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Machin Shin
11-03-05, 01:13 PM
I am wondering if anyone besides Cervelo and Giant make aero road bikes. It seems that these bikes are uncommon as I have only found these two:
http://www.giantbicycle.com/images/_upload_cn/bikes/models/zooms/2004/f04-TCR-Aero-1.jpg
http://www.cervelo.com/bikes/2005%20images/2005-Soloist-Team.jpg
Do you know of any others made by major manufacturers or custom builders? Post a pic if you can.
Thanks a bunch. :)
Dante
Grasschopper
11-03-05, 01:27 PM
Well the little fin deals on the Trek Madone frames are supposed to have a tangable Aero effect according to their wind tunnel testing.
audiojan
11-03-05, 01:35 PM
Kestrel Talon
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 01:45 PM
http://www.kestrel-usa.com/images/bikes/colors_talonslred.jpg
Nice ride! :D
Thanks.
worker4youth
11-03-05, 01:57 PM
Kestrels rock! I have one.
garysol1
11-03-05, 01:59 PM
Does the Trek Y-Frame count??
http://johno.myiglou.com/images/yfoil.jpg
garysol1
11-03-05, 02:01 PM
Specialized Transition......http://www.specialized.com/OA_MEDIA/2006/bikes/06SWorksTransition_l.jpg
Sprocket Man
11-03-05, 02:17 PM
Does the Trek Y-Frame count??
Not with a triple. ;)
Patriot
11-03-05, 02:46 PM
I have to admit, I also like the Kestrel design. Very aero, for a road bike.
Dinstee
11-03-05, 02:58 PM
You talking time trial/triathalon bikes?
This Quintana Roo Lucero is lusty!
http://www.rooworld.com/images/2005/lucbike_lg.jpg
Trek Equinox 11....
http://www2.trekbikes.com/images/bikes/large/equinox11_titaniteblack.jpg
Elvish Legion
11-03-05, 03:29 PM
Specialized Transition Multi sport
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 04:26 PM
road bike or TT bike?
I'm looking for road bikes only. I think my next roadie will be aero because I'm a serious speed junkie who loves to sprint. I'll take every advantage I can to go faster. :D
I really like the Cervelo Soloist Carbon, but it's a little out of my price range. About $5000 with DuraAce. :eek:
Maybe the AL Soloist?
Dante.
this litespeed is absolutely dreamy! :love:
http://www.litespeed.com/images/2005/lg/ultimate.jpg
and how ever steppinthefunk did his, thats the shiznit! :D
Elvish Legion
11-03-05, 04:53 PM
I'm looking for road bikes only. I think my next roadie will be aero because I'm a serious speed junkie who loves to sprint. I'll take every advantage I can to go faster. :D
I really like the Cervelo Soloist Carbon, but it's a little out of my price range. About $5000 with DuraAce. :eek:
Maybe the AL Soloist?
Dante.
You do know the bikes are more or less entry level tri bikes right? You aren't going to be any faster on it.
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 05:13 PM
You do know the bikes are more or less entry level tri bikes right? You aren't going to be any faster on it.
Please explain how you figure that. If I take two bikes, one with an aero frame and wheels and the other with a standard frame and wheels, supply the same power to both bikes on the same course (flat or downhill) in the same position (drops), your telling me I won't be traveling faster on the aero? :rolleyes:
I realize the speed increase will be small but like I said, I'll take every advantage I can get. :)
Dante
Now it seems like you dont want to hear this, but What the heck!
You should be focusing on your motor. Get that engine of your a roarin! Really try to get your own body into the best shape it can be (well...) and then reward yourself witht that aero road bike you wanted...
See I know you dont care but I am just trying to help!
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 05:28 PM
Now it seems like you dont want to hear this, but What the heck!
You should be focusing on your motor. Get that engine of your a roarin! Really try to get your own body into the best shape it can be (well...) and then reward yourself witht that aero road bike you wanted...
See I know you dont care but I am just trying to help!
Oh, but I do care. I train 5 days a week in the off season (now) and I know the importance of a good motor. Mine is good but there is room for improvement. So I will continue to train hard and tune the motor for next season.
I do plan to reward myself, but not until I EARN IT. I haven't suffered nearly enough for a Cervelo. :D I have my own goals set for next season and if I am fortunate enough to achieve them I will be one step closer to that new ride.
I just couldn't justify spending thousands of dollars on an aero frame Cervelo or Kestrel and not have the motor to power it along.
Thanks. :)
Dante
Yay, Ok proceed! :D
hi565
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 06:33 PM
Yay, Ok proceed! :D
hi565
Yes, my moderator (Bows deeply).
:D
Yes, my moderator (Bows deeply).
:D
I am just happy that you understand the right idea behind riding. And not all I got this bike and it will make me faster blah blah. :)
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 06:49 PM
I am just happy that you understand the right idea behind riding. And not all I got this bike and it will make me faster blah blah. :)
My master is Fujicyclist. He taught me everything I know.
Now I'm going out to get my new carbon rear deraileur hanger. That has GOT TO MAKE ME FASTER!!!!! ;)
My master is Fujicyclist. He taught me everything I know.
Now I'm going out to get my new carbon rear deraileur hanger. That has GOT TO MAKE ME FASTER!!!!! ;)
hahahaha, nice man, nice. :)
Elvish Legion
11-03-05, 07:19 PM
Please explain how you figure that. If I take two bikes, one with an aero frame and wheels and the other with a standard frame and wheels, supply the same power to both bikes on the same course (flat or downhill) in the same position (drops), your telling me I won't be traveling faster on the aero? :rolleyes:
I realize the speed increase will be small but like I said, I'll take every advantage I can get. :)
Dante
Because the drops aren't the most aero, your clothes will catch wind, head winds, everything, you'd need to use the aero bars (which you can't in a race) to be in a good aero position. I have both a 'aero' frame (Spec Trans Multi Sport) and a non 'aero' frame (Bianchi Brava) There is no speed difference unless you count aero bars vs non...and even then its minor untill you get into long distances.
Seriously think about it, so what your frame is aero....thats all, you aren't any more aero, your helmet, your wheels, your clothes.
youm0nt
11-03-05, 07:25 PM
look has 1 or 2 aero shaped road frames. one of them is called the KG 486
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 07:41 PM
Because the drops aren't the most aero, your clothes will catch wind, head winds, everything, you'd need to use the aero bars (which you can't in a race) to be in a good aero position. I have both a 'aero' frame (Spec Trans Multi Sport) and a non 'aero' frame (Bianchi Brava) There is no speed difference unless you count aero bars vs non...and even then its minor untill you get into long distances.
Seriously think about it, so what your frame is aero....thats all, you aren't any more aero, your helmet, your wheels, your clothes.
Well, the drops are the most aero position if all you have is a standard road bar. I can ride fast and comfortably with my torso over the top tube and a flat back. I realize that aeros are more aero but I have no intention of getting a TT bike or adding aeros to a road bike. I like to sprint and descend. Those are the things I do best. So there you you have it.
You do have a good point about clothes and helmets and such.
Thanks. :)
Machin Shin
11-03-05, 07:45 PM
look has 1 or 2 aero shaped road frames. one of them is called the KG 486
I found this...
http://images.competitivecyclist.com/images/products/look/2006/kg_486_main.jpg
Nice frame!
Dante
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b396/jimfeil/FestinaS-Works.jpg
THis is a somewhat aged design but you can pick these frames up on eBay for around $300.00
Well, the drops are the most aero position if all you have is a standard road bar.
Nope. The most aero position is resting your forearms on centre of the tops, arms pointed out in a tri-type position. You'll see riders doing this a lot at the front of a paceline on good, straight roads in road races.
Interesting point. If you can't comfortably ride like this for a long time, your bars are too low or your hamstrings need some work.
gcasillo
11-04-05, 02:57 AM
this litespeed is absolutely dreamy!
Yes, the Litespeed Ultimate is dreamy, and you can get one for a good price (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7192169199)! (Couldn't resist, sorry.)
Also, a Look KG486 has curvacious, aero tubing.
Machin Shin
11-04-05, 06:45 AM
Nope. The most aero position is resting your forearms on centre of the tops, arms pointed out in a tri-type position. You'll see riders doing this a lot at the front of a paceline on good, straight roads in road races.
That will not work for me. I tried it once this past summer and it was nearly disaster.
I have the K-force wing carbon bars with the tops uncovered. Add a little sweat and they're super slick. :(
I know I could wrap the bars up more, but I like them uncovered.
Of the three basic riding positions, tops, hoods and drops, the drops are the most aero and are safer than the method you describe. If I am descending a hill at 50+ mph, I want both hands on the wheel so to speak.
Dante.
StanSeven
11-04-05, 07:10 AM
Nope. The most aero position is resting your forearms on centre of the tops, arms pointed out in a tri-type position. You'll see riders doing this a lot at the front of a paceline on good, straight roads in road races.
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I also like the people that hold on to their cables like this. I've seen them stay in this position for a long time even when the road has lots of turns.
gcasillo
11-04-05, 07:14 AM
Nobody rests their forearms on the tops while descending at 50mph. The position EURO describes is usually employed on long breakaways or at the front of the peloton over a relatively flat parcours. Check out Dave Zabriskie during his day long solo breakaway during the '04 Vuelta:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/vuelta04/stage11/cycling-spain-vuelta-zab-21.jpg
Machin Shin
11-04-05, 07:17 AM
Nobody rests their forearms on the tops while descending at 50mph. The position EURO describes is usually employed on long breakaways or at the front of the peloton over a relatively flat parcours. Check out Dave Zabriskie during his day long solo breakaway during the '04 Vuelta:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/vuelta04/stage11/cycling-spain-vuelta-zab-21.jpg
Thats pretty cool.
I found his bike too...
http://www.roadshark.dk/cervelo_oversigt1_SoloistCARBON1.jpg
(drool, drool)
If I am descending a hill at 50+ mph, I want both hands on the wheel so to speak.
If you are descending a hill at 50+ mph, you aren't pedalling, so I would suggest
1. Tightly hold the bars on the tops, close to the stem
2. Get your chin onto the bars or stem
3. Keep the cranks horizontal, and touch your knees together
4. Stick your but in the air (not sat on the saddle)
This is the fastest position when not pedalling. It's basically a downhill skier position.
I ride with a guy who occasionally does this with both hands off the handlebars, behind his back.
Machin Shin
11-04-05, 01:36 PM
2. Get your chin onto the bars or stem
I ride with a guy who occasionally does this with both hands off the handlebars, behind his back.
You mean he steers the bike with his chin??? :eek: :eek: :eek:
That's a little too "over the top" for me, but I'll try the other things you suggest.
Thanks.
Dante
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