Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - My bike was stolen..... for 15-25 seconds.

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Jamtastic
09-07-05, 07:18 PM
Welp. i rode my conversion to class today just like always at uni of oklahoma. About 12:30 i had a two hour break so i decided to get a smoothy with some friends of mine on campus. I was only gonna be in the smoothie king for a minute so i left my bike unlocked/. I honestly have never heard of any bikes being stolen here.
anyway it was in plain site. The bike was in plain sight while i was standing in the longest line everrrr. Then my friend just kind of punches me and says" what the ****" and points. A little fella walks a circle around my bike then jumps on haha.
I suppose it was shock or somethin but bot of my friends were out the door before i even moved. We ran after him for about ohhhhhhh 15 ft. He had taken the first left turn and fallen on his face. haha. My friends held him down while i went and found campus cops.
I have no idea why he fell. Maybe pedal strike... but there were no marks on the pedals. Maybe he just genuinly slipped. I like to think he was bucked cause he tried to coast haha. Anyway he was a freshman named Jarrod. Hes only been at school 2 weeks. 2 weeks. I didnt press charges cause the university has a no tolerance policy and he is out for this semester. i figure his parents are gonna be harder on him than the fuzz. Plus when i got back with the cops his lip was busted. It wasnt before i left. so he learned his lesson i hope.
Thought i would share. I found it amusing at least. Made my day haha.
somnambulant
09-07-05, 07:29 PM
hahaha.. way to go chummmmmmmmmmmmmmP
*new*guy
09-07-05, 07:30 PM
'Twas noble of you to not press charges. I suggest you make him your b1tch for the next semester or so.
jet sanchEz
09-07-05, 07:50 PM
Meh, I woulda pressed charges...he is just going to do it again. Good that you caught him and yeah, I bet that he fell because he didn't realize that the bike was fixed.
Pressing charges in a situation like that is probably more trouble than its worth. Freshman kid at college for 2 weeks, best believe his parents are gonna lace into him. If hes stupid enough to do it again he may not get so lucky with the next person that catches him.
hyperRevue
09-07-05, 08:00 PM
I would have pressed charges too.
You're a much better man than I.
Stealing is so disgusting. That kid deserved whatever punishment the school saw fit.
xunwedsailorx
09-07-05, 08:01 PM
Fixed for the win. He tried to coast. Thought he would be cool like everyone else that has a nifty bike. Scrub.
What luck.
tink20seven
09-07-05, 08:05 PM
i second the idea of making him your personal b1tch the rest of the semester.
for not getting him arrested you owe him at least that many months of torment.
oh, and pull some strings to get his schedule.
suddenly everywhere he looks he'll see you.
oh god..
i wonder if he'll be back for spring
Jamtastic
09-07-05, 08:07 PM
i figured that getting expelled or suspended would be enough. even though its only for a semester it kind of permanently hurts him. He has to go through the application process again. So odds are he may not get to go to OU or any college again. What would a couple nights in jail do when your whole life might be ruined.
Oh and could trying to coast really buck you bad enough to knock you off.
ImOnCrank
09-07-05, 08:09 PM
Hope the ***** learned a lesson. STEALING IS MEAN ******BAG
Jamtastic
09-07-05, 08:12 PM
oh and another learned lesson. No matter where you are in the world. New York City or Norman,Ok . There are always thieves. So ill be locking up my bike even if im just inside for 5 minutes.
Greg Cardenas
09-07-05, 08:12 PM
Glad you got your bike back. My ex-brother in law once bragged to me about buying a stolen bike. I don't know the details of the story except that he gave it to a friend who raced and knew it was stolen. What scum.
BlueBrew
09-07-05, 08:26 PM
'Twas noble of you to not press charges. I suggest you make him your b1tch for the next semester or so.
hahaha i agree make him carry your books and stuff, haze him a little bit, and i agree stealing is for ******s i got all of my **** jacked, but thankfully not my bike.
jet sanchEz
09-07-05, 08:29 PM
Oh and could trying to coast really buck you bad enough to knock you off.
If you were not expecting it, yeah. What is the gear ratio? I understand your reasoning in not pressing charges, but I am guessing you have never had a bike stolen for real. It is a real violation and it sucks, I hope you never have to deal with it.
sloppy robot
09-07-05, 08:30 PM
oh i misread it... theres no b1tch makin' the kid is getting kicked out until january at the least.. youre right.. that seems fair
Jamtastic
09-07-05, 08:31 PM
im running 48 x 17 . i guess it was turn + fixed+ attemted coast+ shock= crash
steaktaco
09-08-05, 12:22 AM
im running 48 x 17 . i guess it was turn + fixed+ attemted coast+ shock= crash
yeah, especially if he locked his knees to coast, the upstroke would've kicked him off for sure.
once after a short climb, forgot I was on my fixed, stopped pedalling as soon as I hit the top, and the bike threw me off about a foot. good thing I was clipped — the girl thought I was showing off my bunnyhopping skills.
griffin_
09-08-05, 12:27 AM
if he is out for a semester i doubt he is gonna try a move like that again
i wouldn't have pressed charges
i wonder what he thought he might do with it anyway
are there many other fixie riders out there?
the first time i rode a fixed i almost got thrown off so thats noe big suprise
endform
09-08-05, 12:34 AM
I love justice, I hope that kid gets any more thats comin to him.
LóFarkas
09-08-05, 12:56 AM
once after a short climb, forgot I was on my fixed, stopped pedalling as soon as I hit the top, and the bike threw me off about a foot. good thing I was clipped — the girl thought I was showing off my bunnyhopping skills.
:roflmao: :lol: :roflmao: :lol: :roflmao: :lol: :roflmao:
bostontrevor
09-08-05, 07:56 AM
I once did that on a downhill just shy of 30 mph. I actually rode the front wheel for a good stretch before landing it and riding away with my heart in my throat.
Ha! Good one. Reminds me of when I was about 13 years old and some guy jumped on my 10-speed (leaning next to a window outside the room I was in at school) and took off.
The dolt was riding on grass toward woods. I was (and still am) an impressive sprinter, and was rapidly catching up to him (on foot) when he turned to see me. He dismounted, laid the bike down, and ran like mad.
I made some threatening comments, used harsh language, etc., picked up my bike, and went back to what I was doing, but threw the cable lock on it for good measure.
Jamtastic
09-08-05, 11:55 AM
if he is out for a semester i doubt he is gonna try a move like that again
i wouldn't have pressed charges
i wonder what he thought he might do with it anyway
are there many other fixie riders out there?
the first time i rode a fixed i almost got thrown off so thats noe big suprise
actually i thought about that. its a rarish picchio conversion with extremely elaborate lugs . I was curious what he was gonna do be one of the five people owning fixies that all know each other. If anyone saw him riding it the would have followed him anyway. ah well. alls well that ends well.
I joke about this kind of thing to everyone I talk to about riding fixed. This reminds me of those "bait cars" for car theives. I'd like to see a geared bike that has it's ratchet welded shut and it's deraileurs and brakes disconnected just left outside for some one to try and steal. You know, just leave it at a convenient store, walk in, and then when someone tries to take it, start running after them. hopefully they'll try and bike into traffic. What scum.
bostontrevor
09-08-05, 01:01 PM
You'd get charged because you intentionally created a dangerous situation in the hope that someone would come along and injure themselves. I can't think of the proper legal term at the moment.
wreckless endangerment? (no actual idea)
I wouldn't be surprised if it could get elevated to attempted manslaughter depending on the situation and the judge.
But it certainly makes for a good fantasy, I would love to see that. Lousy bike theives. Worse than the jerks that stole my shirts last weekend.
glad he mysteriously got a busted lip. justice or just us? anyhow, something to keep the memory of his transgression alive for a while.
Jamtastic
09-08-05, 02:54 PM
i didnt do it. i was looking for the campus cops. I never asked my friends cause i dont want to know. haha
bostontrevor
09-08-05, 04:16 PM
Reckless endangerment is when your actions put someone at risk though no accident actually occurs. I don't believe this is that. I think there's a special name for it, possibly latin as attorneys love to put on high falutin' airs.
muccapazza
09-08-05, 04:34 PM
Glad you got it back, it's a sick feeling discovering your ride has been misappropriated by some scumbag. By the way, is that the Italian burned job? I never found out if that was the one tyou went with or not.
Plinkerton
09-08-05, 07:37 PM
That's crazy man. Good thing about the busted lip. He deserves a severe beating.
Getting tossed out for a semester would be a drag, so that's cool that you didn't press charges, even though I'd be tempted.
Seriously, that would be hilarious, if you found his schedule, and just started seeing him everywhere, waving, smiling, and giving him a little "friendly" hello where ever he went.
Keep him on his toes for a while... :D
Jamtastic
09-08-05, 09:10 PM
Glad you got it back, it's a sick feeling discovering your ride has been misappropriated by some scumbag. By the way, is that the Italian burned job? I never found out if that was the one tyou went with or not.
yep that was it. but as of tomorrow ill be riding a pista frame so the picchio is just a frame now . I just took the parts off the conversion and put it onto the pista.
Eatadonut
09-08-05, 09:13 PM
JAMTASTIC. Holy crap. What a coincidence. I think I saw you the other day. I saw some dude riding a pista over by boyd street, and thought "he has a cap on. No bikers here wear caps. Or ride pistas."
Guess I was wrong.
-Dakas, from the SIN message boards.
Jamtastic
09-08-05, 09:18 PM
welp. couldnt have been me dakas. sorry. i havnt gotten mine yet. But tomorrow. but i do wear a cycling cap. an old campy one.
ImprezaDrvr
09-09-05, 09:45 AM
Holy ****, people here from Norman?! My hometown. Spent the summer there but thanks to camping gear couldn't take anything except the roadie. Glad to know that there are other fixie riders around there.
anarchocyclist
09-09-05, 10:12 AM
Holy crap, Window Rock?!
Enjoying the weather?
I had my bike stolen 4 weeks ago and haven't stopped seeing red.
I have fantasies about seeing some c*nt riding it and just pouncing on him. I have thought about the best way to whip him off the bike and get the jump on him. Granted, I'm not a big guy or a particularly tough guy but I've got some technique. Having my bike (which I loved very much) jacked was the most infuriating experience I can recall. I know it'll probably never happen, but I keep having these daydreams of beating the snot out of the bastard who stole my bike.
I also was praying to find him wiped out or hit by a car a block or so away from the scene of the crime. I really wouldn't feel bad if I saw this. In fact, I'd rather my bike get trashed in the process of (street) justice being served than it fall into the hands of a bike-stealing scumbag.
Anyone who has had a bike stolen can probably relate.
FlatTop
09-09-05, 06:18 PM
The "bait bike" idea sounds pretty good. I don't think it could be legally construed as an "attractive nuisance", since it is obviously property, and taking it is theft. Maybe you could make a case for it being performance art.
A nice application of silicone grease to the brakes/rims would be like adding a cherry to a parfait.
the 'bike bait' idea has been discussed here before, too. I think the best idea is to lock it up with a super-wimpy chain so that someone actually has to cut it free to steal it (even if they only are using scissors.) I feel that few courts would be able/willing to prosecute in that situation...after all, the thief had to go to the trouble of breaking the lock, least they could have done was inspect for vaseline on the rims.
red house
09-09-05, 11:00 PM
How about putting some super sticky epoxy type compound on the seat, deflating one of the tires...-then sit back and from comfortable distance watch the ensueing hilarity... AND (importantly) -remember to bring the camcorder so you can share
Aeroplane
09-10-05, 06:10 AM
You'd get charged because you intentionally created a dangerous situation in the hope that someone would come along and injure themselves. I can't think of the proper legal term at the moment.
Hate to derail, but that is f'ing sad. If somebody rides a ghetto-ass fixie, or improperly maintains a bike, and somebody gets hurt when they steal it, the original owner gets charged? Sounds like hogwash.
bostontrevor
09-10-05, 07:50 AM
No, it's sad when you're going out of your way to create something specifically with the intention that someone will come along and injure themselves. Thanks for the attractive nuisance reference, FlatTop, that's the term I was thinking of. As it turns out, it only applies to children, though it's also a much looser doctrine. It requires no intent, only awareness and negligence.
In this case, I think you could still find yourself in hot water because you created it solely with the intent to cause harm.
That's a very different thing than simply having a poorly maintained ride that happens to injure a thief.
Now proving it was the former and not the latter is a whole different thing.
Eatadonut
09-10-05, 07:58 AM
In this case, I think you could still find yourself in hot water because you created it solely with the intent to cause harm.
I don't know. As long as it's chained up, it's still your property and it's THEIR responsibility if they get hurt stealing it.
If I park my car in front of my house, and bleed the brake lines, I don't believe any jury in the world would convict me of assault if someone stole my car and then crashed it.
On the other hand, it has to be chained up. That's like the open pool laws - if I don't have a gate around my pool, and a kid from across the street jumps in and drowns, I'm in trouble.
bostontrevor
09-10-05, 08:14 AM
I'd like to see a geared bike that has it's ratchet welded shut and it's deraileurs and brakes disconnected just left outside for some one to try and steal. You know, just leave it at a convenient store, walk in, and then when someone tries to take it, start running after them. hopefully they'll try and bike into traffic.
That's when I made my point. It doesn't sound so innocent to me.
If you parked your car at the top of a hill, bled the brake lines, and left the doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition, you can be sure that some attorney is going to question your motives for doing such an utterly strange thing. You'd better be prepared with a good explanation.
If the lawyer can convince a jury that no potential for injury existed without your malicious intent, you might be in trouble.
2manybikes
09-10-05, 08:58 AM
That's when I made my point. It doesn't sound so innocent to me.
If you parked your car at the top of a hill, bled the brake lines, and left the doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition, you can be sure that some attorney is going to question your motives for doing such an utterly strange thing. You'd better be prepared with a good explanation.
If the lawyer can convince a jury that no potential for injury existed without your malicious intent, you might be in trouble.
Possibly "entrapment" is the word. And I think that is also what that would be. I agree with you, one can't set a "trap" and just leave it.
bostontrevor
09-10-05, 09:17 AM
I don't think its entrapment. For one thing, I'm pretty sure entrapment requires that you be an officer of the law. Further, I don't see that there's any sort of persuasion to commit the crime, rather it's simply being made available for someone with criminal intent of their own.
It's the fact that it was done so with malicious intent. It would be like if someone tried to purchase Vicodin from you and you intentionally sold them rat poison instead. If they took it and died, you're going to have to defend yourself. Simply saying, "well they were the one trying to break the law" isn't going to hack it. You were aiding their commission of said crime and acting to injure them in the process.
Eatadonut
09-10-05, 09:26 AM
It's the fact that it was done so with malicious intent. It would be like if someone tried to purchase Vicodin from you and you intentionally sold them rat poison instead. If they took it and died, you're going to have to defend yourself. Simply saying, "well they were the one trying to break the law" isn't going to hack it. You were aiding their commission of said crime and acting to injure them in the process.
Yes, but if you keep a vicodin bottle in your room in your house full of rat poison, they break in and take some, how is that wrong? the fact is they are choosing to take it, it's not being offered.
bostontrevor
09-10-05, 09:28 AM
Yeah, but the original suggestion was that a dangerously rigged bike be left in a dangerous place, unlocked, with the intention that the person injure themselves. Reading is fundamental.
Aeroplane
09-10-05, 10:15 AM
In this case, I think you could still find yourself in hot water because you created it solely with the intent to cause harm.
That's a very different thing than simply having a poorly maintained ride that happens to injure a thief.
Now proving it was the former and not the latter is a whole different thing.
Exactly. What's the difference between the dude who does it with malicious intent, and guy who just has dummy levers on a brakeless bike? Not a lot. And I would hope that in situations where a charge like this is so dubious, they would err on the side of punishing the person who definitely intended to break the law, i.e., the thief.
On the other hand, if you have the brakeless bike and a camera set up to capture it, that could hurt your case...
2manybikes
09-10-05, 10:33 AM
I don't think its entrapment. For one thing, I'm pretty sure entrapment requires that you be an officer of the law. Further, I don't see that there's any sort of persuasion to commit the crime, rather it's simply being made available for someone with criminal intent of their own.
It's the fact that it was done so with malicious intent. It would be like if someone tried to purchase Vicodin from you and you intentionally sold them rat poison instead. If they took it and died, you're going to have to defend yourself. Simply saying, "well they were the one trying to break the law" isn't going to hack it. You were aiding their commission of said crime and acting to injure them in the process.
You could be right, I don't know. The part about being an officer of the law sounds familiar now that you mention it.
My answer is this, It's pretty nice out right now. Hope you get in a ride today, I'm going now. :)
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