Track Cycling - Carbon Fiber Track Frames

Some of the TT and Track bikes running all carbon frames are cool. Post any pics you have of these futuristic battle machines...

[B]warning:this thread may be cause an allergic reaction amongst some purists. proceed w/ open mind. ;)

Are carbon frames durable for racing/ crashes?

Some of the TT and Track bikes running all carbon frames are cool. Post any pics you have of these futuristic battle machines...

[B]warning:this thread may be cause an allergic reaction amongst some purists. proceed w/ open mind. ;)
I've seen a Carbon Fibre "Gan Well" Keirin bike but didn't take a photo. Bummer.

I've seen a Carbon Fibre "Gan Well" Keirin bike but didn't take a photo. Bummer.


Very, Very, I say cool indeed. CF Keirin Spacebike? :p Serendipitous! :p

BTW Giant (or is your true name OrbeaCF1?) you are living the life o' Riley, you know that don't you?
Wakaremasen? Your home page is naff, er, the bees knees, uh...whatever Aussies in Kyoto say nowadays... it's da shiznit! How's CF ride/hold op in the real worl/on the track compared to the NJS BIKES?

BTW Giant (or is your true name OrbeaCF1?) you are living the life o' Riley, you know that don't you?
Wakaremasen? Your home page is naff, er, the bees knees, uh...whatever Aussies in Kyoto say nowadays... it's da shiznit! How's CF ride/hold op in the real worl/on the track compared to the NJS BIKES?

So desu ne. Watashi no jinsei "bees knees desu"
Here in Japan I think you would be pushing poo poo up hill if you wanted CF to infiltrate the Keirin Scene. I was very surprised to see the Gan Well. Whilst I thought it looked beautiful (plain black and white) it was owed by just an amateur at the track. The NJS bikes still rule supreme, but I think steel and carbon can live in harmony on the Keirin Track. My Orbea (road bike) felt great on the track, but unfortunately my times were sh*t house.
Steve Desu.
Dozo:

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2005/aug/EdmundWhite.htm

I talked with a woman who sold this bike to this dude, and she said it was too flexy for her, so she got a Corima. Said it was the stiffest bike ever. I used to have one of those ICE frames (roadie converted to fixed) and I thought it was pretty dang stiff. She musta been a MONSTER on the track.

I've seen a Carbon Fibre "Gan Well" Keirin bike but didn't take a photo. Bummer.


From cyclingnews at the Sydney Australia bike show this week:

"Bridgestone isn't a new name to bikes - US readers with long memories will recall the Bridgestone road and mountain bikes of the late 80s and early 90s when the company's iconoclastic US marketing director Grant Petersen came up with some extremely well thought-out bikes that are still cult items among those lucky enough to have them.

The Bridgestone name is back - in Australia at least - on bikes that used to be stickered 'Anchor'. Bridgestone's Kouji Yoshi of new Bridgestone importer Japan Outdoor Action admitted that naming a bike after a very heavy lump of metal intended to stop a boat wasn't terrific marketing.

Yoshi has been in Australia for several weeks, looking after three Japanese teams at the Herald-Sun Tour and plans to move here permanently from December. He doesn't think he'll be riding Bridgestone's gorgeous carbon track bike at the Tasmanian Carnivals this year though - not enough time to train in between being a businessman and team manager!"

Is this the same frame, or evolved from it?

Some of the TT and Track bikes running all carbon frames are cool. Post any pics you have of these futuristic battle machines...

[B]warning:this thread may be cause an allergic reaction amongst some purists. proceed w/ open mind. ;)

This one's mine

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Is this the same frame, or evolved from it?

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Looks the same except the one I photographed had PHM 7 on the top tube where yours has PHM 9
Steve.

[QUOTE=thewalrus]
Is this the same frame, or evolved from it?

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Looks the same except the one I photographed had PHM 7 on the top tube where yours has PHM 9
Steve.

The PMH 7 uses typical run of the mill carbon fiber, whereas the PHM 9 uses high modulus carbon fiber, but the same molds are used to construct both models.

This one's mine
I forgot to say how great your bike looks. Sorry to show my ignorance but is it a Corima?
Steve.

This one's mine
Very cool custom BT> Who did the paint?

OH, is it a Corima? Similar down"tube"/profile. Send close ups!

It is indeed a BT, paint was done by myself. Mostly airbrush with some fine handbrush details. This is the only close up I have one hand at the moment. Bike's at home while I'm at school, although I do have my steel Look with me and some rollers in my dorm room, lol.

It is indeed a BT, paint was done by myself. Mostly airbrush with some fine handbrush details. This is the only close up I have one hand at the moment. Bike's at home while I'm at school, although I do have my steel Look with me and some rollers in my dorm room, lol.

That's it. I'm painting my own bikes from now on! :D
That is one sweet ride...you have no fear if you run that baby at the velodrome! That's the spirit, bikes are for ridin' sculptures in motion, not museum relics!

It is indeed a BT
Sorry to think it was a Corima. Being an Aussie I should have known. I need my arse kicked.
Steve.

" Kicking ass is better for the posture than kissing ass."

-Balzhoff Steele

I've found what appears to be a Japanese company selling the Bridgestone/Anchor PHM9 frame, 315000 yen.

Or 265,000 yen for the PHM7.

315,000 yen = $2520 USD

It says the prices include tax.

Babelfish mangles it, but it's readable:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage3.nifty.com%2Faskeycycle%2Fanchor.htm

So desu ne. Watashi no jinsei "bees knees desu"
Here in Japan I think you would be pushing poo poo up hill if you wanted CF to infiltrate the Keirin Scene. I was very surprised to see the Gan Well. Whilst I thought it looked beautiful (plain black and white) it was owed by just an amateur at the track. The NJS bikes still rule supreme, but I think steel and carbon can live in harmony on the Keirin Track. My Orbea (road bike) felt great on the track, but unfortunately my times were sh*t house.
Steve Desu.
Dozo:


Arigato!

alot of high school students bring their arbon anchors out to the track.. maybe we can hook up on my trip back home.

I can pm my nihongo denwa bango before my arrival.

mata ne.

S/F,
CEYA!

I can pm my nihongo denwa bango before my arrival.



S/F,
CEYA!
If you are ever coming down to Kyoto please do that,
Steve.

Giant, FES, and Bianchi...

Giant, FES, and Bianchi...

Ooooooh...Bianchi!
Is that the 2006 pista concept, or is it a TT speciale?

Giant, FES, and Bianchi...
I wish I had money. :(

Here is a Calfee Luna Fixie. Unfortunately it has cross geometry and a cross fork. So the wheelbase is long and the angles are slack. It is really built for the street, but it does ok on the track. It is really, really light and strong, but it doesn't handle properly. I'll put a track fork on it next spring, so that will help some. I'd love to have Craig build me a proper track bike (I got this used on ebay) but he wants 3 grand...probably in two years I'll have him do that. Check www.calfeedesign.com on sponsored riders page for pics of a couple purpose built track machines that he has done...he'll even make you a Bamboo one if you like!

Giant, FES, and Bianchi...

**** me that Giant is hot lookn'................ attn: boss. Pay me alot more. I want that bike.

This thread wins the internet.

Ah! There's Dave! Welcome to the 21st century, my friend!

BTW, Dave, Exel Sports Boulder has the CH Aero disk wheel cover for like, sixty bucks.
Save up for the Zipps or Heds and save your money by riding this baby. It works!

Well it took long enough, but I finally got my carbon track bike. Pics to follow. Or check my sig.

Ironically, it's the same bike from post #7. Funny how this stuff works, huh?

I've learned, and ridden so much since then, I feel like a different person is posting.

I still have great lust in my heart for the Anchor PCM9, but I just can't justify it yet.

Are carbon frames durable for racing/ crashes?

I've seen Corima's and BT's go down hard in crashes and get back up just fine (except for destroyed wheels). Probably depends on both the bike and the crash, but there are a lot of them being raced now.

If I were riding on concrete I'd stick with aluminum but that's just me.

I've seen Corima's and BT's go down hard in crashes and get back up just fine (except for destroyed wheels). Probably depends on both the bike and the crash, but there are a lot of them being raced now.

+1

And nearly every Look I see crashed comes up with a broken fork. Ouch, that will leave a mark (in the wallet) every time.

HI regarding BT and ANchor, I havent riden any of them but i had gotten the pleasure to have them in my hands... nice machines but as many people might think, those 2 frames are quite heavy compared with a regular top of the line track bike or an aluminum one. Why? no clue... probably the scheleton of both is AL? probably inside has steel? Well that coudl explain why no damage in quite big accidents... no idea probably somebody knows the secret... The bikes should be super stables and stiff and with a lot of iniertia obviously...

U guys forgot to mention Colnago... Tange has a cool track carbon frame also... Ridley had one also (not anymore)... hmm... BMC has a bad ass track bike also.

Cheers...


ps: regarding LOOK... they are ok but as somebody said, they brake easily, and if u dont have an accident the frame will brake anyways, luckly carbon is easy to fix after all. The main problem with look is that the warranty sucks. Track frames looks like are out of any warranty so far my experience with a couple of federations, who bought look and somehow the frames got cracks. Solution? fix the **** ourselves because LOOK didnt want to do anything about it... 6 grands to the trash? no way hehehe

Gord Singleton's Dolan Arc.

Yeah, but Gord could ride a unicycle and still win. Nice bike tho!

i'd like to have one of these as my track bike:






full carbon, $2500 with fork and headset at my LBS.

http://www.teschnergroup.com/products/teschner/framesets/trackPro/

I quite like this one as well. Reminds me of the Look Athena.




i'd like to have one of these as my track bike:






full carbon, $2500 with fork and headset at my LBS.

http://www.teschnergroup.com/products/teschner/framesets/trackPro/

Isn't the Dolan Arc and Teschner the same frame and fork. One mat finish, one high gloss finish?

Isn't the Dolan Arc and Teschner the same frame and fork. One mat finish, one high gloss finish?


they look very similar. i'll ask at my lbs where they sell the teschner.

i'd like to have one of these as my track bike:






full carbon, $2500 with fork and headset at my LBS.

http://www.teschnergroup.com/products/teschner/framesets/trackPro/
they have it in stock? what shop?

they have it in stock? what shop?


Ted's Manhattan Beach Bicycles (my LBS) 110 N Sepulveda Blvd., Manhattan Beach. I was there yesterday and they didn't have the blue, matte finish one above in the shop as they did last week, but they had a black one with a gloss finish hanging on the wall. I rode past Bill Ron's shop, 807 Torrance Blvd, Redondo Beach,CA (1 block west of Prospect Ave., small shop in a small strip shopping center) http://www.billronbikes.com/, and he has a blue one hanging in the window.

The Dolan and the Techner are the same frame. Probably both made in Taiwan. One's sold out of Austrailia, the other from Liverpool.

http://www.bianchi.it/en/products2007/Frames_X7B14.aspx
anyone have info/experiance with the Bianchi D2 Pista Carbon? Thank you!

njs carbonium



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