Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - anybody familiar with NYC's bargain track wheel?

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mattface
10-02-05, 11:30 AM
I'm trying to put this conversion together from an old italian 10 speed that was leaning against my garage. Originally I just intended to use everything but the rear wheel from the old bike, but as most of you are probably aware things like this tend to snowball. with a new crank, bottom bracket, chain, cog, lockring, and other miscelaneous hardware and tools I could wind up easily spending $300 to build this thing up with cheap parts and a decent rear wheel. Then what would I have? a cheap crappy fixed gear bike with a decent rear wheel. to be fair the front wheel is very nice. an old Fiamme with wire wrapped soldered spokes, and some sort of a high flange hub that feels very smooth. BUT if I was gonna spend real money I could probably buy a cheap new track bike off ebay with parts at least as good as the old stuff I'm scrounging up.

SO I find myself looking seriously at NYCBikes barggain track wheel. for $60 I'd wind up with a CRP (does that stand for crap?) flipflop hub, and Alex rim along with a 16 tooth cog, and lock ring. OTOH I could buy a $100 wheel that would be a much better wheel, but I would also need a $25 cog, and $8 lockring, so I can save $80 buying the CRP from NYCBikes. That puts the overall project within the realm of the acceptable. Now I've heard many people don't like NYCBikes, but I can't figure out another way to keep the costs of this project down. I've thought about building my own wheel, but say I pay $45 for a hub, and 25 for a rim, and $20 on spokes, we're talking about $90 just for parts. Lockring and Hub still needed.

Anyway. I really would like to use the Formula hub, and a better cog, but this gets it built, gets me on the road riding fixed. Obviously I'm struggling with the justification here, because I can't afford to build this bike the way I want. So I'm looking for input specifically from people who've used this NYC's Bargain track wheel, or of course from someone who has another idea where I might find another affordable option.

Also does anyone know what size chain the cog that comes with that wheel uses? I don't know if I'm looking for 1/8" or 3/32" chain


YellowFixedGear
10-02-05, 12:08 PM
id say spend the money and get thier velocity rims or sun rims with the formula hub. Its a little bit more but will last longer.

jouissant
10-02-05, 12:18 PM
I just finished my first conversion, and you are most definitely right in saying that these things tend to snowball! Going into this, a crank was a crank was a crank, etc. and now I'm drooling over bike parts on eBay every chance I get. Anyway, I ended up buying a new wheelset (Alex rims and what I'm pretty sure are the crappiest hubs Suzue makes) from BensBike on eBay and a cog and lockring from Harris Cyclery. The wheelset was $140. I thought about springing for nicer wheels but this setup was what my budget would allow. I agree with YellowFixedGear above that a little more cash up front definitely gets you a better, more durable product and I'm sure I'll be wanting to upgrade at some point but for now, as you said, I'm on the road riding fixed, and that's what I was after.
Ben's was great to deal with, and they are an actual shop as opposed to just an eBay seller. I didn't need to call them but from what I've heard they are very helpful over the phone too, so they might be another option for you to check out.


baxtefer
10-02-05, 12:34 PM
save yourself a huge headache and get decent wheels to start with.
The crap (CRP) hub + the cheap stamped cog is a stripped hub waiting to happen.
i'd even say you'd be better off with Suzue basics.

Yeah, Ben's is good too.

rykoala
10-02-05, 12:48 PM
Buy a better wheel. Check out what IRO http://www.irocycle.com sells. Tony's closed down right now but when he's back he has great deals on good wheels with good hubs (rebranded Formula's) and Velocity wheels. Yes the wheel will be the nices part of the conversion, but its also the most important. And, if you decide to get something better, you'll have a nice wheel you can use for it. Or if you don't like fixed gear at all, and you want, you can resell it and get a good portion of your money out of it.

fullnelson
10-02-05, 01:13 PM
I bought a Bargain track wheel about three months ago for my beater fixed gear that I ride to class/the grocery store/anywhere really. When I got it, the bearings needed to be regreased which is a pain in the ass for a new wheel. Also the cog and lockring never came, I called them twice and then gave up because the cog that should come with it was 1/8" and I'm, running 3/32" and I had a surly lockring that I bummed off of a friend. If your on a budget it works, but if you've got the cash, spend it on a nicer wheel(set). Btw, mine didn't come with an Alex rim, it came with a super wide (don't remember the measurement of the top of my head) no namer. It did come with a Suzue high flange hub though....

tall_animals
10-02-05, 03:57 PM
the reason why that wheel is so cheap is because it is a really crappy wheel. it will break on you and end up costing you way more in the long run. i got a crappy back wheel from my first fixed gear conversion and the bearings ended up getting all screwed up and causing the whole axl to freeze up. it froze so bad that it was unable to be fixed and i had to get a new hub. including the crappy wheel, the new hub and the labor to fix it after it broke, the whole thing ended up costing way more than a decent wheel would have cost me in the first place. so in conclusion get a good wheel, it is worth it.
try looking at spicercycles.com he is really nice and has some really good stuff for reasonable prices.

boots
10-02-05, 05:36 PM
dunno if you're in nyc but dixon's on union in brooklyn sells a $60 fixed rear wheel that a lot of messengers use for work. never used one myself, but a people seem to like them enough. jalco deepv rim, not sure about the hub (or if it comes with a cog)

mattface
10-02-05, 05:55 PM
that sounds like just the thing boots.

I want it to be durable, but it doesn't need to be pretty, or fancy. This bke is all about getting the job done. If I fall in love with fixed gear riding I might build up something fancier next year, but I'm likely to keep this bike running. It's nice to have a beater I can ride anywhere and not have to worry about it. I don't even lock my 10 speed beater.

I'm not in New York though. I'm about 4 hours north of there. That's by car. It would take significantly longer than that by bike.

Anyway do you have contact info for dixons?

mattface
10-02-05, 05:58 PM
never mind I googled the info in less time thann it took me to compose my last reply to this thread.

Dixon's Bicycle Shop
(718) 636-0067 792 Union St
Brooklyn, NY

if anyone else is interested