Bicycle Mechanics - Freewheel question

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tex
10-03-02, 08:35 AM
I have been out of the sport for a while and can't remember what I need... I just got a new set of wheels and need some cogs. I know there used to be free wheels and cassettes, but don't really remember. Anyway, I need a shimano compatable 8 speed _________. What do i ask for? I am planning on finding it on ebay and want to make sure I get the right thing. Thanks!

DD


a2psyklnut
10-03-02, 08:39 AM
Question?

Is you hub threaded or is there a splined ratcheting thingy (Freehub) that the cogs slide onto?

If you have a freehub, you need "an 8 - Speed Cassette".

L8R

pokey
10-03-02, 08:41 AM
New better stuff uses cassettes.Freewheels are still around too. If you hub is splined it takes a cassette, If it has big threads,it takes a screw on freewheel.you also need to match the number of cogs on the whatever to the number os speed in your index? shifters.


tex
10-03-02, 08:41 AM
It is the second... I guess a free hub...

MichaelW
10-03-02, 08:48 AM
Look at the end of the small cogs on your hub. If there is a small lock-ring with arrows for lock and unlock, you have a freehub. If you dont have any cogs on the hub, can you see a splined tube which rotates ? That is a freehub design. You will need a chain whip and a lockring tool to replace the cogs. Time for a visit to your local bike shop ??

Park Tools has a good website to explain more.

tex
10-03-02, 08:53 AM
It does not have any cogs on it, just the splined thingy. LBS's are old fashioned... I know just enough to be dangerous and what I don't know, I find out here:D . I just bought a sweet set of Rigida wheels with bladed spokes from a buddy. I got a heck of a deal and for the first time will have something with radial laced spokes. It is amazing how much this stuff has changed in a short period of time... I remember when radial lacing was "new".

Next question... will I need a new chain? I am going from 7 to 8... baby steps, I know!

pokey
10-03-02, 08:59 AM
If you are putting on a new cassette,start with a new chain too.Your shifters match the number of cogs you are going to have on the rear?????

tex
10-03-02, 09:07 AM
Yeah, I just scored some sti shifters from ebay. I installed them with my 7 speed stuff, the work fine, just have an extra 'click'. I really am fine with 7 speeds, raced for years on 6, even with junior restricted gears... is one more really worth it?

John E
10-04-02, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by tex
... for the first time will have something with radial laced spokes. It is amazing how much this stuff has changed in a short period of time... I remember when radial lacing was "new".

Next question... will I need a new chain? I am going from 7 to 8... baby steps, I know!

I built a radial-laced front wheel in the early 1970s, but I still think cross-laced wheels are more reliable, because the crossed spokes spread any sideward load on the rim. Radial lacing is OK on the left side of a rear wheel (Sheldon has a pretty good article on this), but I have actually seen some factory wheels with radial-laced driveside spokes, which makes no engineering sense whatsoever. I'll stick with what works: 32 or more spokes, in a 3X pattern.

You do not necessarily need a new chain, unless your 8-speed was built up with 9-speed cogs and spacers. However, if your chain has stretched more than 1/16" per 24 half-links, you do need a new chain.

earleybird
10-06-02, 02:03 PM
It's been some time since I upgraded to 8spd from 7 but as I recall you need to extend the axle on the cassette side as the 8 is wider than the 7.
I think I managed to scrounge some axle spacers to increase the axle length but this does push the centre of the wheel over slightly off centre and the axle requires a little more room between the dropouts. (Should really recentre the wheel)
If its an old frame it might be a good idea to get the stays coldset by the LBS for 130mm
I would recommend going for 8 speed it gives a much more even spread of gear ratios
:)