Mountain Biking - Klein Palamino

Has anyone here seen or ridden the new Klein Palamino? What a beautiful bike....

I noticed it resembles the Seven Duo. I know the Duo got some good reviews in MTN Bike Mag. Also, would any of u know how much the Klein costs. I know the Seven Duo is over 3,000, but it is Titanium and the Palamino is aluminum. Thanx

Klein made the maverick......tell me if im wrong......so now maverick licensed it to klein so they can put their name on it.

See this for a little info;
http://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=539
It appears to be a Paul Turner Monolink design, that has been liscensed to just about anybody.

Yup, Klein and Maverick(The company who designed the monolink) use to work together. Not anymore, but Maverick American licensed the design to Klein and Seven. This is what I hear....

Does anyone have any experience with this mono link design?
It looks as if it is a bike specific rear shock and in order to replace, u would need a whole new rear triangle. I could be wrong though. From reading in this forum, it appears that a triple link is the way to go to reduce peddle bob..i.e. fuel, NRS. In your opinion, what would be the best dual suspension design when reducing induced peddle feed back, besides a lock out

Originally posted by Eric
Does anyone have any experience with this mono link design?
It looks as if it is a bike specific rear shock and in order to replace, u would need a whole new rear triangle.

Actually a strut design, it appears to have the lower link and body as one unit, with the rear triangle pivoting at the bottom and bolting on at the top. See image;
http://www.maverickamerican.com/brainmay2001b.html
It still does not seem to be the end all answer though. The design will still only have about half as much suspension action when standing as it would being seated.

Thanx Kustomz, I checked out the web site and u are correct. I think I will stay away from that design. Plus, the seat tube angle is really laxed. I looked at some other reviews in that web site and they were not too happy with it. So, what would be the best full suspension disign? Horst or a design like the Fuel or NRS. There are so many that say they are the best. I know that everyone says get out and ride one and see for yourself, but when u get on a trail, things are different. Thanx

Originally posted by Eric
So, what would be the best full suspension disign?
I guess that depends on the type of riding. Everything out there seems to have a downside. Basic designs have up and down pedal bob, while others like seem to stretch in and out in length when pedaling hard, or designs that eliminate bob altogether have very little suspension when standing (when was the last time you hammered the rough setting down).
I guess the question is how much suspension travel do you need? In my case, the average 2-3" travel bikes really don't yeild enough to make a difference, whereas the 4.5-6" bikes are just way too heavy for weak legs like mine to keep moving fast forward. For me, a hard tail is just the ticket, it keeps me fairly slow in the rough stuff, which may be a good thing!

Ive been looking into FS bikes, one shop recommended A Fisher Sugar, the owner said this is the first time in ten years he's not going to sell his bike at year end. In his opinion its that good.

If money is no object, a Specialized Epic with the brain rear shock is the have all end all and be all of the FS world. Well acording to Mountain Bike magazine...

As far as I can see, either Rocky's ETSX and Santa Cruz frames also on paper would be mint too, as the rear doesn't swing, it travels up and down, so the chain doesn't affect the suspension, but does that make the suspension affect the chain? IE feedback? Hmmmm.......?

The Epic looks cool as hell! I really like it when they keep the triangle design in full susp. bikes..i.e. Fuel, Sugar, NRS. I read alot of reviews on these bikes and the problems they mentioned were major..(misaligned frames, chain suck!!, leaking rear shocks)
If it were a matter of tires, stem, cranks...big deal. But I don't want a bike that will be in the shop all the time. I have a friend that has a Cannondale jekyll and he really likes it. I have a hardtail and he blows me away every time. I have to seek a line every time the tech. stuff comes up and he just goes right thru it.
The only thing that bothers me about cannondale is there specific shocks they use. Other then that, they are awsome.
Oh, by the way, i ride XC w/ technical. Alot of rocks, roots, hills, 2ft drops and stumps. My hardtail is beating me up, but I like it :D

I dont know how much the actual bike is, but my dealer quoted me a price on the frame of $1800. Very expensive, but a good suspension design. If you want a detailed explaination of how the design works read the test of the seven duo at [url]www.mountainbike.com (I think that is the website)