Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - specifying all-american components

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steaktaco
10-19-05, 05:59 PM
I would like to build up a track bike using all state-side components.

so far I got:
bottom bracket — phil
headset — king
hubs — phil
seatpost — thomson (maybe)
spokes — is wheelsmith american? I don't mind DT.
stem — thomson (maybe)

but now I'm stuck. anyone know of good american components to complete this build?


drac_vamp
10-19-05, 06:02 PM
american classic makes nice hubs and seatpost.. other stuff too perhaps?

hyperRevue
10-19-05, 06:05 PM
what frame are you using?


dolface
10-19-05, 06:07 PM
do they have to be manufactured in the states?

treechunk
10-19-05, 06:08 PM
boone Ti stuff. Jonnycycles stem. Jeff Jones bars.
Where is Paul stuff made?
How's 'bout White Industries?

steaktaco
10-19-05, 06:09 PM
eh... custom. I've got 'til july to spec the build, but i want answers NOW.

steaktaco
10-19-05, 06:11 PM
do they have to be manufactured in the states?

I dunno.
the idea is I can't go all italian cause the frame will be made locally, nor can I go njs. so might as well go mismatched american.

treechunk
10-19-05, 06:13 PM
I dunno.
the idea is I can't go all italian cause the frame will be made locally, nor can I go njs. so might as well go mismatched american.


see if Boone can make you a set of their old Twisted cranks. That **** would be DOPE AS ****!

who's making your frame?

drac_vamp
10-19-05, 06:15 PM
do you need to go all anything? why not the mismatch parts and build the bicycle that has the best parts regardless of nation of origin? no need to be ameri-centric! a little bit of mavic here, some campagnolo there, some dura ace under there, and phils in front and back and you've got yourself a totally globe-trotting supermachine.

treechunk
10-19-05, 06:24 PM
do you need to go all anything? why not the mismatch parts and build the bicycle that has the best parts regardless of nation of origin? no need to be ameri-centric! a little bit of mavic here, some campagnolo there, some dura ace under there, and phils in front and back and you've got yourself a totally globe-trotting supermachine.


I think it's cool. I think having a cohesive thought behind a bike rocks, basically whatever it is.

sloppy robot
10-19-05, 06:25 PM
some people just dont like to wear nikes with an adidas sweatsuit.... nothing wrong with that..i built mine all italian.. it just feels right

p3ntuprage
10-19-05, 06:39 PM
nimble rims/wheels? (www.nimble.net)

fsnl
sparky

steaktaco
10-19-05, 07:30 PM
some people just dont like to wear nikes with an adidas sweatsuit.... nothing wrong with that..i built mine all italian.. it just feels right

actually adidas, nike, and puma are (or were) german. so mismatching them would be like me mismatching phils with kings and thomsons.

but slops I get watcha sayin' — just nitpicking. would be nice to have an all phil (or something) bike.

bostontrevor
10-19-05, 07:56 PM
Nike is American, Portland, OR to be exact. Always has been. FWIW.

curlybro
10-19-05, 08:02 PM
Bowerman and his crazy waffle iron.

steaktaco
10-19-05, 08:03 PM
Nike is American, Portland, OR to be exact. Always has been. FWIW.
ok I stand corrected.

sloppy robot
10-19-05, 08:30 PM
and puma and adidas were two brothers that hated each other..didnt talk for years and years.. so its a little different then phil and thompson

Thor29
10-19-05, 08:31 PM
But nothing with the Nike label is actually made in America. They have little girls in Cambodia who make their stuff for 40 cents a day.

I'm guessing that DT spokes are made in Switzerland, since the full name is DT Swiss.

A lot of American companies have their stuff made overseas, so it is pretty tricky trying to sort that out. One slimey trick is to have a sticker that says "designed in the USA" (like Marin bicycles). I love my Steamroller but that baby was made in Taiwan.

spud
10-19-05, 09:10 PM
Make sure you get a custom Timbuk 2 bag, then you'll know it was made in amerika and not some asian sweatshop

steaktaco
10-19-05, 09:12 PM
Make sure you get a custom Timbuk 2 bag, then you'll know it was made in amerika and not some asian sweatshop
already have one

jet sanchEz
10-19-05, 09:23 PM
Why does it have to be all-American? Is it a sponsership thing?

operator
10-19-05, 09:37 PM
No because it's for "cool" people.

r-dub
10-19-05, 10:47 PM
A subletter at my shop has an all northern california bike...Mikkelson frame with king/paul/phil/a few others parts, and some specially fabricated for him. Mainly because he could...local economies are nice.

pwarre20
10-19-05, 11:32 PM
I would like to build up a track bike using all state-side components.

so far I got:
bottom bracket — phil
headset — king
hubs — phil
seatpost — thomson (maybe)
spokes — is wheelsmith american? I don't mind DT.
stem — thomson (maybe)

but now I'm stuck. anyone know of good american components to complete this build?
Why are you hesitant about the thompson stem and post?

shot
10-20-05, 07:33 AM
You'll never find a chain that's made in the US, probably can't find tubes and tires either.

wangster
10-20-05, 08:18 AM
why don't you start machining your own parts, then it'll be truely local and made in the usa. Slap your own logos on there and some made in usa stickers. Hey you can have a custom bike from top to bottom. That'd be a pretty awsome project, probably expensive though.

rithem
10-20-05, 08:28 AM
Make sure you get a custom Timbuk 2 bag, then you'll know it was made in amerika and not some asian sweatshop

Hey, what about Bailey Works, gotta support the east coast spud.

isotopesope
10-20-05, 08:30 AM
i commend you on your american made attempts.

what are you doing for a frame?

treechunk, paul stuff is made in chico, ca.

white industries stuff is made here. they make those eno single speed cranks... the have cogs in the works as well, but there are also the phil cogs.

does anyone know if woodman components are made here? most of their stuff is expensive enough for me to think so. soma frames are made here; does anyone know if their handle bars, etc. are made here? i know some reynolds stuff is made here and some easton?

absntr
10-20-05, 09:00 AM
I think Woodman is British if I'm not mistaken.

C - you keeping the builder a secret?

And mr. steaktaco just ordered a Bailey so that's covered.

;)

2speedfiend
10-20-05, 09:34 AM
Woodman stuff is from Taiwan. The newer American Classic stuff comes from there also.

You're also gonna run into problems with chain, tubes, tires, saddle and pedals. I think you might have to bend your own bars.

SunRims makes alot (but not all) of their rims in Warsaw, IN.
DT Swiss has a factory in the US to better serve their US customers.
Wheelsmith is an American company.

absntr
10-20-05, 09:41 AM
I think the discrepancy here is American Companies vs. Made in the USA components.

If you're just doing American Companies, then this is easier of course.

steaktaco
10-20-05, 10:02 AM
Why does it have to be all-American? Is it a sponsership thing?

I like it when you look at a build, and it's obvious it wasn't simply a case of having The-Cash-To-Blow, but—more importantly—a result of a particular taste, meticulous nature, and godly patience. That’s when I appreciate the bike as a whole and not as a group or Really-Nice-Parts. having an american frame, I can’t go NJS or all-italian.


white industries stuff is made here. they make those eno single speed cranks.

thanks iso, that’s the first crank tip yet. sounds like there are no american track cranks, huh?


C - you keeping the builder a secret?

no, not really. it’s a jonny, as you know. I just didn’t want to sound like “oooo I’m a get this, and oooo I’m a get that, and I’ll have this done, and it will be soOoOoOo pimp”.

edit: oh, and naz, ixne on the onnyje tonight or you'll be sorry.

edit: imported consumables like chains, tubes, tires, and tape is ok.

isotopesope
10-20-05, 10:18 AM
actually, someone also suggested those beautifully 5 axis machined boone twist! cranks... too bad they look so cheesy and probably would cost way too much to justify such kitsch.

i can't think of ANY american made track cranks. profile bmx cranks are american made, but man alive those would be heavy for a track bike. not to mention weird looking.

Jonny Cycle
10-20-05, 10:23 AM
Have you seen the new Paul cranks that were displayed @ interbike?

Looks like all one piece (chainring and all!!!). I'm pretty excited about these....

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/1756-13.jpg

BostonFixed
10-20-05, 10:25 AM
Well SRAM is an American company, you could get a chain from them. It will be made overseas though.

You could always slaughter and tan the hide of a cow for bar tape.

shants
10-20-05, 10:26 AM
doesn't asahi make the wheelsmith spokes?

absntr
10-20-05, 10:32 AM
edit: oh, and naz, ixne on the onnyje tonight or you'll be sorry.


I assume you mean the wheelbuilding? I will be there. I want my FIR's on my Campy Record hubs damnit! (In this instance, all Italian).

steaktaco
10-20-05, 10:47 AM
Have you seen the new Paul cranks that were displayed @ interbike?

Looks like all one piece (chainring and all!!!). I'm pretty excited about these....

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/1756-13.jpg

OMG, the man himself!
hey jon, I heard the news about the m&g — wonderful — and more than what we had hoped for!

are those officially track cranks or siinglespeed. I kinda like the way they look.

steaktaco
10-20-05, 10:49 AM
I assume you mean the wheelbuilding? I will be there. I want my FIR's on my Campy Record hubs damnit! (In this instance, all Italian).

you don't speak pig-latin do you?

absntr
10-20-05, 10:54 AM
Nope. So what does onnyje mean?

absntr
10-20-05, 10:55 AM
I did speak a different version of it. Algay.

baxtefer
10-20-05, 10:59 AM
cranks?
get Leonard Zinn to make you a set of custom track cranks.

but yeah, i think it's going ot be impossible to find an american made tire/tube.

auroch
10-20-05, 11:07 AM
So you never answered the question of: Can they be American companies with products made overseas? How about Truvativ cranks?

Thor29
10-20-05, 11:10 AM
soma frames are made here; does anyone know if their handle bars, etc. are made here? i know some reynolds stuff is made here and some easton?

Not true - Soma Fabrications of SF has their frames made in Taiwan.

steaktaco
10-20-05, 11:10 AM
So you never answered the question of: Can they be American companies with products made overseas? How about Truvativ cranks?

I think I'd like for most of the build to be american-made. If it comes to it, american-by-design is a last resort.

consumables can be foreign — I mean there just isn't a tire I could use otherwise.

riderx
10-20-05, 11:13 AM
CookBros. cranks, 2 styles

http://www.cookbros.com/Cranks21.html

isotopesope
10-20-05, 11:21 AM
Not true - Soma Fabrications of SF has their frames made in Taiwan.

oh yeah... i always think of gunnar when i think of soma for some reason.

steaktaco
10-20-05, 02:03 PM
CookBros. cranks, 2 styles

http://www.cookbros.com/Cranks21.html

those look interesting, but not for me.
I'm all interested in those paul cranks now — but it's not on their site yet.

auroch
10-20-05, 02:09 PM
Too true! I have an entirely Chinese-made bike and...well...it is the biggest piece of crap.
granted it only cost me less than 20 American, but still.

Also, if you're going to be putting on brakes you should look at Paul Components. I just
got a set of their cantilevers and they are amazing. So well crafted makes me want
to cry "OOhh saaaayy caaaannn yoooouuuuu seeeeee! Byyyyy thhhhehee..."

jeff


I think I'd like for most of the build to be american-made. If it comes to it, american-by-design is a last resort.

consumables can be foreign — I mean there just isn't a tire I could use otherwise.

steaktaco
10-20-05, 02:32 PM
So well crafted makes me want to cry "OOhh saaaayy caaaannn yoooouuuuu seeeeee! Byyyyy thhhhehee..."

funny thing is — I'm not even a citizen... and english is my second language. I'm just trying to have a cohesive build.

paul ***** is nice though. it's like they throw centuries of development down the drain and design components from a fresh perspective. at least aesthetically, it seems like aliens designed their stuff. I mean aliens from up there. and what's up with the clamp on their hubs?