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Serendipper
10-30-05, 06:34 PM
Just in time for Halloween.

Urban Legend or truth? Bladed aero wheels have resuted in accidents involving missing limbs. :( My lbs refuses to stock them ,allegedly for this reason. A roadie i know says it almost happened to him w/ Spinergy Wheels. I want a Spinergy for the front of my track buildup, but don't want negative kharma, or amputees as a result.

What's truth vs. fiction here?

slvoid
10-30-05, 06:39 PM
How many handless track racers do you see out there...

Serendipper
10-30-05, 06:44 PM
How many handless track racers do you see out there...

Hey, if you learned to use a computer (without a brain), Anything is possible!
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:





Take it like you give it, slovid, you are one of the witter trolls amongst us.... :D

slvoid
10-30-05, 07:01 PM
Hey, if you learned to use a computer (without a brain), Anything is possible!
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Take it like you give it, slovid, you are one of the witter trolls amongst us.... :D

That's how smart I am, I can learn to use a computer w/o a brain and you need yours. Imagine the things I could do if I just had a brain... :p

ZappCatt
10-30-05, 08:31 PM
On fixedgearfever one of the posters(who was asking about a wheelset) said that he is not going to get aero spokes because he saw a trackie lose a finger in a crash due to aero spokes..not a limb..but still would suck...

duckliondog
10-30-05, 08:36 PM
I can't imagine that normal, round spokes, moving at high speed, would be much friendlier. Fixed geared bikes present enough of a hazard with their rings and cogs as it is. This guy found that out the hard way. (http://www.zweknu.org/blog/index.rhtml?s=p@602&c=T&ft=T)

giantcfr1
10-30-05, 08:46 PM
This story has been going around for years. When I got mine maybe 9 years ago I was told about the rabbit that was decapitated by spinergys in a US road race. I raced in may crits before the UCI banned all one piece carbon wheels in bunch starts and many other riders used them too. I have never seen any proof to the stories so I say "Urban Legend". I had my foot sliced badly when my pedal and foot went into the front wheel of an other rider's bike. His spokes were standard.
I say "Go get em tiger", you and your bike will look fantastic.
Steve.

slvoid
10-30-05, 08:58 PM
Look at the flat carbon spokes on Lightweight wheels, they're literally sharp carbon blades...

Serendipper
10-30-05, 09:18 PM
This story has been going around for years. When I got mine maybe 9 years ago I was told about the rabbit that was decapitated by spinergys in a US road race. I raced in may crits before the UCI banned all one piece carbon wheels in bunch starts and many other riders used them too. I have never seen any proof to the stories so I say "Urban Legend". I had my foot sliced badly when my pedal and foot went into the front wheel of an other rider's bike. His spokes were standard.
I say "Go get em tiger", you and your bike will look fantastic.
Steve.

Yata! Dere's tha' ol' Aussie Spirit, mate! Cheers & a round o' Sapporo when I get to Nippon! :beer:
Giant's da Ace in my book....ok, enough w/ the arse kissin'! :D

"Kicking ass is better for the posture than kissing ass."
-The Legendary Balzhoff Steele

Serendipper
10-30-05, 09:21 PM
Look at the flat carbon spokes on Lightweight wheels, they're literally sharp carbon blades...
Got a nasty paper cut from one at the LBS.
"...come back....'tis only a flesh wound!"
-The Black Knight
from Monty Python's ...oh you know the rest...

Woofer
10-30-05, 09:34 PM
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/159eafe547e560f0?dmode=source&hl=en
Someone did have their kneecap almost sliced off, but they put him back together.

CafeRacer
10-31-05, 06:15 AM
Crock....Even if a spinning spinergy wheel is like a block of knives it doesnt have the dynamic weight to cut a limb off. I think the only limbs you may find severd, gashed or hacked up are fingers from chain cleaning accidents. I almost lost the tip of a finger last fall from a rag getting caught in the chain ring and pulling my hand with it..........

zaphodbeeblebro
10-31-05, 08:36 AM
over at another biking forums last year there was a thread about a guy who had the tip of his finger sliced clean off by his disc rotor. Disc rotor on a mtn bike woudl definitely have the potential to slice a limb off...just not big enough.

same time
10-31-05, 11:09 AM
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.racing/msg/159eafe547e560f0?dmode=source&hl=en
Someone did have their kneecap almost sliced off, but they put him back together.


That someone was Michele Bartoli, and he was the uci's number one ranked rider in the world. He fell in a double paceline, and his knee went into the back wheel of the rider next to him - it was a spinergy, and it sliced under his kneecap. Quite a gruesome injury. Because Spinergy was a sponsor of his team, the details of the crash were covered up.

They put his knee back together, and Bartoli did come back to race professionally a few more seasons, but he was never a top rider again.

I remember when Spinergy mountain bike wheels came out, they had six pairs of flat carbon spokes, and people complained that sticks would get stuck in there and cause crashes.

2manybikes
10-31-05, 11:24 AM
That's how smart I am, I can learn to use a computer w/o a brain and you need yours. Imagine the things I could do if I just had a brain... :p

"The brainless computer operator meets the handless track racer" :eek:

coming soon to a theater near you ............. HAPPY HALLOWEEN :)

genec
10-31-05, 12:06 PM
Crock....Even if a spinning spinergy wheel is like a block of knives it doesnt have the dynamic weight to cut a limb off. I think the only limbs you may find severd, gashed or hacked up are fingers from chain cleaning accidents. I almost lost the tip of a finger last fall from a rag getting caught in the chain ring and pulling my hand with it..........

This and the earlier accident involving chain are quite preventable... only clean/oil your chain by running it backwards, and do the work on the "low side."

Sure, eventually you will want to check the drivetrain by "pedaling" in the right direction, but at that point, fingers and rags should be well clear.

slvoid
10-31-05, 12:10 PM
"The brainless computer operator meets the handless track racer" :eek:

coming soon to a theater near you ............. HAPPY HALLOWEEN :)

Apparently.. these track cyclists are a special breed.. their hands turn to stone as soon as they leave the body.

2manybikes
10-31-05, 12:12 PM
Apparently.. these track cyclists are a special breed.. their hands turn to stone as soon as they leave the body.

:lol:

"special"... yeah, that's it!

Iffacus
10-31-05, 03:09 PM
How many handless track racers do you see out there...

http://www.bcf.uk.com/gallery/2003/Larry/track_nationals/Disability/thumbnails/0_disability_010.jpg

Heres one for starters ;)

marcelinyc
10-31-05, 03:21 PM
flat mavic elite spokes will cut your finger off. i've seen it this season at kissena
happy halloween

Serendipper
10-31-05, 05:04 PM
Apparently.. these track cyclists are a special breed.. their hands turn to stone as soon as they leave the body.

Hey, slovid what's under the glove?

I bet 50 quid it's a hand o' stone!

It goes w/ your hard headed tendencies! :D

(I kid the doc, I swear!) :rolleyes:

CafeRacer
11-02-05, 06:21 AM
If you google spinnergy the first site to come up will be theres, soon after will be a 'claims' site.

slvoid
11-02-05, 07:12 AM
I bet 50 quid it's a hand o' stone!

It goes w/ your hard headed tendencies! :D

(I kid the doc, I swear!) :rolleyes:

I'm not hard headed, I'm just stubborn!
You're gonna get the glove now...

giantcfr1
11-02-05, 07:15 AM
If you google spinnergy the first site to come up will be theres, soon after will be a 'claims' site.

Can you please post a link to the claims site? I would be interested in reading it. I'm failing to find one other than MTB stuff. I don't have a claim but I have tried to contact them on several occations with questions and am ignored except for a computer generated message saying "Thank you for contacting Spinergy! Due to high volume of
emails, please allow 2-3 business days for a response to your
email. Have a great day!"

Thanks,
Steve.

andygates
11-02-05, 08:54 AM
Just how would you get a hand into a spinning wheel anyway?

I've a cousin who lost two fingertips in a spoked motorcycle wheel due to clumsy maintenance. While working in a bike shop between terms I saw a Saturday boy flip off two fingernails in a spinning bike wheel (and boy, did he bleed!). Neither could have got their whole hand into the wheel fast enough.

I say urban legend.

Woofer
11-02-05, 09:09 AM
Just how would you get a hand into a spinning wheel anyway?

I've a cousin who lost two fingertips in a spoked motorcycle wheel due to clumsy maintenance. While working in a bike shop between terms I saw a Saturday boy flip off two fingernails in a spinning bike wheel (and boy, did he bleed!). Neither could have got their whole hand into the wheel fast enough.

I say urban legend.
If you do enough mass start bicycle races, you will get into a crash. Enough crashes and plenty of body parts get stuck into wheels, mostly fingers and toes. I thought I lost my thumb tip earlier this year when it got jammed into someone's wheel, almost broke my nail and did bruised it. It was just round spokes, and I had braked from 30 to about 15 by the time I went down.

eddiebrannan
11-04-05, 03:19 PM
If you google spinnergy the first site to come up will be theres, soon after will be a 'claims' site.


went through three pages of spinergy (spelled correctly) and no claims site. link?

abm1213
11-06-05, 07:54 PM
Are there any actuaries in the house? Seriously, what kind of unintentional injuries and maiming gets done in the name of track racing and what is the frequency of these injuries? Your local HMO wants to know.

pitboss
11-07-05, 07:19 AM
oddly enough, stickerguy, teadoggg, and I had the opportunity to meet a female cyclist (She races for xXx Racing here in Chicago)at the Northbrook velodrome who has a rather interesting set-up for her situation. She has a Lawwill (sp?) device for connecting her prosthesis to the drop - ball and socket type junction. How awesome is that? Plus, she kicks much ass. So check your postures gentlemen...