BMX - Hopefully a solution for BMXZ

well i dunno about the ret of you but im sick of seeing what about this bike and that bike n this or that.

so i want to attempt to solve his dilema.

so bmxz, what do you:
-plan on doing on your bike
-what is your price range
-how tall are you aproximatly (for tt sizing)
-what are your preferences
-Straight cable, gyro, or brakless
-no pegs, 1 peg, 2 pegs, 3 pegs, 4 pegs?


bmxz, feel free to also ask any questions here.

and to try to keep it all in here becuase it is really hard to figure out what your looking for when you have like 2 million posts.

Heres a few tips for when your choosing your bike:
-Make sure the bike mmets your specifications and not other peoples, becuase they always try to encourage you to follow thier settup.
-Make sure your bike has 3pc cranks.
-Make sure your bike has 14mm axles and sturdy rims
-this is often overlooked when younger people pick bikes (atleast around here), but make sure the frame is all chromoly. hi-tens steel is garbage, might as well have a bike made up of water pipes.


If you go to danscomp (www.danscomp.com), and go to the sale section, and from thier go to complete bikes you will find many 2005 left over models at a marked down price.


And for all you other forum members who are going to be saying im stateing the obvious or anything of the sort, im just trying to help someone just starting bmx. you didnt always know everything about bmx and i bet thats the situation hes in now.

My little bro knows what bike to get.He might get the DK Six Pack, Dk Four Pack, or the Dk Dayton.Its just a matter of is the money worth the parts on the bike.The DK Six Pack we know its worth it but for the The Dayton and The Four Pack is it worth the money.Thats that only problem.Oh and he wants a black bike i know color shouldnt matter but it comes to the performance of the bike but he would want a black bike.Like the DK Four Pack or the Dayton

And for all you other forum members who are going to be saying im stateing the obvious or anything of the sort, im just trying to help someone just starting bmx. you didnt always know everything about bmx and i bet thats the situation hes in now.

Exactly what my little bro was trying to say before.

Exactly what my little bro was trying to say before.

well you did over do it a bit, but as for those bikes i would wait and save up just a little bit more and get the 4 pack. it is in the middle f the prices of the threee bikes. you will also be better off in the long run. the rims on it should hold up fine. it has an integrated headset which is nice. it also has a cassette hub, so someday down the line when your better you can lower the gearing size without having to go out and buy a cassete. not to mention it has fairly small gearing for a complete as is, 33/12. it also has 14mm axles and i havent even bent one of those yet. it also has a euro bb that is sealed.

its definatly a good bike for the money.

and i think it was you asking if you can use a park bike for street or a street bike for park or something like that. as long as you dont get a race bike, youll be able to use your bike for just about every style riding, except for maybie flat. I use the same bike street, park, and trails.

and about your final assembly after shipping, just let a mechanic at a bike shop do it. where you are young and just starting bmx, and you dont know what your doing, it probably wouldnt be smart.

How much is the 4 pack?

*these prices are going by danscomp*

6 pack -$299.99
4 pack -$459.99
dayton - $499.99

my bike has one peice cranks, and 10mm axles. then again, i'm not supposed to beat the cranks, or jump. its a flatland bike.

-how tall are you aproximatly (for tt sizing)

Well my little bro is about 4'9" or 4' 10"

He is mostly gonna do street and freestyle.

His budget is about up to $500.

Brakes- Whatever works fine.What exactly is gyro.Is it better.

Pegs- Posibbly 4 but will buy them later.

DK General Lee $229.99
Hoffman Rythm EL1 $219.99
DK Six Pack $299.99
Fit Pro $329.99
Eastern Shovelhead $349.99


ALL GREAT BEGINNER COMPLETE BIKES....

i would reccomend the DK General Lee becuase of its tt lenght of 20" thats smaller for your short bro...and its lighter stock weight...so he can move it around...and its really affordable and will leave lots of his money aside for later purchases like a flat tire...or new grips...or even a disaster like a bent-beyond-repair wheel or...and iPOD...haha

Pegs- Posibbly 4 but will buy more later.

6 pegs are the minimum for any good freestyler.

6 pegs are the minimum for any good freestyler.
what happened to ...chill out...dont make fun of the guy...hes helping his bro...and then you the moderator "mature" adult of all of us...goes and pokes fun at a mis-type or thing that someone who is trying to help there little bro get into the sport we all share a passion for gets confused...


i dont get it....explain expat...


explain...

i dont get it....explain expat...


explain...

I could have said "You only need 4, you ****. But that's not like me. Instead, I made a sarcastic comment, meant in a jesting way. If he can't figure out that you don't need more than 4 pegs, he's in a world of trouble. And even though I'm a moderator, I'm still allowed to post as myself. Was my post really that mean?

no it wasnt mean..its just......in the other thread..you juuust told me...that when i did the same thing in a different circumstance...it was wrong...

Check the times - I'm pretty sure I posted here first, then lectured. But it still holds true. Someone that doesn't know what a gyro is doesn't need anything more than the most basic bike. And brakes - the kid is 11, anything with a bit of rubber on the pads will stop him. We're talking about a bike for an 11 year old that's new to BMX - it doesn't really matter what he gets. If he's into it, he'll figure out what upgrades to do later. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Don't waste a wad of cash on your first bike, as you won't even know what you want from it until you've been riding a while.

exactly true expat...


but just get he DK GENERAL LEE...its great...woohooo your done...your bros bike is waiting @ www.danscomp.com
DK GENERAL LEE...

ok will everybody stop fighting and Kinetic thank you for fighting against Expatriate.Im sick of people being such HATERS towards me and my bro.I mean he just wants to get into a sport you all love and i bet you guys were once new to it and didnt know jack about it.Now this really wouldnt be mature if we all fought about it. Wanna think about it?Also I_SUCK_AT_BMX was kind enough to atleast start this topic and also to start it nicely and Ex your really not all that great with your sarcasm just cuz i i mess up typing a sentance.

i like ho you messed up the sentence in which you put

"just cuz i i mess up with a sentence"

in which you probably meant to say:

"just because i mess up typing some sentences"

ok will everybody stop fighting and Kinetic thank you for fighting against Expatriate.Im sick of people being such HATERS towards me and my bro.I mean he just wants to get into a sport you all love and i bet you guys were once new to it and didnt know jack about it.Now this really wouldnt be mature if we all fought about it. Wanna think about it?Also I_SUCK_AT_BMX was kind enough to atleast start this topic and also to start it nicely and Ex your really not all that great with your sarcasm just cuz i i mess up typing a sentance.

I'm not here to be popular. You're getting a BMX for an 11 year who's totally new to the sport. As long as it's from a bike shop, it will be fine. You've asked stupid questions, without following up on things. You don't know what a gyro is, how can you know if he needs one? How important are brakes going to be? You asked about 3 piece cranks, but you didn't ask what the differences between 1 piece and 3 piece are, nor did you ask if it matters for the kind of riding he'll be doing. You commented about pegs, yet a kid that small probably won't be able to get a bike with 4 pegs off the ground to grind anything. Blindly asking questions without qualifying them is just annoying. Not asking for clarification of answers shows you don't even appreciate out time.

What have you learned about buying a BMX for an 11 year old, since you've been on here? Show us that you've actually paid attention.

Answer that before you decide to criticize my responses.

I'm not here to be popular. You're getting a BMX for an 11 year who's totally new to the sport. As long as it's from a bike shop, it will be fine. You've asked stupid questions, without following up on things. You don't know what a gyro is, how can you know if he needs one? How important are brakes going to be? You asked about 3 piece cranks, but you didn't ask what the differences between 1 piece and 3 piece are, nor did you ask if it matters for the kind of riding he'll be doing. You commented about pegs, yet a kid that small probably won't be able to get a bike with 4 pegs off the ground to grind anything. Blindly asking questions without qualifying them is just annoying. Not asking for clarification of answers shows you don't even appreciate out time.

What have you learned about buying a BMX for an 11 year old, since you've been on here? Show us that you've actually paid attention.

Answer that before you decide to criticize my responses.

Ok fine you need a 100% 4130 cro-mo frame or else its junk(includes the forks and handlebars to be cro-mo).Need 3 piece cranks with sealed bearings. Thats pretty much it.

Ok fine you need a 100% 4130 cro-mo frame or else its junk(includes the forks and handlebars to be cro-mo).Need 3 piece cranks with sealed bearings. Thats pretty much it.

We're making some progress here. Do you know why need need a full cro-mo frame/fork/bars? And why you want 3 piece over 1 piece?

any other frame we have right now with the technology wont hold up on a jump/s.or they can make frames that will hold really good but it wont be light.So cro-mo is a really good frame that is strong and pretty light.

Cro-mo is stronger than hi-ten steel. Important for big guys, and important for jumping. Same with 3 piece cranks. Stronger than 1 piece, with less maintenance. But if you're an 11 year old noob, it's not really going to matter. He won't break either.

yea but i might use it too me and my lil bro will probably share it so we need a good bike.

Will you need the gyro?

dont know havent learned anything about gyros and dont even know what is it.see u were trying to get me to get more info from you arent you.You were trying to see if i will ask what it is . Oh well what is a gyro

I'm trying to help you make informed decisions. If you're going to spend $500, at least know what you're getting. A gyro allows you to spin your bars around more than 360 degrees, without needing a long brake cable or jacking up your rear brakes. But you don't "Need" one in most cases.

oh that really helps(lol not being sarcastic.)Well do they work any better normal straight cable brakes.

They're a bit of work to set up, and probably cause some loss of efficiency. A longer straight cable works better if you don't need to spin your bars around and around.

Here's the rest of the things you need to look at. Even though you've already been advised which bike to get.

Integrated headsets are nothing more than a marketing gimmick, not a selling point. It's not worth paying extra for one. 14mm axles are stronger than 3/8 inch ones. Hollow ones even make up for the slight weight penalty. 48 spoke wheels offer the most strength, but a properly built 36 spoke wheel will be plenty strong. A chrome back rim is only desirable if you're doing stuff that requires brakes. Plenty of guys ride brakeless. A cassette hub is important for grinding, as it will allow you to run compact gears. If grinding won't be a big issue, you can get by with a freewheel instead.

I think maybe we need a thread about what to get and why. We'll make it a sticky if it's good. Snazzy, Beerman?

He doesnt know it would probably be alot cooler but especially since it would just be the back brake it would really suck. so it would be really hard to stop.

English please? When my cables stretch or break, I'll toss the gyro. They're handy, but not necessary. And properly setting up and maintaining your brakes is the key thing.

dude right now you are helping me and my bro alot thank you so much sorry about being mean earlier just got a bit mad.You know what i mean?

I'm not at all offended, so no need to apologize. I'm going to see if I can get someone to put together a thread to help noobs choose a bike.

dont worry about a gyro, i just run a long straight cable. in my opinion it is a much better set up, unless your going to thro a barspin every 2 feet. with a cable all you have to do is spin your bars back once you've spun them a few times.

i think straight cable works a lot better than gyro, i can never keep a gyro locking up the tire good after a week. this is one of the main reasons i used to ride brakeless, along with the fact i like my bars cut down to 20" wide.

not to mention at least with me i constantly snap gyro cables, straight cables seem to last longer.

Cool ok my bro wants to know how do u really cut down your handlebars?Where do u cut from and how do you put back it together?We are going to get the DK Six Pack and we heard the handlebars are 26" wide and my bro wants it smaller. Like about 22" or maybe a lil smaller.

DK GENERAL LEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssuussssssssss

just stop posting and buy it!

glad your getting the six pack.

to cut your handlebars:::
get a hacksaw or n e other saw that'll work
take an end of the handle bar.
saw from the end that points out.
saw as many inches as you like.
do the same for the other side.

glad your getting the six pack.

to cut your handlebars:::
get a hacksaw or n e other saw that'll work
take an end of the handle bar.
saw from the end that points out.
saw as many inches as you like.
do the same for the other side.
....remeber as Martha Stewart says..."Measure twice, cut once"


make sure you cut an even ammount off each side
and you may have to cut your lever side grip a little to compensate for your brake lever....

do not get the general lee

its frame isnt all cromo

i doubt you will be able to get your bars down to 22" and still fit your brakes. at 20"my grips were touching my top tube. also, wider bars keep the bike more stable, so short bars might not be good were your just starting off.