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carless
10-06-05, 01:14 PM
I enjoy the interaction on the Forum and I often use this as a resource. I don't agree with some people, but that would be boring anyway.
I am currently speeding along at 30-40 seconds a click. When I sign in, view a thread, and reply. I have read some other threads and replies that deal with this, but no real definitive statements.
Could you explain why it is slow? Please no techie terms.
Could you explain how much it would cost. No breakdown, just a round dollar figure.
Can you explain the geographical location of the equipment? Not an address, maybe a state or country?
Can you tell us how many people are employed by BikeForums.net, is it just a one person part time job or the sole income for a family?
I apoligize for the personal questions. I envision this forum with a much larger capacity, a reliable back up and minimal maintenance. I think the members would help in a variety of ways to improve it. We have no shortage of qualified people in diverse locations.
Give us some ideas.


operator
10-06-05, 02:56 PM
It's slow because there are too many people loading bikeforums at the same time. And joe hasn't put up the new server yet. Look at the bottom of the main page and see how many people are logged on.

Maelstrom
10-06-05, 08:33 PM
The issue is pure server. It will happen. There is only one person at the physical location to do the upgrade and he is only arround periodically. Like I explained last time he did try to upgrade but the database failed forcing him to go back to the old server. Thats a big problem and things need to be done before it is attempted again.

Also, as explained previously, 30 seconds sounds nuts. Site is slow, but 4 second, maybe 5. It does sound like you have a route somewhere in the route of the packets that might be causing congestion. Try doing a traceroute and see where the congestion is. BTW this has nothing to do with bandwidth. You can have a 10meg pipe with one bad hop that could slow down your visible connection to nothing.

Maelstrom
Admin


carless
10-06-05, 10:33 PM
Site is slow, but 4 second, maybe 5. It does sound like you have a route somewhere in the route of the packets that might be causing congestion. Try doing a traceroute and see where the congestion is. BTW this has nothing to do with bandwidth. You can have a 10meg pipe with one bad hop that could slow down your visible connection to nothing.

Maelstrom
Admin
I'm not sure what I'm looking at, can you explain this to me?

Maelstrom
10-06-05, 11:22 PM
Each spot is a hop through the internet to the site (this site) you are routing to. Each time lapse is the time it takes for that protocol to transfer through that hop. Some hops take more time (slow servers, data checks or just crap service) and some are fast.

You have 370ms average time in total hops. which is 26 ms per hop with what looks like 3 unknown hops. You have several close to 70ms.

I have 200ms with no empty hops to the firewall at the server. Which is 16ms per hop with each hop registering. My slowest hop was 20ms.

While nothing is exceptionally slow (I have seen bad hops slow connections down to 2000ms) you do have some questionable hops.

Anyways that kind of gives you a feel for how long it is taking for you to speak with bikeforums. Sounds like, bikeforums is slow, and so is some of the connections coming to bikeforums. No excuses, bikeforums needs and is getting an upgrade, but you don't exactly have a high speed connection DIRECTLY to bikeforums. Someone, somewhere is slowing you down :) Slower server + questionable routing = holy crap my internet sucks today :D

carless
10-07-05, 12:11 AM
Better program. Thanks for the info + FYI
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Maelstrom
10-07-05, 12:48 AM
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| 2 | | 205.234.111.17 | r01.iad.defenderhosting.com | ?Ashburn, VA, USA | -05:00 | 24 | -x-------- | Defender Technologies Group, LLC DEFENDER-1 |
| 3 | | 63.218.94.5 | ge9-11.br02.ash01.pccwbtn.net | Ashburn, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Beyond The Network America, Inc. BTN-CIDR5 |
| 4 | | 63.218.94.30 | glbx.ge10-13.br02.ash01.pccwbtn.net | Ashburn, VA, USA | -05:00 | 0 | x | Beyond The Network America, Inc. BTN-CIDR5 |
| 5 | | 208.49.147.158 | ip-208.49.147.158.gblx.net | ?Phoenix, AZ, USA | -07:00 | 35 | x | Global Crossing GBLX-6C |
| 6 | | 70.85.127.29 | vl31.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com | Dallas, TX, USA | | 35 | x | ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc. NETBLK-THEPLANET-BLK-13 |
| 7 | | 70.85.127.83 | dist-vlan41.dsr2-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com | Dallas, TX, USA | | 35 | x | ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc. NETBLK-THEPLANET-BLK-13 |
| 8 | | 67.18.116.69 | gig1-0-1.tp-car9-1.dllstx4.theplanet.com | Dallas, TX, USA | | 35 | x | ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc. NETBLK-THEPLANET-BLK-11 |
| 9 | | 67.19.182.78 | www.bikeforums.net | ?Dallas, TX, USA | | 35 | x | ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc. NETBLK-THEPLANET-BLK-11 |
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Using that same program, thats what I got.

BTW...funky program. That would be a great way to explain it to clients :) Wonders of the internet, I am physically further away. :D