General Cycling Discussion - Collectors Items?

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willic
10-03-02, 06:41 AM
I was out for my usual cycle ride yesterday.

I was at the 20 mile distance from home, with it being about lunch time I felt rather peckish, as I was near a small Hamlet called "Kirkharle" now this tiny place has its claim to fame as the birthplace and early life of the famous landscape and garden designer, Lancelot"Capability"Brown, Responsible for the design of the parklands and Gardens of famous palaces and grand houses such as Hampton Court, Longleat, Chatsworth House among others.

The centre there has a restaurant that I would not normally stop at (bit pricy and touristy) for a tea and a sandwich.

What caught my eye tho` was the entrance sign describing as newly opened "a cycle Museum" this truly amazed me to find such as this in Deepest rural Northumberland of all places, where cyclists are a rare breed.

Of course i had to see it, and it was worth seeing, as there was a collection of about 2 dozen vintage cycles and various odds and bobs such as old Brooks and Dunlop cycle seats etc.

The Cycles were all in superb condition, the oldest Exhibit being a 1888 Tri-cycle built in Fort William and the most eye catching, a Bike named as a Jordan Built in 1903 in France by a small Garagelite named as a sporting cycle this did not look as though it would look out of place on the road even now, apart from its lack of gearing,

Questioning the Curator i asked if the bikes were at all valuable , she stated that the 1888 tri-cycle alone was insured for £25,000 I don`t know if she was bullsh****g me a bit.

Anyway back to my subject QUESTION, what cycles from the present day would maybe worth preserving and be of value as vintage collectibles in the future.

Perhaps The Trek 52000 ( lances bike) an early Lemond, or Coppi.


Bokkie
10-03-02, 09:29 AM
They might be insured for that but that's not neccesarily the same as the saleable value. The Antiques Roadshow recently showed a bike that was unique for it's age and that had a frame made from bentwood. Their expert valued it about 7000 sterling.

willic
10-04-02, 07:03 AM
Bokkie!

But whats the true value of vintage cycles. Can they be compared with other collectibles such as vintage cars, furniture,ceramics.etc.

£25.000 For an old tri-cycle seems beyond comprehension to me,even if old Queen Vic herself had owned it. :rolleyes:


Bokkie
10-04-02, 07:17 AM
It is silly I admit. I suppose they look upon rarity but having the only surviving item is not an indication of the value. If it were a purely influential design, something that acted as a milestone in the history of bikes, it may be worth something, but tricycles don't really fit that. The penny farthing was possibly something more important and represented the final state before the introduction of the chain and smaller wheels, but a tricycle seems to point to a dead-end of the design.

No-one would ever pay a lot for a Dyson carpet cleaner, but as a design milestone, it eclipsed all other cleaners so perhaps has a greater intrinsic value but nothing you'd consider valuable.

It's daft, eh?

MichaelW
10-04-02, 09:15 AM
One of my friends, an LBS owner is a bit of a vintage bike collector. His most recent find is an early custom made racing Ordinary, with a known history in famous races. I know he is not made of money, and I would be very surprised if he paid more than a couple of £k for it.
Every time I go in he brings out some old goodies he has bought, some Aerlite hubs, a Chater Lea crankset, a 3 speed fixed wheel racing bike.
If you are ever in Norwich, pay a visit to Whippet Cycles.

willic
10-04-02, 09:50 AM
Thanks for that info, Michael.

Sounds like an intruiging shop to visit.

Next time i visit my sister, who lives not to distant from Norwich,(Braintree) I will make a note of that shop name, It will give me an excuse to persuade her to take me, Norwich is always a fine city for rambling through, and stock up on some Mustard! ;)

Regards Willi`c

MichaelW
10-04-02, 02:43 PM
Whipper Cycles
On the corner of Rupert Street and Essex St, behind the old Norfolk and Norwich Hospital, 100m from Chapel Field Gardens.