Foo - Seriously sick video...ferrari

Supposedly this is the F-430 the newer one but also getting conflicting reports that its the old F-40, whatever it may be, it's seriously AWESOME.

http://www.dissonant.org.nyud.net:8090/~pjammer/movies/Rendezvous.mov

EDIT: Got more info, filmed in 1978 so its a ferrari 275, more info...http://chasecam.com/rendezvous/

what a jerk of a driver

Well.....there's 3 minutes of my life I'll never get back. :(

the end is so sweet...

i've heard tell that it's a faked video, somewhat. the thought is that the guy's on a motorcycle. not that it matters, he's still an ass.

Supposedly he did this with crew at the intersections telling him when they were clear.

And all for the putang

Rendezvous is possibly the greatest car movie ever made. it's definitely my favorite.

and the director was arrested when the film premeired, so?

if your gonna put up a vid put up one that works...

My horny cat looks like Speilberg compared to the director of that pile or sh1t.

it sounds like hes in 4th or 5th gear going around the arc de triumph (sp?), didnt look like he was going fast at all, and if he was going fast, theres no way he would have much traction on those cobbles.

Plus, you hear the engine keep accelerating and changing gears yet it never appears as though he is going any faster, and hes not going all that much faster than the vehicles that he is overtaking.. a pile of bollox in my opinion..

if your gonna put up a vid put up one that works...
and it works, right click-save as

Plus, you hear the engine keep accelerating and changing gears yet it never appears as though he is going any faster, and hes not going all that much faster than the vehicles that he is overtaking.. a pile of bollox in my opinion..

My thoughts exactly. It sounded as if he was grinding the crap out of the gears on some of those turns, I could be wrong though. And he didn't appear to be going that fast at times, even though the car was reving like mad.

hey, it's need for speed for the rich.
At least its proper use, although a bit dangerous and reckless, of a ferrari, letting it rip at say, around 90+, because its not a commuter car, it's not meant to be sitting in traffic inch foward at 4 mph, like the onces i have seen here in N.Y.C.

I can see the logic.

This is better... and real.
http://www.compfused.com/directlink/987/

My thoughts exactly. It sounded as if he was grinding the crap out of the gears on some of those turns, I could be wrong though. And he didn't appear to be going that fast at times, even though the car was reving like mad.

I wouldn't rely on internet video for guessing speed; the reduced frame rate can be deceptive. The "grinding" you thought you heard was near-perfect downshifting. Given how he was passing traffic, I think he was going plenty fast.

And if that sound doesn't make your hair stand up, check your pulse!

did

My horny cat looks like Speilberg compared to the director of that pile or sh1t.

it sounds like hes in 4th or 5th gear going around the arc de triumph (sp?), didnt look like he was going fast at all, and if he was going fast, theres no way he would have much traction on those cobbles.

Plus, you hear the engine keep accelerating and changing gears yet it never appears as though he is going any faster, and hes not going all that much faster than the vehicles that he is overtaking.. a pile of bollox in my opinion..


A soft enough suspension with good enoug tires will grip cobbies well enough. Rallycross is proof enough that you don't need perfect grip to get around a corner.

I think he was probably useing a tuned-up fiat or some other small cc econo-box...the engine sound was definately not ferrari...it was too raspy to be any kind of v-8 let alone a v-12. There is some prrof of acceleration, just not the "warp drive" acceleration most people expect with that engine sound. If you were in my old 2.3l mustang on the track, it was very much the same way....lots of revving, but it didn't look that fast, until you looked over and realized the speedo was pegged at 2300rpm, and we are now approaching 4000...

Given how he was passing traffic, I think he was going plenty fast.
And if that sound doesn't make your hair stand up, check your pulse!

4th or 5th geat in a FERRARI, he would be travelling SO much faster than other cars, and from what i saw when i was in paris, the speed limit on the champs elysee wasnt all that fast! i think if i was in 4th gear in my civic i would appear to be going faster than the ferrari in that video. i still say its bogus..

keep in mind, Ferrari's could easily do 60mph in second gear, possibly even first.

correction: it was just the copy i had on my computer's sound was crap...that is smooth enough to be a ferarri engine.

A soft enough suspension with good enoug tires will grip cobbies well enough. Rallycross is proof enough that you don't need perfect grip to get around a corner.

You gotta remember that Rally cars are 4 wheel/all wheel drive machines, they had better have good traction. Plus the tires on those cars are extremely thin, with insanely strong sidewalls, thats why they have good traction.

Those cobbles in paris (and in any european city) are full of oil, brake fluid etc. Even walking on them when wet is pretty dangerous (im not saying the video was made when the roads were wet, just trying to make a point)

edit: and not that it matters, but Rally cars are worth about a million dollars. A hell of a lot of engineering goes into those things. They can also do 0-60 on gravel/dirt/snow in under 4 seconds. Absolutly astonishing machines..

Wow. Not bad at all. I've lived in Paris and ridden all around those streets. If I was really bored I could probably drag out my old map of Paris and time a familiar stretch, but from my recollection it does seem like he's going PLENTY fast.

That was some insane stuff, but I think it could be pulled off, what with the help of people at intersections giving the all clear and at some insanely early hour of a Sunday morning. Remember too - this was filmed a quarter of a centry ago.

I believe it - damn the cynics, the sucker in me says this is (mostly) real. I guess it was better for me because I recognised where he was. Cool. Scary.

Remember too - this was filmed a quarter of a centry ago.

Im not quite sure what that has to do with anything, but ok. They are still the same roads and still the same cobbles.

I have no doubts about the video, its just really weak sound editing

Im not quite sure what that has to do with anything, but ok. They are still the same roads and still the same cobbles.

I have no doubts about the video, its just really weak sound editing
I just meant that the amount of pedestrian and automotive traffic back then, especially at that time of day, would be a lot less than you'd probably find now.

I did some more research and the Ferrari used is a 275/GTB launched in 1965, seen here (http://www.atspeedimages.com/pebble_2004/monterey_historics/ferrari_275_gtb_and_augusta_motorcycle_2.jpg) . Also, here (http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2005/Rendezvous.shtml) you can see the break down some math guy did. The top speed of the car looks to be only 136, I mean the car did only top out at 145mph. Still, the film is real, real ferrari and an awesome piece of footage.

There are alot of stories surrounding the Rendezvous footage. I've also read that it was a 275GTB, though from what I know Claude Lelouch has never confirmed this. Even the year it was shot is uncertain. Claude Lelouch claimed he was driving, though there was much speculation it was one of the French F1 drivers. I've also read estimates of 135km/h on the Champ Elysee. Not super quick, but quick on city streets. The low camera certainly gives an impression of high speed. I reckon the most frightening bit is the last bit up to Sacre Coeur. My two bobs worth is that the sound is dubbed but the film is absolutely genuine.

Another good auto film worth tracking down is the footage of Ari Vatinen setting the record up Pikes Peak in a Peugeot. He set the record in the mid 80's - it was only broken recently.

That Ferrari 275 GTB (http://www.supercars.net/garages/DannyG/1v2.html) can actually reach a 166mph top-speed with 300bhp. My car with 247bhp gets 162mph top-speed. The earlier 217bhp version hits 155mph. There just wasn't enough room on city-streets to stretch the Ferrari's legs fully. Here's where you can download that video of Ari Vatanen going up Pikes Peak: http://www.nmd.com.au/downloads_download.cfm?ID=1

Here's the car that won in 2004 at Pikes Peak. Ford RS200 Cosworth 2.4l with ~840bhp driven by Stig Blomqvist. I guess this is the fate of ex-GroupB rally cars... still winning decades later... :)

http://www.mach2racing.com/images/Images%201/PP02222a.jpg (http://mach2racing.co.uk)

Thanks for the info on Pikes Danno. I know Peugeot dealers in Australia were selling the Pikes Peak video, maybe in the States as well?

I got mine as a bonus feature on one of my rally DVDs, "The Evolution of Rallying" or "World's Greatest Rally Cars". Both are PAL videos from NZ, so I don't know if there's a US version available.

An uncompressed 69mb version of that video can be downloaded here http://www.geocities.com/nosro/climbdance (4 servers at bottom).

http://www.geocities.com/n0sr0/climbdance2.txthttp://www.geocities.com/n0sr0/climbdance3.txt
http://www.geocities.com/n0sr0/climbdance4.txthttp://www.geocities.com/n0sr0/climbdance5.txt
http://www.geocities.com/n05r0/climbdance6.txthttp://www.geocities.com/n05r0/climbdance7.txt

Looks like he came millimeters from flying off the mountain and dying in a twisted burning wreck. Don't recall the exact numbers, but I think he hit 180mph or so.

If you guys like car videos, I put together a collection here (mostly crashes & funny stuff): 951racerX videos (http://members.rennlist.com/951_racerx/videos.html). A couple of my own from various racetracks in Cali at the end. Well, I'll just link to them here:

Sears Point - Porsche951vsAudiS4.avi (http://members.rennlist.com/951_racerx/video-Porsche951vsAudiS4.avi) (6.4mb)
Sears Point - Porsche951vs928S4.avi (http://www.gururacing.net/videos/Porsche951vs928S4.avi) (16.2mb)
Willow Springs - 010428WillowSprings.avi (http://www.gururacing.net/videos/Video-010428WillowSprings.avi) (44mb)

All three require the DivX codec v5 or later. If you don't already have it installed, you can get it here: http://www.divx.com (http://www.divx.com/divx/?src=toptab_divx_from_/software/index.php). Download the free "Divx Play Bundle" and run the installer. Do just the codec itself, uncheck the Player and other stuff. Enjoy :)

I don't see him reaching anything over 110-120 or so, 180 is some SERIOUS speed... Do you have the WRC video of the mitsubishi evo rally falling off the side of a mountain? I've only seen a tiny 3 sec clip of that but never the full thing.

Well, videos have a way of actually slowing down the action. If you've ever seen a race live, or even been in one, then watch the video afterwards, it actually looks about 1/2-speed compared to the real thing. There are tricks you can use like wide-angle lenses and putting the camera close to the ground that will give a higher impression of speed, but it still can't convey the actual speeds reached. F1 cars come close to 200mph all the time and the TV-coverage makes it looks like they're strolling through the park. Before the Mulsanne straight got its chicane, the Porsche 962s were hitting 230mph, but you'd never know it from the video. :(

In that Willow Springs video I put up earlier, on the 2nd lap where the white Supra sneaks up on my inside going into turn-8, we're actually going into that corner at about 124mph (135mph later on that session). Coming out of turn-9 where someone gets a tyre off and kicks up the dust, we're exiting at 102mph. About 135mph on the front straight (the Viper guy said he was hitting 150mph). Then about 96mph around turn-1 at the end of the front-straight. Definitely looks about 1/2-speed compared to the real thing (especially at the decimated 15fps I used to trim file-size) . :)

These Pikes Peak cars are unlimited 4wd rally monsters with 800-900bhp+. They've actually evolved well beyond their "Killer-Bs" predecessors that got the class outlawed back in the '80s. Does 0-60 in about 2-seconds, quarter-mile in about 10sec at over 140mph with all four tyres spinning the entire time! With proper gearing, these suckers can hit 250mph+ :eek: !

Ok, found some concrete numbers:

2001 - Tajima Suzuki 132.6mph (http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/motor_sports/1269256.html?page=2&c=y)

Rod Millen beat him, so he's probably hitting even higher speeds.

What year and stage was that Evo crash? I've got a tonne of footage archived, but we're talking hundreds of gigs to dig through here...

Properly geared, a F1 car can hit 250. Properly geared, a 4wd can hit around 140 in a 1/4 mile but not going up a mountain on dirt. If he had a straight section and about 20 seconds, then maybe 180 but I doubt it. Most of the time the guy's sideways except for 4-5 seconds where he's snaking along on a straight.
Mind you, I do appreciate how much power these cars have but there's no way a rally car is achieving F1 performance going up a mountain on dirt.
I've seen F1 when they do the course in the US at indy and when they come around the final corner through the banking across the line at 220mph, it's some serious speed, I mean it's like literally watching someone take a cessna down to 10ft and plowing over the row of bricks.
I don't know when the evo crashed, it was probably in the mid 90's. Not many evo's have fallen off a cliff before or after though.

Ok, ok, I was a little over with my 180mph guess. I saw the F1 in 2002 at Indy too! Also Montreal and Malaysia that year. :) Gonna see if I can dig up that crash off the cliff... Is this the one where they ended up stuck in some trees?

Its driving like this that gets people kill: motorists, motorcyclists, and cyclists alike.

Hmm... that kind of mistaken thinking is exactly why we have so many traffic fatalities to begin with; not properly identifying the problem. Then applying endless amounts of money, energy and legislation in the wrong areas.

Last I checked the majority of the 55,000 annual US traffic fatalities were alcohol-related. The majority of motorycle/cyclist fatalities are caused by the driver not seeing them. The driver was performing a completely normal, everyday, perfectly-legal traffic manuveur at the the time they wiped out the motorcycle/cyclist. Also 75% of all traffic fatalities occur on city-streets at intersections well below the speed-limit. About 3-4% of traffic fatalies occur on the freeway.

Reckless and inattentive driving also doesn't have anything to do with the car you're driving or the speed. Case in point is the guy that mowed down all those people on the 3rd-Street Promenade in Santa Monica a couple years ago... he wasn't going over 20mph, but killed a tonne of people. Or the kid at UCSB hopped up on drugs that killed 4 pedestrians; smashed them into parked cars and ran over them at no more than 15mph...

If we refuse to pass tough DUI-laws like they have in Europe or at least enforce existing ones, the problem will continue to persist. If anything, personally I think they should add a drunk-driving test to the DMV's licensing. In order to get your driver's license, you MUST be able to pass the driving-course with doing FAST lane-changes without losing control, recover a skid on wet-pavement, AND being able to get around an obstacle randomly tossed on the road while performing maximum-braking.... all while sloshed at double the legal limit. If we're not going to get drunk-drivers off the road, then we shouldn't let people who can't drive drunk on the road at all!

I would back that.

Speaking of WRC.. Did you hear that Richard Burns died?!

yeah, what a way to go... :(

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/world_rally/4472642.stm