Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - suzue can shove it

So yeah.. 2nd check point into the reload ride yesterday....going down a hill... attempt to put on some back pressure... WOOOOOP! There goes my ****ing cog.
two sidewalks and a large amount of foot dragging I came to a stop.
:(
Ring threads are GONE.

Huh?

yeah, they're (in)famous for that.

bummer about your hub, glad you're all right.

yeah, they're (in)famous for that.

bummer about your hub, glad you're all right.

you can still run it as an ss though, that's what i did when blew up in exactly the same way.

Just so I'm sure, it was a Suzue cog that f'd up, right?

What Suzue hubs are we talking about? Just wondering since I'm thinking of getting me a pair of Suzue ProMax.

Suzue hub, the cheap one.

That's where my money's riding.

phew.

i'll bet a cookie they were the juniors...

I've been on one for around a year with much backpedaling, occasional skids, no problems. DA cog and lockring.

hubs schmubs, im just loving that "lick my balls" doesnt get censored

yeah... i hear yah... I'm just bummed that I'm bikeless for the moment... i should have replaced the hub once I was no longer a beginner to riding fixed.
I totally heard about them stripping out... totally my own negligence to blame.
No, it was not the cog that stripped out... it was the hub itself.
Yes, it was a junior.

hubs schmubs, im just loving that "lick my balls" doesnt get censored
:D

sorry to hear it:( Btw I went up to that Reload place yesterday just to check it out...seems pretty cool...although I wasn't that impressed with their bag designs...

...how did that alley cat thing go besides your suzue going to ****?

sorry to hear it:( Btw I went up to that Reload place yesterday just to check it out...seems pretty cool...although I wasn't that impressed with their bag designs...

...how did that alley cat thing go besides your suzue going to ****?

It was good... I was only about a third of the way through when I broke down...went and met some kids back at the shop and went down to the bar.

don't buy cheap! The Pro Max are the hubs to get.You buy the low end get low end results.

S/F,
CEYA!

I don't know how many times a week I tell people not to buy that *****.

this is where suzue ball bearings end up...

http://www.ocdart.com/Ball_Bearings_in_Hell.jpg

Hahahhhahahah I bought this "city" bike once, a Fuji so not that bad a bike, I'm heading down the hill from my house, and the rear hub bearings came out! Bearings bouncing along with me down the hill! Fortunately the shop I got the bike from was right on my way, I took it in and was all embarassed my rear hub had fallen apart down this hill, and they cheerfully fixed it for me (probably very glad I didn't land on my head or something).

I'm running those suzues on my current bike. I'm poor right now and didn't expect anything but low-end results but they seem fine so far. I don't ride very hard anyway. But ask me again in a week when I eat the back of a bus.

man this kind of thing has happened to me before. That's why everytime I try and build a "beater" I end up spending way to much money and have another bike with high dollar components.

I've been on one for around a year with much backpedaling, occasional skids, no problems. DA cog and lockring.

I have the same set up, had for about 2 years. Last week in the middle of noon traffic my cog spun off. I quickly went home and bought a IRO.

My first conversion had the Suzue Jrs on it and I rode them for about a year without incident.

yeah, one of my bikes has suzue jr's on it. no problems with threads stripping, but i do have to repack the bearings if i look at the hubs wrong.

hubs schmubs, im just loving that "lick my balls" doesnt get censored

Yeah, some prudes got all upset at the "My Other Ride Is Your Mom" under my avatar and told on me, I'm surprised they are not all over this one. Are the (lame) mods on vacation or something?

yeah, one of my bikes has suzue jr's on it. no problems with threads stripping, but i do have to repack the bearings if i look at the hubs wrong.


I've seen a number of those with bent axles as well as a number with stripped threads. Have you had problems with this?

don't buy cheap! The Pro Max are the hubs to get.You buy the low end get low end results.

S/F,
CEYA!

Pay now, or pay again later. The basic sucked. Made for miserable days for me...

Are the (lame) mods on vacation or something?

I'm sure there is one who will be here soon.


The sad thing is they really don't mind what goes on in here, except we tell on our selves.

My new solution: we should have an opt in warning like the poly forum has. That'd fix things.

Yeah, some prudes got all upset at the "My Other Ride Is Your Mom" under my avatar and told on me, I'm surprised they are not all over this one. Are the (lame) mods on vacation or something?

FWIW, your new quote is better.



The sad thing is they really don't mind what goes on in here, except we tell on our selves.

For such a dysfunctional group of motley vagabonds, we sure do have alot of hall monitors.

sounds like the ghetto hubs my khs came with. i just bought a used set of wheels (phils laced to mavic cxp 33s) on ebay and haven't looked back since even though i had to laydown some bling for them. at least i can still run that old wheel ss or bum bike it for a cruiser and loctite a cog on since there is still some threading left.

yeah... im really kinda screwed. i think that i can get the cash together to get a wheel but im gonna be bikeless for a couple weeks it would appear.

I've seen a number of those with bent axles as well as a number with stripped threads. Have you had problems with this?

One bent axle here. Replaced it with another crap suzue, this one's been fine. Especially good after I repacked it. Now I own a set of dura ace high flange which I hope will not be as problematic.

I would like to add you get what you pay for.

i too have stripped not one but two of those suckers out. i guess the real sucker is me tho. now i have an IRO, now problems so far, but i don't ever skid b/c i suck at it. if you wanted, you could rotafix and locktight that biitch back on and ride with a brake for a while, at least until your new hub arrives.

Go ride Level. No threads to strip.

Those Suzue Promax are pretty.

But yeah, the basics, or Jrs or whatever are garbage.

About the bent axles, I've bent myself a Promax rear, and before you go making weight judgements.... I'm 140 pounds.

Are these loose balls that we will be licking, or are they sealed balls?

yeah, one of my bikes has suzue jr's on it. no problems with threads stripping, but i do have to repack the bearings if i look at the hubs wrong.

well put. that sounds exactly like my first wheel, suzue jr.

I've been on one for around a year with much backpedaling, occasional skids, no problems. DA cog and lockring.




I have the same set up, had for about 2 years. Last week in the middle of noon traffic my cog spun off. I quickly went home and bought a IRO.


I have same set up and have been riding brakeless for two years. Uh Oh is it time?

Actually since I have heard so many horror stories like this I have since put a front emergency brake on. When it dies I will get something more solid.

It can???

I gotsta get me one o' thems Suzues!

Don't know if this is helpful to anyone but I have an old Suzue jr or basic or whatever and has very short cog threads. it requires the use of thin cogs that are about 1/2 the width of the regular cogs from most makers. otherwise the cog overhangs the lockring threads and only leaves like 2 threads for the lockring to engage. I've seen on better quality hubs where the lockring is too wide and hangs over the outside edge of the threaded part of the hub. I never checked to see how many threads were engaged in those cases. *HOWEVER*... A general rule of thumb for threads is that you need 3 threads fully engaged for full strength. For example, a thread pitch of 3/8" -24 (3/8" diameter, 24 threads per inch, actually not a thread pitch used much on bikes AFAIK, but a good example anyway) would require 1/8" of full engagement to achieve full strength since 1/8 of 24 is 3. I don't recall what the lockring threads pitch is but make sure you have full engagement or they will blow off under load. hmmm perhaps I should rephrase that....




So yeah.. 2nd check point into the reload ride yesterday....going down a hill... attempt to put on some back pressure... WOOOOOP! There goes my ****ing cog.
two sidewalks and a large amount of foot dragging I came to a stop.
:(
Ring threads are GONE.

Don't know if this is helpful to anyone but I have an old Suzue jr or basic or whatever and has very short cog threads. it requires the use of thin cogs that are about 1/2 the width of the regular cogs from most makers. otherwise the cog overhangs the lockring threads and only leaves like 2 threads for the lockring to engage. I've seen on better quality hubs where the lockring is too wide and hangs over the outside edge of the threaded part of the hub. I never checked to see how many threads were engaged in those cases. *HOWEVER*... A general rule of thumb for threads is that you need 3 threads fully engaged for full strength. For example, a thread pitch of 3/8" -24 (3/8" diameter, 24 threads per inch, actually not a thread pitch used much on bikes AFAIK, but a good example anyway) would require 1/8" of full engagement to achieve full strength since 1/8 of 24 is 3. I don't recall what the lockring threads pitch is but make sure you have full engagement or they will blow off under load. hmmm perhaps I should rephrase that....
If the problem is thick cogs (generally a good thing) not allowing enough lockring engagement, you might try the new Surly lockrings. They have an inset edge; the actual threads extend further in than the side of the lockring that is in contact with the cog. Thus, more lockring threads engaged.

If the problem is thick cogs (generally a good thing) not allowing enough lockring engagement, you might try the new Surly lockrings. They have an inset edge; the actual threads extend further in than the side of the lockring that is in contact with the cog. Thus, more lockring threads engaged.

Everyone loves thick cogs. *groan*

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

When I was going to build my first wheel I looked at the Suzue and the Surley hubs. The Suzue just felt gritty as hell, due to the unsealed bearings, while the Surley hubs were smooth. I went with the Surley. I still like those hubs I've trashed two of them because of the way I torqued them into the drops, which spun the cone nuts into the sealed bearings causing the hub to freeze up. But a screwdriver and a new set of bearings the wheel was back on the road.

I can't help my self either... I got a thick cog, and sealed balls.

About all the bent axels out there. I had an suzue axel bend after I wrecked on a lamppole while drunk. My rim and leg were a bit out of true but the new axle was only a couple bucks. Basically nothing. The new rim and spokes...quite a bit more.

We've been moderated!

Is there any thought that maybe a low end hub with high end cog and lock ring would change anything? The reason I say this is I have a set of juniors with DA cog and ring and I have had no problems with them at all. I skid and skip all the time with no problems with the threads or the axle. Just a thought.