Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - So the 2006 pista...

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Jamtastic
09-13-05, 12:41 PM
i just picked mine up and had a few questions my lbs didnt realy know. BTW. if you get a chrome 2006 the saddle is no longer chrome. its just black. if you get the green it comes with a leapord and black one. anywho.
it doesnt come with sugino cranks anymore but with Truvativ touro. are these decent and how do they compare to the sugino...it also comes with a stem that when flipped actually has negative drop. and it comes with the nastiest pedals ever. terrible.
most of the decals are still clearcoated as usual. haha. the chainline is actually very nice stock... i opted for the 48x18 . overall im pleased for the price i got... which is a benefit of doing computer work for the LBS haha. just letting people know about the new stuff and asking about the cranks.
jayrooney
09-13-05, 12:51 PM
did you get the chrome or green? is the fork still 1" unicrown? pics?
the cranks are about the same in quality. they're both low end aluminum square taper cranks, nothing special.
carleton
09-13-05, 12:53 PM
pics please.
eddiebrannan
09-13-05, 01:30 PM
why isn't this on the bianchi site?
ps when i switched parts of my old frame i left the sugino cranks on the other frame because i didn't want to go to the length of pulling cranks and removing bbs, but now i wish i had. i don't like the look of the truvativs and the chainline is noisy
xunwedsailorx
09-13-05, 01:42 PM
whoa... just ordered the 06. I need pics please jamtastic. please.
p.s. my local bike shop. totally giving me the 05 price at $540. :D
baxtefer
09-13-05, 02:33 PM
Pics!
and uhh, previous pistas didn't come with Suginos. They've all been Truvativ touros or generic Bianchi labled cranks.
You must be thinking of last year's Pista Concept.
sameness
09-13-05, 02:38 PM
Pics!
and uhh, previous pistas didn't come with Suginos. They've all been Truvativ touros or generic Bianchi labled cranks.
You must be thinking of last year's Pista Concept.
Every '05 Pista I've seen came stock with Suginos (RDs, if memory serves), including but not limited to the one sitting in my garage.
jayrooney
09-13-05, 02:44 PM
yeah '01 and '02 had bianchi cyclone, '03 and '04 were truvativ, '05 was sugino rd, and now in '06 they're back to truvative, are they isis splined?
baxtefer
09-13-05, 02:53 PM
oh, oops. i thought they were truvativ's. and that you were referring to the sugino 75's.
To me there's no real difference among the 3. but then again I've never ridden any of them
Roy's in Bklyn had the best price I've seen so far on the "05 Pista - $499ish, and that was WITH a front brake. - the lowest I found in Manhattan was $540 without brake. The same day I was going to go pick one up, I found KHS on Craigslist.
I have never dealt with Roy's before, however they seem to run a great shop...they have some serious frames.
Jamtastic
09-13-05, 03:48 PM
im gonna piss alot of people off but i dont have a camera. soonest i can get pics is friday and i guarentee they will be up then. ...
i really dont understand why bianchis site is so far behind what they actually sell.
BTW. anyone havean extra set of clear champ grips.
roscoenyc57
09-13-05, 04:55 PM
Roy's in Bklyn had the best price I've seen so far on the "05 Pista - $499ish, and that was WITH a front brake. - the lowest I found in Manhattan was $540 without brake. The same day I was going to go pick one up, I found KHS on Craigslist.
I have never dealt with Roy's before, however they seem to run a great shop...they have some serious frames.
where is Roy's? Are they new?
The 03 came with Truvativs, and they're ISIS, not squaret-tapered. I found this out when I tried to overhaul the BB on it recently and discovered that my crank-puller (which works fine on the crappy Nishiki single speed I built myself) isn't going to cut it with an ISIS crank. I thought I was going to have to get a second crank puller, but the mechanic at the LBS gave me a little nugget (about the size of four or five pennies stacked) that shimano used to make so that their higher-end ISIS crank systems (like what you find on the nicer road bike groups) could be pulled with a regular crank puller (this, the mechanic said, was back in the day before Park, et al were making two separate crank pullers). Anyway, the little nugget works like a charm. Out with the BB, in with the grease. Life is good. The pista is a gem.
BTW: I'm glad they went away from the chrome seat. I always felt sorry for the guys I saw riding around on the newer pista's. You can rat one of those out all you want -- tape, tubes wrapped around, etc. -- but it's still a pista, clear as day with that shiny seat. Nevermind that no amount of ratting makes a chrome frame any less conspicuous. But that's just my taste, and I'm certainly not hating.
PEace.
EnLaCalle
09-14-05, 10:16 AM
I'm pretty sure the Roy's he's talking about is way down in Sheepshead Bay, 2679 Coney Island Ave. I've only passed en route to Coney Island. I've only heard good things though. It's not new.
So is the deal that you can get the 06 in either chrome or green? That's what I seem to be hearing... or is it that you can obviously still get the chrome 05's that are still in stock, but after those are sold, only green?
eddiebrannan
09-14-05, 10:29 AM
yeah and what kind of green are we talking, celeste?
xunwedsailorx
09-14-05, 11:20 AM
06 comes in chrome. I didn't know what the green looked like on the 06 model, so I got chrome instead.
mascher
09-14-05, 11:27 AM
Can it be? I love that this looks like a conversion of a 70s bike! Check out the part spec, same...
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/trycycle/419793/527128/657689/
junioroverlord
09-14-05, 11:32 AM
Celeste makes me want to vomit.
xunwedsailorx
09-14-05, 11:42 AM
Can it be? I love that this looks like a conversion of a 70s bike! Check out the part spec, same...
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/trycycle/419793/527128/657689/
That's a japan exclusive. Came up in another thread awhile back. I don't think that's the new pista.
[QUOTE=EnLaCalle]I'm pretty sure the Roy's he's talking about is way down in Sheepshead Bay, 2679 Coney Island Ave. I've only passed en route to Coney Island.
That is correct.
Ken Cox
09-14-05, 05:06 PM
I like the color celeste.
It seems to me it has changed several times over the years.
Sometimes it looks a little like turquoise and at other times it looks like pistachio.
I'd like to know if Bianchi has maintained celeste as a constant, unchanging color, or if their marketing and manufacturing people have "adjusted" it.
Strange color.
South Fulcrum
09-16-05, 02:46 PM
im gonna piss alot of people off but i dont have a camera. soonest i can get pics is friday and i guarentee they will be up then. ...
Dude, it's Friday.
xunwedsailorx
09-16-05, 02:58 PM
I Know. I Need Pics.
andrew young
09-16-05, 03:14 PM
i just picked mine up and had a few questions my lbs didnt realy know. BTW. if you get a chrome 2006 the saddle is no longer chrome. its just black. if you get the green it comes with a leapord and black one. anywho.
it doesnt come with sugino cranks anymore but with Truvativ touro. are these decent and how do they compare to the sugino...it also comes with a stem that when flipped actually has negative drop. and it comes with the nastiest pedals ever. terrible.
most of the decals are still clearcoated as usual. haha. the chainline is actually very nice stock... i opted for the 48x18 . overall im pleased for the price i got... which is a benefit of doing computer work for the LBS haha. just letting people know about the new stuff and asking about the cranks.
I definitely would like to see it when it's ready, I'm still loving my '04 Pista, but like I said in another post, just got a Steamroller frame and the only thing I really need now is a wheelset, which I might take from the Pista. White Velocity rims with some 700x23c Gators. Not so sure yet......
They also have Surly track hubs with a 14t cog on the rear.
Serpico
09-17-05, 03:15 PM
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i really dont understand why bianchis site is so far behind what they actually sell.
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because it's september '05, shops would have trouble clearing their '05 inventory if everyone came in wanting "What's on Bianchi's site"
eat_raw
09-17-05, 04:35 PM
Roy's in Bklyn had the best price I've seen so far on the "05 Pista - $499ish, and that was WITH a front brake. - the lowest I found in Manhattan was $540 without brake. The same day I was going to go pick one up, I found KHS on Craigslist.
I have never dealt with Roy's before, however they seem to run a great shop...they have some serious frames.
Mike at Bicycle Station can beat Roy's price.
Cheapest that I found (not that I bought one).
South Fulcrum
09-17-05, 07:05 PM
im gonna piss alot of people off but i dont have a camera. soonest i can get pics is friday and i guarentee they will be up then. ...
Dude, it's Saturday night. WTF?
hypersnazz
09-17-05, 07:27 PM
The BB isn't actually ISIS, at least not on the one I just built up for our shop; it's some weird 'power spline' thing I've never seen before, narrower spindle diameter like square taper but splined like ISIS. It used the same crank arm bolts and puller as square taper, which is what caught my eye right away. My guess is this is so the bearings are larger and last longer. And apparently for '06 it does come with a front brake, but only one lever. Thanks, Bianchi. :P
xunwedsailorx
09-17-05, 08:28 PM
I think Bianchi reads these forums. They just re-did their entire website and I can't find the pista anymore. :\
South Fulcrum
09-17-05, 08:44 PM
I think Bianchi reads these forums. They just re-did their entire website and I can't find the pista anymore. :\
Really? It all looks the same to me.
P.S.
Yes, I hit reload.
Jamtastic
09-17-05, 09:03 PM
im sorry. I dont have a digicam anymore cause i gave it to my gf. anywho she forgot to bring it this weekend to my apartment and she lives wuite a ways away. im just gonna borrow a buddy's sometime this week. im off to watch sin city.
andrew young
09-17-05, 11:20 PM
Hey Jam,
The tires we were talking about, thinking about putting them on the Pista?
Jamtastic
09-18-05, 10:49 AM
yeah...
eddiebrannan
09-19-05, 08:36 AM
so what kind of green is it jamtastic?
i finally gave up the craigslist/ebay hunt for a small fixie for my wife. I bought her a pista, the 06, last night. I'll post a picture for you guys this evening :)
xunwedsailorx
09-19-05, 08:54 AM
I will do the same if jonb doesn't come through. Mine should be here today or tomorrow.
eddiebrannan
09-19-05, 08:56 AM
can anyone tell me what kind of green it is? i'd really like to know :)
xunwedsailorx
09-19-05, 08:57 AM
Supposedly celeste. That's Bianchi's new big push. CELESTE WOOT!
eyefloater
09-19-05, 09:07 AM
http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/f1/9e/78_1_b.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.it/ANTEPRIMA-2006-TELAIO-BIANCHI-D2-PISTA-CRONO-CARBON_W0QQitemZ7182738548QQcategoryZ7297QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
Eddie, it isn't Celeste. The best I can do is tell you that its very similiar to the EAI Bareknuckle/Nessuno pale green. It isn't celeste and it isn't olive or army green or kelly green. Just a kind of Vintage faded/soft green.
What the heck has Bianchi done to their site? I tried to find a pic of the new pista, but all I could find were pages filled with mumbo jumbo like this:
"The scream of true bikers.
What distinguishes the scream of the Similaun mummy from the successes of MTB Team Bianchi Agos and its captain Julien Absalon, recently reconfirmed World Champion?
Nothing, they both last over times and their echo resounds everywhere.
Oetzi, Mutt, Doss, life-long as the legend which shaped them. "
WTF? I'll just wait for you guys to post pics.
onlythebest
09-19-05, 12:02 PM
can someone give wheelset details? i heard they have alex rims and DB spokes, is that true?
Jamtastic
09-19-05, 12:40 PM
yes taht is true. and the same bianchi high flange hubs.
baxtefer
09-19-05, 03:13 PM
http://i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/04/f1/9e/78_1_b.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.it/ANTEPRIMA-2006-TELAIO-BIANCHI-D2-PISTA-CRONO-CARBON_W0QQitemZ7182738548QQcategoryZ7297QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
that's hot. gimme.
isotopesope
09-19-05, 03:49 PM
it better not be celeste. that should only be on italian bianchi's... not their garbage bianchi-san taiwanese robot tig-welded horse crap.
eyefloater
09-19-05, 04:07 PM
it better not be celeste. that should only be on italian bianchi's... not their garbage bianchi-san taiwanese robot tig-welded horse crap.
Isotopesope, do you know what year Bianchi stopped manufacturing frames in Italy? I've heard this too, but never when exactly the change took place.
eddiebrannan
09-19-05, 04:09 PM
it better not be celeste. that should only be on italian bianchi's... not their garbage bianchi-san taiwanese robot tig-welded horse crap.
way to go! i can't wait til i can afford a really nice expensive frame so that i can insult and demean the bikes other people get tons of pleasure out of
xunwedsailorx
09-19-05, 04:11 PM
eddiebrannan ftw. Thank you.
All the reparto corse frames are still made in Italy. The Pista Concept isn't, but it's still celeste.
Anybody ever seen the reparto corse D2 Pista? It looked pretty sharp. It was only sold as a frameset, and, evidently, only outside north america. It was on the main bianchi site (not bianchiusa) as a 2005 frame until they changed it very recently. Now I see that there will be a D2 Aluminum Pista and a D2 carbon Pista.
so, anyone get pictures yet?
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