Training & Nutrition - New Food Pyramid

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tmayder
07-29-02, 08:03 AM
Finally! A new pyramid from the Harvard School of Health. I don't remember if it was here or on another forum that there was discussion about how the original pyramid released in the 80's was not designed by doctors or scientist, but by lawyers... a contribution to fatty Americans.

This site shows a USDA pyramid and a "Healthy Eating Pyramid". The HEP is a little confusing to me. Every Healthly Eating report that I have seen on the internet seems to disagree with the report I read before. Geez! It makes me wonder if anybody really knows.

This link also has good info that breaks down the good, the bad and the ugly in different food groups. Worth the read...

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/pyramids.html

Cheers!
Linda


RWTD
07-29-02, 09:06 AM
While a definate improvement over government guidelines I think these also tend not to be up to date and suffer from the same establishment thinking they accuse the government of.In particular I would take exception to his emphasis on vegetable oils which tend to easily go rancid from heating and exposure to air.Plus they are largley responsible for our current deficit of omega 3 to omega 6 oils in the average diet.I would rely on whole vegitables for this oil with possible exception of olive oil.Also I personally see no harm in lean cuts of beef versus lean cuts of other meat particularly if grass fed rather than grain fed which is the real problem.Also farmed fish which much of the fish in supermarkets is today is grain fed and so now deficient in omega 3's which is supposedly the benefit from eating fish. It just shows that you have to educate yourself on nutrition and make your own decisions not rely on others with agendas and conflictssuch as media,goverment etc.

LittleBigMan
07-30-02, 07:24 PM
Very interesting.

We should all study nutrition.


RWTD
07-31-02, 03:28 AM
I actually didn't read the links the first time around as I thought they were just to parts of the main page.I will have to take back much of my original sceptical criticism as I thought they provided an excellant summary of guidelines for good nutrition and a healthy lifestyle.I found myself agreeing with almost every recommendation and the summary of current research was also very informative(though I admit I haven't completed theV&M section yet) and did not appear biased as you often have to worry about with university experts and researchers who are frequently well paid consultants for and reliant for funding for research from the very industries who stand to benefit from the results of the research(who else is going to shell out the money?)a point he conveniently forgot to worn us about.I still stand by my point care needs to be taken in balancing polyunsaturated fats (omega6 to omega3 should be 2/1 vs. the current 10/1 or more ie more flax,deep sea caught oily fish or fish oil or algea supplements standardized for EPA and DHA need to be added) as modern argricultural methods have stripped eggs,milk,meat,fishetc. of its historical proper ratios.Also the grains fatten up the animals creating excess saturated fat. As I have lost my source for grass fed beef I have actually been eating very little meat lately (a lot of it comes from N.Z. and Australia so maybe Chris L. can send us some LOL).And he did say to reduce rather than eliminate saturated fat which I agree much of the population (esp. the sedentary part)needs to do.