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MSP - You know the morning show with Tommy B and all.
1. I love Terri - she's my fave.
2. This AM, out of nowhere, they dissed cyclists. Tom sez "You are not Lance, you are all homo in your spandex and silly helmets", etc. I couldn't believe it. Then in typical fashion, the other studio guys pile on the bandwagon, rant on how all cyclists blow red lights, run people off of the sidewalk, blah blah.
Then some dickhead calls in about how he slows for cyclists - so he can drop the accelerator and smoke'em out with his Diesel. BIG laughs from the studio.
I used to like that show. Now I want to firebomb the asses.
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Call in and complain to the manager. Remind them of the ClearChannel incidents and the possible reprecussions for advocating harm against cyclists.
Koffee
I've hated that show for awhile. Actually, most of the commercial radio stations in the cities, but that one is pretty bad. Luckily I don't work 1st shift or third shift anymore, so I'm sleeping when it's on. But most people I work with listen to that station...
BTW, shouldn't this be in advocacy and safety? Amazing to see koffee post on a thread like this and not move it...
F those F'in Fs. There's a reason they call it drive-time. It SUCKS.
bernard is a putz. he has been for years. rather, he's never not been. he's nothing more than a has-been wanna-be howard stern. who is also a putz.
I've hated that show for awhile. Actually, most of the commercial radio stations in the cities, but that one is pretty bad. Luckily I don't work 1st shift or third shift anymore, so I'm sleeping when it's on. But most people I work with listen to that station...
BTW, shouldn't this be in advocacy and safety? Amazing to see koffee post on a thread like this and not move it...
Doh! I didn't even look to see where it was placed. I just assumed it was already in that forum.
Thanks for the heads up.
---> Moved to A & S Forum.
Koffee
Call in and complain to the manager. Remind them of the ClearChannel incidents and the possible reprecussions for advocating harm against cyclists.
Koffee
I agree with Koffee. If you can take the time to rant//post here, and it bothers you that much, you can take the time to give 92 KQRS a call and tell them how you feel, and how their broadcast has affected your listening. Tell your bike buddies to call. Tell your family that they are attacking you and supporting attacks on your right to ride your bike. Tell your cowworkers the same thing. Write them a letter. It won't take that much longer than posting on here, and it will get a lot more done than posting on here.
92 KQRS Business Office: (612) 617-4000
92 KQRS
2000 S.E. Elm St.
Minneapolis, MN 55414
Geez! I did, ok? Sorry, mom!
I wrote a little e-mail that supposedly goes right to the morning show in-box. Monday should be good, I wonder if they got any feedback at all. Called the office and made a quick and polite complaint.
I agree with Koffee. If you can take the time to rant//post here, and it bothers you that much, you can take the time to give 92 KQRS a call and tell them how you feel, and how their broadcast has affected your listening. Tell your bike buddies to call. Tell your family that they are attacking you and supporting attacks on your right to ride your bike. Tell your cowworkers the same thing. Write them a letter. It won't take that much longer than posting on here, and it will get a lot more done than posting on here.
I would also contact the businesses that buy advertisement time on the station. Certainly there are bike shops, health clubs and sporting goods stores that advertise on that station...?
I think the only bike shop that I know of that might advertise on there would be Erik's, and there one of those huge chain bike shops that pander to people that need hybrids and don't really ride, charge to much for parts, don't have a knowledgable staff, etc. I don't think they'd even care, honestly.
why do you listen to talk radio anyway... i mean.. they don't even talk about anything. they just ooze this stupidity... like a 12 year old that's been 12 for 40 years.
I have a morning routine - coffee and channel 5 news for 1/2 hour. I pop the radio on during (all too common) commercials. Commercials on the radio, flip thru the dial. More gab, more commercials. Drop on an LP, kill TV, finish coffee, take the needle off the record, etc.
:rolleyes:
Yea i know how you feal i was lsiting to mark and brian and he said something about they should not be on the road in the mountains i basiclly lost all repsect for them when they said that...
Hmmm... they feel put off by the "silly helmets," eh?
Maybe we should call in to Tommy and encourage him to stop being a yellow chickenhawk, put on his manly war helmet and battle shorts, and ride his bike all hetero-like in Iraq (because they're obviously kinder to bikers than in Tommy's hick town)...
I have a morning routine - coffee and channel 5 news for 1/2 hour. I pop the radio on during (all too common) commercials. Commercials on the radio, flip thru the dial. More gab, more commercials. Drop on an LP, kill TV, finish coffee, take the needle off the record, etc.
:rolleyes:
I think I like mine a little better...
Sleep in past all the morning news on tv or the radio, brew up 4 shots of espresso, check bikeForums, blogs and email, shower, ride to work...
So much simpler and less aggravating :p
I think I like mine a little better...
Sleep in past all the morning news on tv or the radio, brew up 4 shots of espresso, check bikeForums, blogs and email, shower, ride to work...
So much simpler and less aggravating :p
"check bikeForums" ... "less aggravating"?
Only if taken with many grains of skepticism salt.
I would get more aggravated (if not depressed) if I thought that some of the bikeForum advice-chatter about "cycling PC" was taken seriously by any decision maker who could actually influence the bicycling environment.
Boycott KQRS and its advertisers, and tell them why.
why do you listen to talk radio anyway... i mean.. they don't even talk about anything. they just ooze this stupidity...
You could easily expand "talk radio" to "commercial radio" by adding "they play the same 30 bumpers" and "play the same 100-300 songs" and act like they're cutting edge badasses.
get an IPOD. you can download all sorts of interesting and much more intelligent yet funny shows.
i like the NPR show "this american life". i listen to it while biking on my commute. (don't kill me, just one earpiece low volume).
i stopped listening to talk/commercial radio a long long time ago - so much better stuff out there.
If you think a FEW callers are going to make a diff to the HUGE nat'l chains who own most of radio stations across the USA I have a bridge to sell you in SF, the tolls will pay the mortgage too.
They rant and rile deliberately to raise the ratings and charge more for ads. Call the office and complain? Most response you MAY get is a humanoid who will say "Thank You very much for your call".
Cycle commuters don't have radios, car commuters do.
Turn the station off and save your blood preasure
Or get DSL and listen to Internet radio
Hmmm... they feel put off by the "silly helmets," eh?
Maybe we should call in to Tommy and encourage him to stop being a yellow chickenhawk, put on his manly war helmet and battle shorts, and ride his bike all hetero-like in Iraq (because they're obviously kinder to bikers than in Tommy's hick town)...
How about just encourage him to ride without his helmet? Might solve all our problems...
why do you listen to talk radio anyway... i mean.. they don't even talk about anything. they just ooze this stupidity... like a 12 year old that's been 12 for 40 years.
Best idea in this thread yet. Writing to them will only show them that their little piece of stupdity had an "impact", and will hence only encourage them to do it again. I suspect that's the only reason they did it in the first place. Far better just to turn it off and ignore it. If it doesn't generate the ratings and the exposure they were after, it might put them off next time.
Things like this give me the urge to respond in the following fashion:
Call or write the studio. Tell them that someone in a car tried to run you off the road, and tell them that the driver made a reference to the piece in the show. Tell them that you are going to write the FCC and complain that the show was condoning violence against cyclists, and that you were considering legal action.
Not that it would do any good, but it makes me feel better to daydream about it.
Lost all "repsect" means you have less regard for them than for a reptile, or an insect. That's pretty low :-)
you should do yourself a great favor and investigate your local national public radio station.
1. commercial free - except for the pledge drives
2. much greater variety of topics and musical programs
3. no sensationalism - bicyclist bashing etc
4. the djs/hosts are far less idiotic than those on commercial radio.
5. and finally, its commercial free ( yes i know i listed it twice - its that important).
I am a supporter of NPR..
I think the only bike shop that I know of that might advertise on there would be Erik's, and there one of those huge chain bike shops that pander to people that need hybrids and don't really ride, charge to much for parts, don't have a knowledgable staff, etc. I don't think they'd even care, honestly.
They are a huge chain, yes. But I have found the staff to be curtious, and know their stuff. I've asked about obscure things like the j-tek shiftmate and other odd devices and they always know what I'm talking about and have given their opinon, suggested alternatives etc. Their prices are higher than the internet shops but in line with what other shops in town charge, and since they always have a sale or a 5-20% off coupon in the paper the difference in price is pretty small. I'm not affiliated with them other than as a customer, but I think your accusations are based on what you THINK they are like, not your actual experience with them.
Well, as per the original post, I might have met Mr. Diesel this AM.
On the way to work, a line of 3 cars goes by. Last in line is a bigger-than-usual Dodge Diesel, and as the tailpipe goes by my front hub, he goosed it for a second.
Up went the finger, sideways gangsta style. He tapped the brakes so hard he chirped the back tires.
So to make it easier for the both of us, I crossed over to the driver side and we began our conversation. I never slowed down, and I actually had to wave him forward and pointed to the road right next to me in order to get him close enough to speak. It was actually pretty polite -
Me: "I didn't appreciate you goosing the throttle to smoke me out."
Him: Very puzzled look, "Why don't you ride on the sidewalk?"
Me: "That's for pedestrians"
Him: "Oh"
And I got back over to the shoulder. It was a beautiful morning for a ride, but I could smell nothing but diesel fumes for the next 10 minutes. I thought he was waiting behind a bush somewhere, all the way in.
MSP - You know the morning show with Tommy B and all.
1. I love Terri - she's my fave.
2. This AM, out of nowhere, they dissed cyclists. Tom sez "You are not Lance, you are all homo in your spandex and silly helmets", etc. I couldn't believe it. Then in typical fashion, the other studio guys pile on the bandwagon, rant on how all cyclists blow red lights, run people off of the sidewalk, blah blah.
Then some dickhead calls in about how he slows for cyclists - so he can drop the accelerator and smoke'em out with his Diesel. BIG laughs from the studio.
I used to like that show. Now I want to firebomb the asses.
It's nice how none of you examined the substance of the complaint... The bit about the spandex and homo is unecessary and I would understand if your offended, but these are shock jocks so I'm letting it slide. The real portion of the "dissing" is all complaining about illegal cycling activity... I don't know how many times I have seen someone here (BikeForums A&S) complain about cyclists who run reds or ride on the sidewallk, but heaven forbid a morning show repeat your complaints. They probably used to wide a brush, but this is an opportune time to call in and practice some of that "advocacy". Explain that many of us do obey the rules of the road, and in return we would just like them to watch out to not hit us/run us off the road/ play dagerous practical jokes on us...
Edit: I grew up in Mpls, Terri is nice, but dreadfully slow to pick up on jokes.
I'm surprised gay rights people haven't complained about the stereotyping. Go figure.
I like the idea proposed by cydewaze. :D
I think the only bike shop that I know of that might advertise on there would be Erik's, and there one of those huge chain bike shops that pander to people that need hybrids and don't really ride, charge to much for parts, don't have a knowledgable staff, etc. I don't think they'd even care, honestly.
Ummm, excuse me for this little diversion from the thread... But I'm a little offended by your "people that need hybrids and don't really ride" comment. I ride a hybrid. I chose it because it is a hybrid and that is what I needed and I ride it everyday... to take my son to school, to get groceries, run errands, etc. Wouldn't that qualify as "real riding"? If not than perhaps you could share with us what "real riding" is.
Ok, rant over - thanks for indulging me - carry on :)
I think he meant like, "I need a bike to hang in my garage, to make me feel like I actually tried to excercise" kind of riding.
You ride and you know it, it's not the type of bike that counts.
Carry on.
Call in and complain to the manager. Remind them of the ClearChannel incidents and the possible reprecussions for advocating harm against cyclists.
Koffee
Koffee has it right. These jokers are just cowards who would wet their pants if they were confronted face-to-face by any cyclist here.
Interesting that this has come up again, after the whole thing with clear channel, and Boston's WRKO. (a station that is not owned by clear channel.)
The LAB got an apology out of clear channel management, and "a termination at the market level" according to their quarterly magazine. I have no doubt that this was done to head off any further legal action.
WRKO settled with the Mass Bike coalition, by agreeing to grant free air time to broadcast service announcments prepared by Mass Bike. WRKO also sponsored some Mass Bike events. One thing that did not happen: An on-air apology from conservative radio bad boy, Howie Carr. Carr was quoted as saying "I don't care what the law says, you don't belong on the road". Using that logic, I'd say that Carr, and people like him, don't belong on the air. As I said, I'm just his own logic here. Carr has attacked cyclists several times over the years. On occasion, he has urged his listeners to "just run them off the road". The good news is that Carr has not attacked cyclists since last year, as promised by WRKO management. (To his credit, he is actually quite good at sticking to our corrupt politicians, and ludicrous state agencies such as the Mass Turnpike Authority.)
What not to do in these cases: Call that program with the potty-mouthed DJ's. You might feel an urge to call them right away, and scream at them, but don't. It's just what they want. It is amazing how brave these people are, while they're inside a high-security building, in a studio, behind a commercial transmitter. If you call in, you become part of the program, subject to their taunts and humiliation. Remember, they have to pull in ratings. To do that, they have to appeal to the lowest common denominator, using humor and language that most of us grow out of at age sixteen. (How sad is that?)
This is another one of those times when I must ask, "How did we get to this?"
Give world band radio a try. Radio Netherlands is quite good, there are plenty of others. With Real player, you can listen on-line to most world band stations (broadband works best for this.)
And write a letter of complaint to the sponsers. They hold more power than the FCC.
marketing@rasmussen.edu
advertising@TheMLSonline.com
My name is Thomas R. and I live in Sacramento, CA. It has come to my attention you sponsor or promote radio station KQRS in Minneapolis,MN.
I would like to voice my displeasure at the comments directed at bicycles by The Morning Show with Tommy B. The comments were "You are not Lance, you are all homo in your spandex and silly helmets" Aside from the use of homophobic language, 10% of your target audience is homosexual, and 50% have rode a bicycle in the last two years.
The show continued with a callers description of violent encounters involving bicycles, unfortunately we don't know if it was real or even the age of the victims.
I understand the show format is "Shock Jock" and minorities are easy targets, but regardless of your beliefs, is this the best use of your advertising dollars. I'm not sure if your aware of it: the KQRS website title sits on top of your website, go to
http://www.92kqrs.com/morningshow.asp
and click on Real Estate or Smart Shopper.
I would have contacted other sponsors of KQRS but they have pulled the webpage that says "contact our sponsors".
If you think I'm a nut (possible) please visit the forum where this is discussed:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=124011
and for a history of what occurred last time bicycles and the radio became unhealthy:
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=38359&highlight=clear+channel
and
http://www.forbes.com/work/newswire/2003/11/06/rtr1139386.html
"50% have rode a bicycle in the last two years"?
Well, as per the original post, I might have met Mr. Diesel this AM.
On the way to work, a line of 3 cars goes by. Last in line is a bigger-than-usual Dodge Diesel, and as the tailpipe goes by my front hub, he goosed it for a second.
Up went the finger, sideways gangsta style. He tapped the brakes so hard he chirped the back tires.
So to make it easier for the both of us, I crossed over to the driver side and we began our conversation. I never slowed down, and I actually had to wave him forward and pointed to the road right next to me in order to get him close enough to speak. It was actually pretty polite -
Me: "I didn't appreciate you goosing the throttle to smoke me out."
Him: Very puzzled look, "Why don't you ride on the sidewalk?"
Me: "That's for pedestrians"
Him: "Oh"
And I got back over to the shoulder. It was a beautiful morning for a ride, but I could smell nothing but diesel fumes for the next 10 minutes. I thought he was waiting behind a bush somewhere, all the way in.
...just in case cagers were wondering if bicyclists are jerks, might as well prove it to them. Now, Colinm, that is not your true style. I thought you were more diplomatic than that. Giving drivers the bird is never a good idea.
you should do yourself a great favor and investigate your local national public radio station.
I got a survey phone call once asking about what station I listened to. This was a small college town, and the NPR station was campus radio that reached out a dozen miles or so. The pollster was obviously only looking for a listener ratio between the commercial stations. It went something like this:
Pollster> What radio station do you listen to most?
Me> NPR.
P> OK, well, what station do you listen to most apart from that?
M> I listened to the others for about 5 minutes when I came to town, and they're all garbage.
P> You must listen to something other than NPR when you're driving around?
M> If there's a pledge drive on, I shut the radio off and listen to road noise; it's more interesting than the other stations.
At that point I think she said "OK, thanks" and hung up.
MSP - You know the morning show with Tommy B and all.
1. I love Terri - she's my fave.
2. This AM, out of nowhere, they dissed cyclists. Tom sez "You are not Lance, you are all homo in your spandex and silly helmets", etc. I couldn't believe it. Then in typical fashion, the other studio guys pile on the bandwagon, rant on how all cyclists blow red lights, run people off of the sidewalk, blah blah.
Then some dickhead calls in about how he slows for cyclists - so he can drop the accelerator and smoke'em out with his Diesel. BIG laughs from the studio.
I used to like that show. Now I want to firebomb the asses.You sound like an insecure biker. KQ hits all sides of the audience for laughs. If you were deep into biking enough you wouldn't be offended by what people say, especially the media. And if you had enough biking experience you'ld know how to handle these situations if they arise in real life. People who criticize bikers should be taken sympathy upon. Their obviously frustrated in their own stuffy worlds. Life is bigger than the media itself. Learn to laugh, because he who laughs last, is the most happy
Don't forget to drop ABC an email here at http://www.abcradio.com/index.cfm?bay=comm.contact. LEt them know about this. If you get a cycle organization or a gay rights group on them, they'll work overtime to make the problem go away.
Go to google and enter "radio station apologizes to cyclist" to see a few more examples of radio stations getting into hot water over similar things.
There's one more thing, and I'm sure it sounds as though I'm a member of the "foil hat crowd". Here goes:
That bit with "Mr. Diesel pickup truck" almost sounds too perfect, as though it were designed to provoke a reaction and was scripted just for that purpose. Is there any chance that a lot of the calls made to shock jock programs are faked? That they are in fact made by a station staffer, sitting in another studio at the station, reading from a script? I ask this because these stations will do whatever it takes to jack their ratings numers.
Question: About ten years ago, before the internet became commonly available, there were reports of a Dallas shock jock who told his listeners to save up all their worn out D-cell batteries, and to whip them at bicyclists as hard as they could. A cyclist who was assaulted in this fashion sued the shock jock, and the station, and its parent company. Anyone know anything about this?
what do expect from a radio station? Most people that are on morning shows etc... are dumb. I don't know what it is about radio stations that brings out the idiot in some people.
Funny how one of thier sponsers promotes biking:
http://chippewavalley.net/kqrs
what do expect from a radio station? Most people that are on morning shows etc... are dumb. I don't know what it is about radio stations that brings out the idiot in some people.
I love it when they do that stuff, cause only the simpletons get uptight. Then people like me get to laugh a little more.
If you were deep into biking enough you wouldn't be offended by what people say, especially the media.
Oh, okay buddy.
"And if you had enough biking experience you'ld know how to handle these situations if they arise in real life"
???
You don't know me from Jack.
I'll live my life the way I want, thanks. Wether I'm on a bike or walking, if some dick smokes me out he's getting the bird. Eye for an eye and all that. If he wants to talk about it, I'm more than happy to oblige.
Now, if what I do here offends anybody, tough pickles brother because I gotta be me. I smile and nod good day to all cyclists and I get a nod back 1 out of 10. I'm the nice guy until I get dissed, so I don't think I need a lecture on behavior.
MSP - You know the morning show with Tommy B and all.
1. I love Terri - she's my fave.
2. This AM, out of nowhere, they dissed cyclists. Tom sez "You are not Lance, you are all homo in your spandex and silly helmets", etc. I couldn't believe it. Then in typical fashion, the other studio guys pile on the bandwagon, rant on how all cyclists blow red lights, run people off of the sidewalk, blah blah.
Then some dickhead calls in about how he slows for cyclists - so he can drop the accelerator and smoke'em out with his Diesel. BIG laughs from the studio.
I used to like that show. Now I want to firebomb the asses.
Bernard is an ass. Always has been the worst part of that show.
I think the only bike shop that I know of that might advertise on there would be Erik's, and there one of those huge chain bike shops that pander to people that need hybrids and don't really ride, charge to much for parts, don't have a knowledgable staff, etc. I don't think they'd even care, honestly.
I know I'm replying to a months old post, but I just saw this thread and have to say that, IMHO, you're wrong about Erik's. They've been great to my wife and I in the time we've been customers with them. They have been exceedingly helpful to us in everyway. I am not associated with them at all. Just a satisfied customer.
Steve
A few points come to mind.
If you encounter people who are dissing wearing lycra and helmets, saying it's "gay" or whatever, seems to me that another class of athletes who wear similar attire because of its utility is NFL players. At least cyclists don't GENERALLY go around slapping each other's asses. Just an idea for a talking point. "Yeah, those sissy football players with their helmets and their gay spandex pants."
I had a girlfriend once tell me she watched sports almost exclusively because of the tight pants. Maybe those guys are worried about where their own wives are looking?
On another topic:
If someone had the money to persue it, or could convince a prosecutor to do so, I'd think that some of these things, certainly telling people to harass cyclists, and possibly even telling stories about ways to abuse cyclists, could (or at least should) be prosecutable as incitement to violence, or incitement to assault, or something.
Under some of the new laws, I'm thinking particularly some in the UK, talking about terrorist acts in any manner that seems to support or even provide legitimacy to the acts in any way is itself considered a hostile act. Though of course on a much smaller scale, I think these idiots on the radio are pretty much as guilty as someone who's out there actually throwing bottles at cyclists.
bernard is a putz. he has been for years. rather, he's never not been. he's nothing more than a has-been wanna-be howard stern. who is also a putz.
Howard Stern owns a custom Waterford bike, so he can't hate bikes too much!
Howard Stern owns a custom Waterford bike, so he can't hate bikes too much!
Minnesota radio is lame anyway. It's run by christian conservatives who still think rock-n-roll is devil worshiping.
when you say your prayers at night, thank cousin Allah that the "Q" (as Tommy so lovingly calls it) don't play no weinie dance music.
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