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Heyduke
 
Pholks!

Your advice is needed!

I've only been car-free for a few months while I'm still making the last few payments on the Heep (will be paid off in December). Do I need to point out the irony?

Sure my mentality has changed since purchasing the vehicle 5 years ago, but what deep-down strength does it take to sell one's vehicle after finally being paid off? Help! How do I let go? What's it gonna take?

This is a tough decision...sincere admiration to all of you who are truly car-free and loving life!



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MAD Rider
 
Think of the better use you can put that money and then not having to pay for insurance. Just think if you invested $500 every month for 5 years at 8% You would have $36,738. That would be 6,738 in interest that you would have made. And then if you could do it for 10 years, You'd have $91,473 CASH!!! thats $31,473 in interest you just earned.


Heyduke
 
That's what I need to hear!


MAD Rider
 
Glad I could help. I'm trying to get into a situation where I can just have my motorcycle and no cars, but working full time and going to school full time at night during the week and living in Denver, isn't as easy as I'd like it to be. but I spend more then $500 a month on my car with insurance and gas and insurance and all the little things so yeah ten years of not having to make thoes payments would be very nice


Roody
 
Think about your health. An hour of riding can burn up to 800 calories, depending on your weight and how hard you ride. Even if you just ride 5 days a week, that's as much as 4,000 calories, or more than a pound of body fat. Steady exercize also helps to keep your blood sugar, cholesterol and blood pressure normal. That means less risk of several diseases that commonly kill people prematurely, like diabetes, cardiovascular disease, asthma and even cancer. And the younger you are when you start, the more benefit you will get.


Thor29
 
When I lived in Colorado I probably would've balked at the idea of being car free because I did all the outdoor stuff: mountain biking, rock climbing, skiing. But now that I live in San Francisco and don't own a car, it turns out that I still do a lot of the same things, but I carpool with people who own cars. Since most people in the USA have cars, its not like you're gonna be sitting around with your buddies thinking, "hey, I'd sure like to go skiing, if only one of us had a car..." Nope, that ain't likely.


BeTheChange
 
Thor that was one of my only resignations about getting rid of the car. I was going to do it anyways but I always was wondering how I'd get out to climbing or snowboarding or whatever. You are completely right though. I guess I have found one, the ONLY one thing about the car culture that can be benifical to me. Bumming a ride with friends on the odd occasion that whatever is too far and remote to bike too. I have been biking to go rockclimbing and it makes both harder depending on the distance and dificulty of the climbing. Riding 20 miles with a tired upper body makes for some interesting positions on the bike.


Roody
 
Thor that was one of my only resignations about getting rid of the car. I was going to do it anyways but I always was wondering how I'd get out to climbing or snowboarding or whatever. You are completely right though. I guess I have found one, the ONLY one thing about the car culture that can be benifical to me. Bumming a ride with friends on the odd occasion that whatever is too far and remote to bike too. I have been biking to go rockclimbing and it makes both harder depending on the distance and dificulty of the climbing. Riding 20 miles with a tired upper body makes for some interesting positions on the bike.
But cycling is great cross-training for many other sports (but probably not including rock climbing). For overall fitness, cycling is as good as any sport except, arguably, running and walking. Some people rent cars to get to trailheads, putins, ski areas or climbing spots.

Cycling is great exercize mentally also. Some rides are a great challenge at your current ability and fitness level. Completing such a ride, pushing yourself to finish, makes you feel self-confident and self-reliant. Carfree living can leave you feeling reliant on others, whether it is a bus driver, a train schedule, a taxi dispatcher, or friends who schlepp you around in their cars. But add a bike to the picture, and you are just as free and independent as somebody with a car.

And then there's the fun factor. . . .


CagerTools
 
Yeah, I love the amount of exercise I get now that I am car-lite. In other words, I have a car but don't use it barely at all.

I mean, all the little trips add up. Trip to work, trip to school, to grocery store, to friends house.

Now, if I don't have to go biking anywhere for a day, I still get this weird urge to hop on my bike. Today I just took off and went really far, just to go somewhere. It was alot of fun.


Heyduke
 
Pholks! Thanks for your sincere words and for being my virtual support group!

I have very few excuses right now. Pub is near, food is near, and work is but 11 miles of relatively safe commute with showers when I arrive. I'll have to bum rides to the slopes and far off climbs but so what!

Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile!

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henryblowery
 
"For overall fitness, cycling is as good as any sport except, arguably, running and walking. "
Don't forget swimming-it exercizes your upper and lower body.

Edit-how come my name is red?
Gray


lemurhouse
 
Move to Paris -- they might solve your problem for you!

; )


MAD Rider
 
Move to Paris -- they might solve your problem for you!

; )

I'm planning on moving to Germany so I'll be good there


Roody
 
"For overall fitness, cycling is as good as any sport except, arguably, running and walking. "
Don't forget swimming-it exercizes your upper and lower body.

Edit-how come my name is red?
GrayOK, swimming. But I have read that swimming burns fewer calories than other activities of the same intensity. Also, I think we're kind of supposed to be talking up cycling here. You know... bike forums?

Your name is red because you are logged into the forum. If you weren't logged in, it would be black. I guess you'll just have to take my word for it.


humancongereel
 
the only thing i can add that hasn't been said is politics. if you're like me, you hate this war for oil and so much of the political establishment that encourages it. if enough people withdraw support for that system and what it's wrought, perhaps it'll weaken it, if only a little.

oh, but on the money thing, i want to add: i spent as much on a bike as some people spend on a car that'd be...well, a decent used car for a student or something. BUT i don't spend the money for repairs that would inevitably be needed for such a car (bike repairs are MUCH cheaper, and half of them i can do at home), i don't spend anything on insurance, and i don't spend anything on fuel (unless you want to count pizza and beer...ha ha, you know what i mean). very economical.


MAD Rider
 
oh, but on the money thing, i want to add: i spent as much on a bike as some people spend on a car that'd be...well, a decent used car for a student or something. BUT i don't spend the money for repairs that would inevitably be needed for such a car (bike repairs are MUCH cheaper, and half of them i can do at home), i don't spend anything on insurance, and i don't spend anything on fuel (unless you want to count pizza and beer...ha ha, you know what i mean). very economical.

One thing that I have been thinking about though is the percentage of the cost repairs with the price of the bike compaired with the percentage of the cost of repairs for a car with the cost of the car.


humancongereel
 
i think the percentage is higher, but the actual cost is lower all around. also, everything on a bike is pretty simple, even if you're not running a single speed or fixed gear. you can do half the repairs at home with a few simple tools and basic knowledge.


MAD Rider
 
i think the percentage is higher, but the actual cost is lower all around. also, everything on a bike is pretty simple, even if you're not running a single speed or fixed gear. you can do half the repairs at home with a few simple tools and basic knowledge.


Yeah, I was just thinking about that ...


weed eater
 
Pholks! Thanks for your sincere words and for being my virtual support group!

I have very few excuses right now. Pub is near, food is near, and work is but 11 miles of relatively safe commute with showers when I arrive. I'll have to bum rides to the slopes and far off climbs but so what!


hey, and don't forget you can always just rent a car if you wanna go skiing or into the mountains. renting as-needed is so, so, so much cheaper than owning a car.

good luck and best wishes!


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