http://www.xtracycle.com/html/home.php
I have read some comments in the past, post links, comments, tips?
I am considering my novara randonee for conversion.
Are the weight limits accurate?
Do I need additional/different brakes?
Gearing- extremley low?
Extra hardware essential?
My LBS has a mechanical engineer who will do the work.

My LBS has one on the shop floor. The flat bed seems to be very sturdy and solid. The bike isn't too heavy, and pedals fine. The only weird thing to get used to is the very long wheel base, which become apparent in tight cornering. If you're using the bike for hauling stuff, the cornering shouldn't be an issue for you anyway. By the looks of it, the conversion is not complicated at all. It requires little, if any modification to the original bike frame. You will probably need longer rear cables, and possibly a mtn bike style v-brake or cantlelever brake.

The weight limits are the max load garanteed not to break it, some people have loaded more.
The conversion requires V-brakes or disc brakes(rear). I would highly recommend a front disc if you plan on a lot of unloaded braking as most of your weight will be on the front. The non-removeable frame extension is only 4lb, it's the rack, seat and bags that add another 5lb.
Gearing: I went extremely low for when/if I haul 200lb cargo uphill. A triple chainring would be a good idea :)
As for extra hardware, it all depends on your application. There are no standard passenger stoker bars, so unless you're good friends with your passenger you might want to look into a solution. The conversion kit comes with the extra chain and longer brake cable you'll need.

I think it looks a bit dorky. but I would not use it on a biek that I use all the time if I am not hauling stuff all the time.
a trailer practial and easier to load and you cna use the same bike.

You don't need a mechanical engineer to install an Xtracycle. It bolts on to your frame and then you put your rear brake and derailleur on the Xtracycle subframe. After that all you have to do is cut (or splice) the appropriate length chain and redo the cables.

The 700c version will work on a Novara Randonee but a mountain bike (or "urban" bike) makes a better platform. Mountain bike handlebars help when the bike is really loaded down and a 26" wheel will be a bit stronger than a 700c.

I had an Xtracycle for awhile and I loved it, but not as my only bike. In the big city it is a bit cumbersome to park and to carry up and down stairs. But man, oh man, was it wonderful at the grocery store! Four bags of groceries - no problem. And when I was building my fixed gear bike I carried the frame home on the Xtracycle. I'd really like to build another one eventually. It will function as a sort of two-wheeled truck.

I've been using one for several months, riding 25 to 40 miles a day in San Francisco, hauling nursing gear around, augmented with an electric motor for the hills (www.cleverchimp.com).

If you're hauling much weight, I highly agree with the suggestion to put a disc at least on the front. Especially if you ride in the rain.

Low gearing is good. I use a Rohloff and, even without the power assist, I make it up some fairly gnarly hills and I'm over 60 years old.

I have gotten totally used to the long wheelbase and except for very tight turns, don't notice anything other than a slightly more cushy ride. I find it rides a lot better than a trailer. More versatile too. Xtracycle website has a good comparison between their product at trailers, 7th item in the FAQ's.

As for looking dorky, I feel very smug as I haul four full bags of groceries home. And people on the street have remarked, "Cool bike!" To me, it looks WAY better than a SUV. But then I'm not in the Spandex crowd to begin with. I use mine as a car replacement and have named it SUBTAD: Sport Utility Bike That Ate Detroit.

I found it easy to put on my bike. I found some used tandem passenger bars on Ebay and bolted 'em on my seatpost. Besides my wife liking them, I find them useful to grab on to when moving the rear end around when parking. (The bike's rear end, not my wife's!)

Wow, that is perfect. I had seen mention of Xtracycles around here before, but somehow never investigated. This is definitely in my future.

Had one for awhile now. Been posting on how much i love the rig. I forget how nice it is, but riding to work with a backpack not on my back, carrying two FULL paper grocery bags home plus that backpack... When i commuted on my standard bike it was with a sweaty back, and i couldn't carry much more than a tiny bit of food home. Or with a backpack and a rack i could carry light groceries home.
I can carry my work bag, a breifcase, a toolbox to lock my stuff in and still give a girl a ride to her car, then pick up a bag of groceries.

Not too much heavier, good straight line and tracks at speed, no second parts to lock up, good street cred ad expandable to hold more weight than a trailer. Plus i don't forget to take it or wish i'd brought it.

I like the concept, and the utility of the Xtracycle. I have a Giant OCR Touring w/ disc brakes, granny gear and Mt Bike wheel set. I originally thought this was a steel only set up, aluminum does work?

I like the concept, and the utility of the Xtracycle. I have a Giant OCR Touring w/ disc brakes, granny gear and Mt Bike wheel set. I originally thought this was a steel only set up, aluminum does work?

Aluminum frames work fine, in fact Xtracycle sells a complete bike based on the Marin Novato, which happens to be aluminum.

i'm very happy with my extracycle. in fact i'de ride it instead of my 'normal' wheelbased ride if it weren't for the fact that it is a bit cumersome. it tracks that sweet. easy to install although you may need a different chain, since the one supplied is 7/8 speed. also if you are staying with road levers you'll need a problem solvers travel agent for the rear brake as the rear only accepts v brakes. it's a good idea to add additional varnish to the snap deck since that has a light coating. easy-i used clear spray. beoshield/framesaver the insides of the tubes would'nt hurt. the plastic plugs will fall out when ridden but you can make washers out of old tubes to keep them secure. fenders with mudflaps are good. the mudflap on the rear should extend below the rear bridge, keeping spray away from the weld gas holes there. all said it's a quality product and for me rides like a dream.

I don't ride one but do have a buddy who recently did almost 400 miles touring on his (and in flip-flops no less) riding the CA coast from Eureka to SF. He loves it, has been car free for years and has moved 2x with just the xtracycle.

The 700c version will work on a Novara Randonee but a mountain bike (or "urban" bike) makes a better platform. Mountain bike handlebars help when the bike is really loaded down and a 26" wheel will be a bit stronger than a 700c.

I have been dreaming of an xtracycle for awhile and one question i have gone back and forth with is 26" or 700c. I am wondering if anyone else has any opinions on the 26" vs. 700c question. What size do you use with your xtracycle? Why? thanks for the input.

while many people are happy with their 700c-based xtracycles, i think 26" makes more sense for the following reasons:
- for any given spoke count and build quality, 26" wheels are stronger than 700c by a considerable margin. you can load up enough for this to matter. passengers, potholes, speed, and 700c wheels are trouble.
- you can run much fatter tires, with or without fenders, using 26" wheels. tire volume is the only form of rear (load) suspension you'll have with an xtracycle.
- the xtracycle chassis was designed around typical MTB geometry. 700c-wheeled bikes are different, and the conversion will affect their handling in ways that might be fine, or might not be: it's more of a crap shoot.
- loaded xtracycles can suffer from excessive frame and fork flex. frames and forks for 700c wheels tend to be flexier than those for 26" wheels. so again, you're going in a sketchy direction with the bigger wheels.
- as for the marginal rolling resistance penalty of smaller wheels... you want an xtracycle so you can go fast? better to make the xtracycle your bicycle truck, so you can let your other bike(s) be the fast ones that don't need to carry stuff.

I love my xtracycle! It is a mtb conversion. I upgraded to disc brakes. And it makes going to the market a breeze! It's cool, and a party mobile. One can even ferry drunkards home on the back! It's the ultimate.

I've seen more people in my neighborhood with xtracycles lately... I WANT ONE. I dig the pic where the rider is transporting a keg, and the pic where the rider (a DJ perhaps?) has a sound system on his rig. So awesome... and seems very practical.

I need to teach my dog to ride on the back!

tfharner does indeed speak the truth. i agree completely. i run 26" wheels for the following reasons: 700's won't accelerate as rapidly to your cruising speed. maintaining that speed and beyond will require more effort in light snow, on hills and weighted. pick one or all three. with an extracycle your by default moving slower. mountain frames are more robust in construction along with the 26" wheels. more variety of rims are avalible-i'm talking holes, width and construction. tires too. you can get anything from a slick to studded. even chains or cleats if you look. i looked and found. no chains or cleats in 700. correct me if i'm mistaken. i run 36 hole 3x front/36 hole 4x rear on both my bikes. rear cogs are the same on both my bikes. i have two sets of wheels for each of my two bikes plus a studded set (nokians). this way i get up, look out the window, listen to the weather and then choose what wheel i need for the day. i'm thinking that since you are in limbo regarding 700c vs. 26" wheels you are thinking of converting a 700 to a 700 extracycle. that's why i posted previously about using road brakes. it's totally possible to use a road bar/brake/shifter combo on a mountain/extracycle frame. i use nitto moustache bars with bar end shifters and road brakes on mine.

i ordered my Xtracycle the other day -- 26" in the basic kit (decided to to go for the disc upgrade as i have good v-brakes) that i will put on my Norco hardtail that is my "commuter bike". i'm excited to see how it rides!!

I've been needing to pickup some heavy items from Walmart for my home. Things like: a few bookshelves and a footlocker. I've never carried any load quite this heavy on the Xtracycle (which I have named "Gladys" after my aunt) so, I will let you all know how it goes.

I'll wait until after midnight, when traffic is at its lowest level.

Of course, I'll need to make more than one trip, due to the number of heavy items I'll be carrying.

I was going to wimp-out and ask a friend if he would give me some help and load the stuff into the back of his pickup truck. But, living car-free takes a little bit more commitment than that.

Again, I'll tell you how it goes....

I posted a while back with lots of details about my conversion...
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=148506

Not crazy about the new pricing, try to find a used one on eBay. I had never done more repairs on my bike than adjusting breaks when I installed this. It was straight forward, and actually led me to get the confidence to start doing more of my own repairs since...

I may start using it for commuting now that the recumbent I was using has been reclaimed.

Of course, I'll need to make more than one trip, due to the number of heavy items I'll be carrying.

I was going to wimp-out and ask a friend if he would give me some help and load the stuff into the back of his pickup truck. But, living car-free takes a little bit more commitment than that.

Again, I'll tell you how it goes....

Do you have the Wide Loader attachments ? They help for carrying outsize, heavy stuff. I use two and try to balance the load between left and right when lugging a heavy load.

Been using the Xtracycle quite a bit lately.

The new Jelly's opened on Coral Street and I have a lot of books to sell-off. So, I packed-up a few dozen books and rode over to Jelly's to sell them.

It's been awhile since I last rode it and I normally ride fixed gear, so the gears on the Xtracycle felt a bit strange at first. I got used to it quickly enough and got to Jelly's with no problems. I didn't need my wideloaders, as I didn't have that many books and the wideloaders would be dangerous to ride in heavy traffic with me in danger of getting sideswiped by cars.

I've seen two other Xtracycles on the road in the last couple of months and I'm wondering how many more are out there in Honolulu.

- as for the marginal rolling resistance penalty of smaller wheels... you want an xtracycle so you can go fast? better to make the xtracycle your bicycle truck, so you can let your other bike(s) be the fast ones that don't need to carry stuff.

If you ride on-road, (and not on cobblestones, and not on road racing tires) smaller wheels may be as efficient or more efficient. Folding bikes with 20 inch wheels work great for speed if you aren't worried about 0.003 seconds of racing advantage.

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As for looking dorky, I feel very smug as I haul four full bags of groceries home. And people on the street have remarked, "Cool bike!" To me, it looks WAY better than a SUV. But then I'm not in the Spandex crowd to begin with. I use mine as a car replacement and have named it SUBTAD: Sport Utility Bike That Ate Detroit.

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i've had my xtracycle for a little less than a year now- and dont know how i would or did live w/o it. ive posted a few times to this forum... and thought it very strange how little response it received, as i dont see how someone could be car free with out one.

as for the "dorky" look- yeah, when i first saw it, i thought the same... but you do take on a smug look when you are doing something on a bike, the other 99 people locked in traffic never thought was possible.

i happen to use mine as a people carrier and as a grocery hauler. i take my kid to school, to dinner (when we go out), and around town. and he LOVES it. and yes, as noted previously- there is an attachment to haul a bike on your xtracycle. great for taking the bikes into the shop... or for covering the 15 miles until the real mtnbike trails start.

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I really can't express how excellent the xtracycle is. I got one used (yay!) and I've been just amazed at how consistently useful and fun it is.

The one big minus is that it does make one's bike harder to carry and lift into tight spots. I'm lucky that that's pretty much irrelevant for me, but it is a thing.

Bought a lowend mtb last year to compensate my stolen mtb which was my commuter (not taking the roadie out on my city travels anymore - pothole heaven) - and now that bike is now my full commuter as I have a nice FS coming my way in a few weeks. but have decided I've outgrown my roadie and want to step up - or not.

I'm actually thinking about one of these as there are times I would like to purchase more and I'm not putting the rack and panniers on the roadie, plus I don't think they'd fit the mtb commuter anyway - but then I've fallen before due to my overpacking the panniers (I rather cut a corner a little too fast and a little too low and went down) - but I didn't like the weight on the sides I guess, nor do I enjoy a 30 bulky-bally totally filled out backpack on my back either.

So I don't know - this bike does look interesting to me but I'm not sure I like traveling with the weights on either side (filled out panniers) versus just going and purchasing what I need and not filling out anything (panniers or backpack) and doing it that way. Either way I will be thinking about it for next year. This year is taken up with traveling and mtb so no more bike purchases this year. Would be kinda nice though to have a bike set up for this type of travel all the time - versus having to put this on the bike, strap that on, screw this here, here and <HEY - where's that other screw> here and - stuff like that.