Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Don Walker Handmade Bike Show Spoke Card

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eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 09:30 AM
well i'm down to design something for don's convention if you all are.

let's make this the sign-up/input thread, and as i said in the other thread i'll be glad to corral all of the cards onto master sheets to facilitate printing/laminating.

SIZE:
i suggest 4" x 5" (standard postcard size) as that way you could get them 4-up on a sheet of us letter. is that too big?

COLOR:
i suggest b&w art as you can print it cheaper and it should be just as effective on colored paper.
if anyone else has any ideas put em up here and let's settle on a final size so we're all consistent.

TEXT:
here's the copy as it stands.
[b]The 2nd Annual North American Handmade Bicycle Show
March 3rd, 4th and 5th, 2006
San Jose Convention Center, South Hall
see the bicycles your dreams are made of...[b]
I suggest adding San Jose, CA
thoughts?


Once all is agreed we can get busy.


tink20seven
10-17-05, 09:38 AM
for what it's worth,
i saw this thread and thought you were done already.
after seing your portfolio, what can i say, i was kinda looking forward to seing what you came up with.

patience tink patience

absntr
10-17-05, 09:41 AM
I sort of want to, but man I'm already tied up with two clients, a trunk show that I'm designing all print collateral for AND doing all the print collateral (including three editions of spokecards) for the BFFG.

Maybe I'll sneak this one in...

I'm looking forward to see what folkd come up with though.


eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 09:53 AM
so absntr what size are the spokecards that you're doing? do you have "standard" that you use?

ch0mb0
10-17-05, 09:57 AM
why dontcha use the template in the swap thread?

mattface
10-17-05, 09:59 AM
Might I suggest a "hand lugged" spoke card?

Seriously, cut out a lugwork pattern on card stock, and paste it on top of the card around the borders before laminating. that way you have a 3-d ridged effect. could do 2 ends, or a headtube style lug around the entire border.

Would be more work of course, but after all this is the "Hand Made Bicycle Show" Not the "Kinkos Copy™ Bicycle Show"

eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 10:06 AM
why dontcha use the template in the swap thread?


which thread?

ch0mb0
10-17-05, 10:15 AM
which thread?


Seekrit Santa. Click here (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=145843), it's in the first post. good luck!

wangster
10-17-05, 10:23 AM
postcard size seems a bit big. perhaps something smaller and if people wants to 'customize' the card that'd be cool, as long as it's within the size perimeter. Remember though, you'd have to cut all those lugs out so it'll be a ***** to Don who'd have it printed and cut so in keeping with the spirit of don's lugs, lets keep it simple and more 'form follows function.' Just my two.

eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 10:34 AM
Seekrit Santa. Click here (http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=145843), it's in the first post. good luck!


4.25" x 5.5 is a quarter of us letter. if you printed 4-up and laminated the entire sheet you wouldn't have cut space between cards. two of the edges would not be sealed. that's why i suggested slightly smaller

absntr
10-17-05, 10:51 AM
I'm doing 4 cards a letter sized sheet. That's usually what the larger spokecards go at and are most common. Smaller ones are business card size but they don't fit well in the spokes.

You want a 4x5.

absntr
10-17-05, 11:59 AM
Spoke it:

http://dcc.absenter.org/foto/misc/nahbs_spokecard.gif

chimblysweep
10-17-05, 12:47 PM
absntr, you're supergood at that. nice work.

eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 12:51 PM
quick effort

ostro
10-17-05, 01:03 PM
2006!!!

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 01:06 PM
is "see the bicycles your dreams are made of" proper grammar? seems to be missing "that" or something?

eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 01:09 PM
tweaked

absntr
10-17-05, 01:09 PM
Yes, 2006.

I actually was thinking the same thing about the phrase, when I read it this morning, it seemed odd. "That" would read better.

"See the bicycles that your dreams are made of"

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 01:11 PM
im sorry to be a stickler, it does sound better now. it sort of flows a bit more, no? another little thing that might just be my overanalyzation of a simple little phrase, but if you've already dreamt about the bikes isn't it true then that you've already "seen" them in some respects? i don't mean to knock the phrase and i'm sure it's just me that finds nitpicky little things like that. just throwing it out there.

absntr
10-17-05, 01:16 PM
The "bird" can be changed. Not an issue.

I'll switch up the tagline too in a bit.

absntr
10-17-05, 01:17 PM
However, I did want to say this: the "bird" is sort of a rebellious thing I suppose, sort of a F! to the mass-produced markets, which is my take on it.

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 01:29 PM
im thinking theres a concise and short way of showing how the bicycles that one will see at the show will be the materialization of the bicycles that one has seen in a dream. im beating my head against the wall though coming up with a tagline for it that is 10 or 12 words long... tough copy to play with!

bikes = made of dreams / made by hand.. some clever wordplay is needed however i'm at a loss right now.

absntr
10-17-05, 01:33 PM
and thats cool, but again, i am unsure if that should be on an official document...afterall, we have NO clue who will see these, and I dont want anyone to be offended. Just looking out for the best interests of the show.
Yeah, i can see where "that" fits in better for the tag line...i am totally open for suggestions...

Thanks again!

DW

No biggie. As someone who makes things pretty for a living, I'm more than used to design iterations anc changes.

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 01:42 PM
your dream machines fabricated by hand into reality
??? something like that?

DW

yeah, something like that. "your dreams handmade into reality" or "your dream bike hand made into reality" or something along those lines sounds nice. i like that it is "your" dream that is being made by hand into reality, this conveys the fact that a handmade custom bike is built to the riders specs, which is what makes the things so special. its a person's exact dream made into an actual object.

FixednotBroken
10-17-05, 01:57 PM
hmmmm.... "the dreams [that] bicycles are made of"? (just a simple turn of phrase, but somewhat interesting)

i'm really impressed what you guys have come up with on short notice - it's always fun to see imagination at work. it's funny, because i do something similar with sound... so for me to design (sound effects/mix etc.), it's no big deal, but when i watch someone create in a medium in which i'm completely out of my depth, i'm in awe. well done, doods.

eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 02:03 PM
dreams are (hand)made of this

eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 02:05 PM
nothing beats a handjob ;)

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 02:09 PM
the bicycle of your dreams; made by hand
bicycle = dream + steel + hands
the bicycle that dreams are made of; by hand

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 02:12 PM
one question, absentr mentioned that he sends a bottle of scotch to the client upon completing the project.. don has also mentioned something to this effect. so when the spoke card is done, who sends scotch to who? and how do i get my two shots of it for contributing at least a little bit to the catch phrase? :)

absntr
10-17-05, 02:14 PM
You could go for real simple and just do:

"Dreams, handmade."

OR

"Your dreams, handmade."

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 02:16 PM
exactly. wittle out all those useless pronouns and useless words. its so much cleaner like that. having the "your" in there is super important, i think.

*new*guy
10-17-05, 02:22 PM
In typical art director fashion, I will add the following. Seeing that it is a handmade bicycle show, it would seem logical to create the art by hand and perhaps scan and manipulate it... adding color and texture on top of the initial handmade layout.

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 02:22 PM
i'll be sure to accept the shots for everyone that has helped but wont be attending.

ostro
10-17-05, 02:38 PM
here is my attempt (http://poets.sfsu.edu/kamiltest/nahbs_kw.pdf)

HelluvaStella
10-17-05, 02:39 PM
one question, absentr mentioned that he sends a bottle of scotch to the client upon completing the project.. don has also mentioned something to this effect. so when the spoke card is done, who sends scotch to who? and how do i get my two shots of it for contributing at least a little bit to the catch phrase? :)


Who sends the scotch to whom?

Haha. OK, I'm sorry.

eddiebrannan
10-17-05, 02:44 PM
here is my attempt (http://poets.sfsu.edu/kamiltest/nahbs_kw.pdf)


i get a blank pdf when i click your link ostro

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 02:47 PM
Who sends the scotch to whom?

Haha. OK, I'm sorry.

i know, i was agonizing over that after it was posted but didnt feel like going back to edit. also, absntr instead of absentr... woopsy! hey, thats what we got editors for right?

adamkell
10-17-05, 03:00 PM
i can see it, but drac_vamp's head might explode when he sees the preposition ending your tag line.

edit: er, nevermind... too slow.

ostro
10-17-05, 03:01 PM
try again.

drac_vamp
10-17-05, 03:05 PM
[QUOTE=adamkell]drac_vamp's head might explode when he sees the preposition ending your tag line.
QUOTE]

just a minor eruption this time. "of which dreams are made".

"and to whom does one send the scotch?" :)

HereNT
10-17-05, 03:15 PM
Hopefully I'll have some time to work on this tonight at work... I can totally print them up in color, too, but can't laminate them...

Jose R
10-17-05, 03:26 PM
You could go for real simple and just do:

"Dreams, handmade."

OR

"Your dreams, handmade."


"Building your dreams...by hand."

"Crafting your dreams...by hand."

progre-ss
10-17-05, 04:51 PM
How are these?

http://static.flickr.com/28/53529270_2270d9f141.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/25/53529271_d82fdfef1c.jpg

Got more ideas brewing too!

HereNT
10-17-05, 07:04 PM
Kind of started getting something together tonight at work. Still not sure about the graphic, but it's the direction I'm going.

turd
10-17-05, 07:04 PM
how about these concepts?:

(a) fingers forming the circles and triangles of a bike, a la gang signs (it's the west siiide, afterall).. or, for a more PG reference, a la the hands in the tunnel in labyrinth?

(b) panel 1: hands holding a long, straight balloon.
panel 2: hands in 'voila' position showing off balloon twisted into a bicycle shape?

Jose R
10-17-05, 07:06 PM
How are these?

Got more ideas brewing too!

I like both. The second needs more *pop* though. nice work. :beer:

skelly
10-17-05, 10:10 PM
a quick go at it:

http://www.solographic.com/web/card1.jpg

absntr
10-17-05, 10:13 PM
skelly, nice work. I'm quite fond of Clarendon so I'm partial.

Maybe drop that top headline a little lower to balance the spacing out.

skelly
10-17-05, 10:33 PM
Yeah, Clarendon's one of my favorite serifs.

Good call on the headline, I'll try it out.

benny
10-17-05, 10:49 PM
Absntr, I checked out your site - good work. Nice and clean.