dannwilliams
08-30-05, 07:08 AM
I am always left in the dust at start of group rides, but come on after 15-20 miles and then ride strong through 60 or 70 miles. What do I need to do to be able to start strong?
Training & Nutrition - Slow starter..
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MisterJ
08-30-05, 07:22 AM
Warm up before you start.
spindog
08-30-05, 08:37 AM
Warm up before you start.
+1
If you train better after you have warmed up, well then....warm up first. It's not worth losing your breathing and blowing up in the beginning of a ride or a run. Many people are stronger on the second half of their rides and IMO, it's better to feel strong at the finish rather than strong at the start and struggle to the end.
I don't know your schedule or the circumstances surrounding your group rides, but if you can get there early or ride to the start, you might feel better when the peloton sprints out of the starting gate.
+1
If you train better after you have warmed up, well then....warm up first. It's not worth losing your breathing and blowing up in the beginning of a ride or a run. Many people are stronger on the second half of their rides and IMO, it's better to feel strong at the finish rather than strong at the start and struggle to the end.
I don't know your schedule or the circumstances surrounding your group rides, but if you can get there early or ride to the start, you might feel better when the peloton sprints out of the starting gate.
Metro
08-30-05, 09:36 AM
Here's a suggestion.
Try personal interval and tempo training to raise your overall speed at lower heartrates.
Try personal interval and tempo training to raise your overall speed at lower heartrates.
edmaverik
08-30-05, 10:17 AM
I'd agree with starting a warm up routine before the group ride. So get to the group ride earlier if you are driving there, say 30-45 minutes and go for a solo warm up ride or bring your trainer and warm up on it, but ideally get there early and warm up your legs. If possible, I usually always try to ride to the group ride and just ride tempo and keep all the legs for the group action.
'nother
08-30-05, 10:50 AM
Ride to the ride ++
Just got back from a group ride this morning where most of the people on the ride live near the start or drive to it. By contrast I ride about 5 miles to get there and by the time we start, I'm rarin' to go while everyone else is still "getting their legs".
If riding all the way to the ride is not an option, drive partway there, park a few miles out, and ride in.
Just got back from a group ride this morning where most of the people on the ride live near the start or drive to it. By contrast I ride about 5 miles to get there and by the time we start, I'm rarin' to go while everyone else is still "getting their legs".
If riding all the way to the ride is not an option, drive partway there, park a few miles out, and ride in.
JavaMan
08-30-05, 10:57 AM
Since you are riding alone anyway at the beginning, you could start the ride early and be warmed up by the time they catch up with you.
Portis
08-30-05, 04:10 PM
Keep in mind that some people are more oriented to distance over speed. Take track for expample. No matter how hard I trained I was never going to beat very many people in the 100 meter sprint. But put the same people against me in the two mile and we have a different story.
I am not built for speed, i am built for endurance. I am built like............well, a long distance runner. A general way to tell is by looking at the person's legs. If they are as big around as tree trunks and look chiseled out of stone, then they are going to be faster in the short run.
While someone who is thinner and lighter will start to exploit the competition on a long haul where those riders are carrying more weight and are built more for speed. Of course these are generalizations and not absolutes. I just wanted to point out that it is very hard to overcome the hand you are dealt. It's sort of like being ugly. There are things we can do to look better, like putting a bag over our heads, but most of us will never look like Brad Pitt. :D
I am not built for speed, i am built for endurance. I am built like............well, a long distance runner. A general way to tell is by looking at the person's legs. If they are as big around as tree trunks and look chiseled out of stone, then they are going to be faster in the short run.
While someone who is thinner and lighter will start to exploit the competition on a long haul where those riders are carrying more weight and are built more for speed. Of course these are generalizations and not absolutes. I just wanted to point out that it is very hard to overcome the hand you are dealt. It's sort of like being ugly. There are things we can do to look better, like putting a bag over our heads, but most of us will never look like Brad Pitt. :D
dannwilliams
08-31-05, 05:24 AM
Thanks for the input. I do ride to a couple miles to the start and have thought about stretching it out to 5-10 miles before getting there. I also feel like I can ride forever where others fatigue at 30-40 miles. I am 5'10" and 210 #'s, 43 years of age and this is my 2nd full summer of riding. I am vastly improved over last year and hope next year I improve fromthis year. I'll keep riding hard and enjoy the rides.