Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Paul Component high flange hubs

I'm thinking about having a new set of wheels built this winter and have had my eye on these hubs for a while. Paul Comp. says they had some complaints about the earlier, lighter make of these, but state that they threw the weight factor out the window to produce a hub that is "total bomber under all circumstances". I have the Paul fhub and word hubs on my SS and really like them, so I would like to try their track hubs. They also come in black which is a plus. Does anyone recommend them, or for about the same price, should I just go with Phils?

I guess the Pauls would run about 50-75 bucks less than a pair of Phils

i just ordered the rear hub yesterday for my new soma project so it may be a little late, but i would like some imput as well.

One thing, they use a ~46mm chainline, not the standard 42mm track chainline. This just means you can use a road crankset with chainring on the outside of the spider with the regular road double bottom bracket.

I found this out the hard way after having the wheels built and having purchased the track crankset. Consequently I have a new all black wheelset for sale.. :rolleyes:

yea i remember hearing this but forgot when i bought them yesterday, well i can use a superbe pro 175 crankset or buy a veloce. but i have an adjustable spindle white industries BB, will that solve this problem?

I'm thinking about having a new set of wheels built this winter and have had my eye on these hubs for a while. Paul Comp. says they had some complaints about the earlier, lighter make of these, but state that they threw the weight factor out the window to produce a hub that is "total bomber under all circumstances". I have the Paul fhub and word hubs on my SS and really like them, so I would like to try their track hubs. They also come in black which is a plus. Does anyone recommend them, or for about the same price, should I just go with Phils?

i have a set of paul hubs on my rig and they work / look great. I also have a spare (130mm) paul, high flange, blk. hub (brand new) for sale. let me know if this is of any interest to you.....

i have a set of paul hubs on my rig and they work / look great. I also have a spare (130mm) paul, high flange, blk. hub (brand new) for sale. let me know if this is of any interest to you.....

Damn, I need a 120mm.

if i cant find a cool road crank for my soma ill sell you mine black and gold and its new

I have pauls on my Soma Rush and I'm using the track spec Sugino 75s with no problem. My chainlineis perfect and my ring is set up the normal way... Why would you think they wouldn't work again?

I love my Pauls, I have the front and back laced to open pros and they have been great. My rear wheel has 10k+ miles on NYC riding on it and no problems. I like the look better than Phils, to be honest.

I have the Paul/Gaansari hubs and love them. The axle "nuts" are actually 6mm allen bolts which I find to be a nice touch. I run a TA pista crank & BB and have no issues with chainline. Note that they are flip-flop fixed-free, not fixed-fixed if that matters to you.

One thing, they use a ~46mm chainline, not the standard 42mm track chainline. This just means you can use a road crankset with chainring on the outside of the spider with the regular road double bottom bracket.

I found this out the hard way after having the wheels built and having purchased the track crankset. Consequently I have a new all black wheelset for sale.. :rolleyes:

why ot just get a new wider BB?

they use a ~46mm chainline, not the standard 42mm track chainline.


DOES ANYONE HAVE MORE INFO ABOUT THIS, IS THIS TRUE.

phil TRACK hubs. (http://www.fyxomatosis.com/iliketorideinnewyork/pages/DSC_2196.htm)

For work and play.

phil TRACK hubs. (http://www.fyxomatosis.com/iliketorideinnewyork/pages/DSC_2196.htm)

For work and play.


I am so confused, what are you tryin to say. I have Phils, yeah they are great, but I have a question about Pauls.
Thanks Kyle

i have a pair of pauls track hubs on my SS cyclocross race bike. cyclocross races tend to be muddy to extremely muddy, bearings are sealed very well. i also take this bike mountain biking on occasion, sometimes fixed, sometimes free...so they take a pounding. oh ya, and the stainless steel lockring is very rad.

I have pauls on my Soma Rush and I'm using the track spec Sugino 75s with no problem. My chainlineis perfect and my ring is set up the normal way... Why would you think they wouldn't work again?

I love my Pauls, I have the front and back laced to open pros and they have been great. My rear wheel has 10k+ miles on NYC riding on it and no problems. I like the look better than Phils, to be honest.

your bike looks a lot like mine.

come on guys I need to know about the chainline

email paul components for the most accurate technical info. they'll know best, because they design 'em, and build 'em.

phil TRACK hubs. (http://www.fyxomatosis.com/iliketorideinnewyork/pages/DSC_2196.htm)

For work and play.
such a nice pic!

if, for some reason, the paul hubs indeed have a 46mm chainline, you could just flip the cog so that the cog flange faces inward and probably get down to 42.5-43mm (which is the true effective chainline of standard track hubs, anyways). or, heaven forbid, you could get a bottom bracket with a slightly longer spindle. i would just flip the cog. you don't deserve to be riding a bike if you cannot figure out an easy fix for this (if it can even be called a 'fix').

shants takes no prisoners!

you don't deserve to be riding a bike if you cannot figure out an easy fix for this (if it can even be called a 'fix').

Oh, I ought to...

hey don - if you could also check on the status of those track cranks too that would be awesome!

your bike looks a lot like mine.

but your bike is nicer. and it goes faster.

if, for some reason, the paul hubs indeed have a 46mm chainline, you could just flip the cog so that the cog flange faces inward and probably get down to 42.5-43mm

While this in theory would work... there are a few issues that prevented me from going this route.

Take a look at any EAI or Dura Ace cog, note that there is a slight recessed area where the lockring sits against when the cog is oriented normally. This placed the teeth of the cog very close to the spokes and while I didn't try it, I am not certain that a 1/8" chain will fit on the cog and still clear the spokes. Secondly, the threaded area on the hub itself are narrower than other hubs and when the cog was threaded on in reverse, only a few of the lockring threads actually had room to thread onto the hub.

Also, I could have gotten a wider BB but I had already bought the Sugin 75 crankset/bb and I would have been stuck with a 46mm chainline thus not allowing for easy wheel swaps in the future.

Maybe Paul redesigned the hubs but I doubt it... these were purchased from Paul direct in April or May of this year.

For note: I still have the wheelset w/ paul hubs over in the For Trade thread.... if anyone thinks I somehow don't deserve to be riding a bike because I gave up on this wheelset, give the hubs a go yourself.

zero. I still don't get it. I have the same cranks and bb that you do and a paul hub. My chainline is perfect and I don't recall there being any complexity to getting it that way. Did I do something wrong when I built this up?

i was indeed being a bit heavy-handed and facetious, but i am still relatively perplexed by the inability to make this work out. i'm a little confused as to why fewer lockring threads were visible when the cog was facing one way rather than the other. in any case, i have setup where the cog is flipped. it does look like the chain won't fit well, but it was totally fine when i tested it. it's worth a shot. paul hubs are quite nice.

the more i think about this particular problem, the more i'm thinking that maybe whomever built the wheels ever-so-slightly dished them, making the chainline off... if this is the case, they probably thought that they were doing you a favor by bumping the chainline out to something that'd work better with a standard road setup. you might want to check this out before getting rid of the wheels. a couple mm of dishing won't necessarily be obvious to the eye.

shants, if i am not mistaken, the dish of a wheel affects the alignment of the rim versus the center of the hub. this should have no effect on the distance of the center of the hub to the cog. now if there were spacers added to one side of the axle ...

What nice looking hubs.
The Paul web site describes these as a new design, with more threads for the lock ring.
The site also describes the Paul lock ring as deeper, with more threads.

http://www.paulcomp.com/frmhubs.html

i emailed them regarding the chainline on the high flange hubs and he replied:


Paul,

Our chainline is 44mm.

Have a good ride,

Paul
www.paulcomp.com

Hi there. Do you have the Paul high flange front? Would you (or anyone please) confirm the size of the bolts? I am guessing they are M7 or M8 with a 1.0 thread pitch? And the length (not including head)?? My plan is to replace them with titanium security bolts, so I need exact measurements. Thanks!!

Hi there. Do you have the Paul high flange front? Would you (or anyone please) confirm the size of the bolts? I am guessing they are M7 or M8 with a 1.0 thread pitch? And the length (not including head)?? My plan is to replace them with titanium security bolts, so I need exact measurements. Thanks!!

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You realize that it was a 7 year old thread.

You realize that it was a 7 year old thread.

i do....now.

http://paulcomp.com/contact.html

http://paulcomp.com/contact.html
oh you mean contacting good ol paul himself? yeah that was my first reckoning however, after two emails and a month of waiting, i decided to ask the common man, which predictably has been a helpful and informative pleasure