mud guards.

In regard to mud guards, there are three solutions if you are interested in dual pivot caliper brakes:

1. Shimano has thankfully started marketing the R600 long-reach brake caliper in the US again and they offer up to 57mm of reach for large diameter touring tires and mud guard clearance. However, to get the benefit offered by these brakes, your bike's frame and fork need to be made to work with them, e.g., higher pivot placement on the fork crown and rear brake bridge. If I was having a touring tandem built, these are the brakes that I would specify, along with mounting hardware and cable routing to accommodate both rear disc (I.S. mount or drum brake (pacman) installations.

2. Anyone who is mechanically inclined can modify a standard set of SKS plastic mudguards to fit around a standard set of brake calipers.

3. SKS has developed a set of clip-on RaceBlade (http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&description=RaceBlade+Road+Fenders&vendorCode=SKS&major=3&minor=3) fenders that are designed for use on racing bikes not fitted with fender eyelets in both narrow (700x19 - 23mm) and wide (700x23 - 32mm) tires widths. While these don't offer "total protection" like a set of full mud guards (your feet will still get soaked), they do a very good job of cutting down the rooster tails off both the front & rear tires and pop and and off the bike in minutes.


zonatandem
 
Used Scott SE brakes for 58,000 miles on our 'retired' Co-Motion tandem. Worked great.


Lost Coyote
 
For a road tandem(without disc set-up), without budget concern, what are the best rim brakes on the market?

Paul’s Components Motolite V-Brakes. Full Stop. Combined with Travel Agents and "Compression-less" cable housing there is none better for power and modulation. Paul's is the Chris King of brakes


wsurfn
 
L.C.:

How easy is the quick release with the travel agents (important on the front).

Let's see some picts of them on your ride. They look good to me...


Lost Coyote
 
Paul's Quick release is absolutely the easiest of all the mfgrs to use, bar none. I took the Paul's off my front when I upgraded to a Winwood fork and a disc brake. I did keep the Paul's in the rear with the travel agents. Again, I can't stress enough the improvement gained with the compressionless housing. I'll try to find time to take pics.


Lost Coyote
 
O.K. My boy took the digital to camp, so no pics for a while! Basically, the travel agent replaces the noodle and slides right into Paul's quick release bracket. Paul's qiuck release is so simple and works so well, it's way kool.


TandemGeek
 
http://www.paulcomp.com/moto.jpghttp://www.speedgoat.com/images/products/BR8861.jpg

More info here: http://www.paulcomp.com/motolite.html

And here: http://www.paulcomp.com/techmoto.html

Can be found for about $99 at most Etailers.


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