View Full Version : Local Hummer gets owned!
thebankman
11-25-05, 05:05 PM
Visiting my mother in San Francisco's Mission district today, she pointed out a big white Hummer H2 that had been parked in the alley she lives on for two days. Upon inspection, we found that the two tires facing the sidewalk were flat, I guess deliberately cut, and one of the windows on that side had been smashed out.
When mom told me she thought someone must have been jealous of the car or owner, I thought back to the BF and told her that it probably wasn't jealousy that caused this but anger at the owner for having such a waste of space vehicle. Either that or it was stolen and abandoned there seeing as the owner didn't retrieve their broken Bummer.
+1 for not owning a broke weinermobile!
Alan
humancongereel
11-25-05, 08:49 PM
you know, i don't want to condone wanton destruction of moronic property....
but this thread did make me smile.
one less hummer....for now, at least, and that's better than nothing.
lilHinault
11-26-05, 02:25 AM
In the city of SF, apparently drivers are famous for parking so their cars straddle the sidewalk, making it impossible for others to walk by without going out into the street and getting run over. Annoying for an able-bodied walker, downright criminal for an elderly, disabled, etc person.
In the city of SF, apparently drivers are famous for parking so their cars straddle the sidewalk, making it impossible for others to walk by without going out into the street and getting run over. Annoying for an able-bodied walker, downright criminal for an elderly, disabled, etc person.
This is very common here in Europe, where people insist on parking in narrow streets with narrow sidewalks: they just park on the sidewalk, and screw pedestrians and (more importantly) wheelchair users.
In my bag, I always carry a bunch of sticky signs saying "this isn't a parking space" that I stick on the windshield, right in the middle of the driver's field of vision, whenever I encounter a sidewalk hugger. The signs are made of porous paper, and the glue is terribly sticky and gooey. It takes 3 hours to remove all traces of the sign, and if it rained on it, well... think duct-tape after 3 days in the sun :).
A friend of mine, who is blind, usually starts hitting the car with his cane very hard, as if he was really mad and trying to feel his way around the car, then when the car is nicely done up and scratched, he pulls his cell phone and calls the police to come pick up the car. The police know him very well, and make a point of coming as fast as they can.
Where do you live, and where can I get those stickers?
BeTheChange
11-26-05, 08:38 AM
I just had a good idea. Just keep around a can of sardeins and if a window is open plop them in the car. If not, just open them on the air conditioning intakes at the base of the windshield. You have to take it apart to get the smell out. I know this because in high school I was an offroader and so were some freinds and we were always pulling bad pranks out of somewhere on our vehicles. Oh, and BTW the offroaders hate H2s as well because they are crap. Rock on for the hummer getting P0oned!
Look at the Hummer ads posted between posts #2 and 3 of this tread :p Interesting irony :rolleyes: A Hummer bashing thread generates a series of Hummer ads ;)
Where do you live, and where can I get those stickers?
I got them in Toulouse, France. I no longer live there, but I still have a box of stickers. I had them custom-made: the university I was studying at used to stick similar stickers on student cars parked on teacher spots. I got a few of them on my windshield and that taught me good. When I went car-free years after, I went back to my old alma mater to ask them where they got those gems, and they told me they had them custom-made by a small shop that specializes in custom printing, engraving and banner-making for advertisement and marketing purposes.
When I went to that shop, they had reams of the horrible sticky paper, ready to print nastygrams on, so I had them make me several boxes with "respect bike lanes", "this isn't a parking space", "are you handicapped? I didn't see your placard", "I don't lock my bike on your driveway, don't park on my bike path", "if you were in a wheelchair, you'd hate people who park like you did" and other such messages printed on in bright red, for motorists who parked their cars like pigs. These signs were a big success at my local bike club, and I sold quite a few at a markup to cover my costs.
If you're interested, I can find out exactly what shop it was, but I suppose any such printing shop would be able to help you with a simple custom job like this. Don't go with regular glossy sticker stuff, as they're expensive and easy to remove, but rather sticky paper (it's nothing more than regular printer paper with a sticky side, with a nasty strong duct-tape-ish sort of glue).
Just so you know though, I had several close calls with the owners of the vehicles I was tagging (either they were close-by, watching out for meter maids, or they were coming back to their cars while I was doing my deed) and a couple of times, I managed to ride away just in time before getting a punch in the face. Also, I think such guerilla activism is illegal, because it's probably akin to voluntary degradation of property and vigilantism. Not to mention, it arguably does a disservice to the car-free movement at it paints all cyclists as hysterical leftist nutjobs who respect nothing to push their agenda. I always used my stickers only on the very worst offenders, because usually these guys don't care about anything outside their cars anyway, but still, if you do it, be careful not to ruin it for everybody else.
In my bag, I always carry a bunch of sticky signs saying "this isn't a parking space" that I stick on the windshield, right in the middle of the driver's field of vision, whenever I encounter a sidewalk hugger. The signs are made of porous paper, and the glue is terribly sticky and gooey. It takes 3 hours to remove all traces of the sign, and if it rained on it, well... think duct-tape after 3 days in the sun :).
That's just too cool.
Look at the Hummer ads posted between posts #2 and 3 of this tread :p Interesting irony :rolleyes: A Hummer bashing thread generates a series of Hummer ads ;)
What in the H are ads for Hummers doing in this forum?
What in the H are ads for Hummers doing in this forum?
I assume some kind of 'bot saw the word Hummer and the ad was automatically put in.
bikeybikebike
11-26-05, 09:19 PM
i believe you meant to say "PWNED" :D
humancongereel
11-26-05, 09:27 PM
Not to mention, it arguably does a disservice to the car-free movement at it paints all cyclists as hysterical leftist nutjobs who respect nothing to push their agenda. I always used my stickers only on the very worst offenders, because usually these guys don't care about anything outside their cars anyway, but still, if you do it, be careful not to ruin it for everybody else.
the hummers and a great many drivers are already ruining it for everyone else, and painting themselves as hysterical (g)*******s any time someone outside a car sticks up for their own rights.
lilHinault
11-26-05, 10:28 PM
I think just "wheat paste" and ordinary paper will make a good sticky um, sticker, political types who put up posters swear by wheat paste, and apparently it works so well it's outlawed in some areas - I think it's just wheat flour + water.
ViciousCycle
11-27-05, 04:42 AM
A H*mmer is a mock-up of a large military vehicle. Push a baby stroller through a cross-walk where one of these gigantic vehicles is looming over you, and you may get the creepy feeling that the H*mmer is part of some military invasion force. A commercial H*mmer is inefficient at moving cargo around; it is inefficient at moving people around; its main purpose seems to be to make pedestrians and small vehicles feel unwelcome on their own streets. If the H*mmer driver wants to "play soldier", why don't they just get some toy plastic soldiers and head for their own backyard sandbox?
A H*mmer is a mock-up of a large military vehicle.
I'm no specialist, but I was under the impression that the H1 was the genuine article, and the H2 is a Chevy Tahoe in disguise, am I wrong? at least one of the models would be a true large military vehicle, or close enough.
At any rate, neither a civilian H1, H2 or a Tahoe has any real reason to exist on the road today...
brokenrobot
11-27-05, 08:04 AM
A H*mmer is a mock-up of a large military vehicle. Push a baby stroller through a cross-walk where one of these gigantic vehicles is looming over you, and you may get the creepy feeling that the H*mmer is part of some military invasion force. A commercial H*mmer is inefficient at moving cargo around; it is inefficient at moving people around; its main purpose seems to be to make pedestrians and small vehicles feel unwelcome on their own streets. If the H*mmer driver wants to "play soldier", why don't they just get some toy plastic soldiers and head for their own backyard sandbox?
Exactly. This is a vehicle designed for a specific task: killing people outside it - or in the case of the newer models, designed to LOOK like a killing machine. And those of us outside them who find them threatening and want them out of our communities are the wackos?!
lilHinault
11-27-05, 10:05 PM
I want to see the predecessor of the Hummer on the street, the eternally-ugly Gamma Goat.
KrisPistofferson
11-27-05, 10:10 PM
Wheat paste
Prepare 1 cup (2.4 dl) of very hot water. Make a thin mixture of 3 tablespoons (45 ml) of white flour and cold water (just enough to wet all the flour and make it liquid enough to pour). Pour the cold mixture slowly into the hot water while stirring constantly. Bring to a boil. When it thickens, allow to cool. Smear on like any other glue. For slightly better strength, add 1 tablespoon (15 ml) of sugar after the glue is thickened. After using a portion, reheat the remaining in a covered jar or container to sterilize it for storage or keep refrigerated. If wheat flour is not available, other flours will work.
attercoppe
11-27-05, 10:20 PM
I've never made this, but I'd imagine you'd want to remove the paste from the pan you cooked it in pretty quickly, probably before it cools, then wash that pan immediately. Not that flour and water is toxic or anything, but as it dries it probably sticks to the pan like...well, you know.
KrisPistofferson
11-27-05, 10:25 PM
I've never made this, but I'd imagine you'd want to remove the paste from the pan you cooked it in pretty quickly, probably before it cools, then wash that pan immediately. Not that flour and water is toxic or anything, but as it dries it probably sticks to the pan like...well, you know.
Putting it in a thermos is the best way to keep it at the proper temperature.
Not to mention, it arguably does a disservice to the car-free movement at it paints all cyclists as hysterical leftist nutjobs.
Well, in my case, if the shoe fits.....
I'm no specialist, but I was under the impression that the H1 was the genuine article, and the H2 is a Chevy Tahoe in disguise, am I wrong? at least one of the models would be a true large military vehicle, or close enough.
At any rate, neither a civilian H1, H2 or a Tahoe has any real reason to exist on the road today...
Yes you are correct.
Am H2 is just a Chevy Tahoe with more squarish body pieces.
That squarish look really seems to get peoples panties all knotted up.
They are fine when they are full of people or towng, you can't say they should not exist, anymore than a pickup or a Subaru that only gets 20mpg should exist, but it is a bad choice for a commuter.
SamHouston
11-28-05, 05:48 AM
Vans, pickup trucks, and SUVs that weigh more than 8,500 pounds gross vehicle weight are classified as heavy-duty vehicles. HUMMERs fall into that category (and one uses diesel fuel). Fuel economy regulations do not apply to them, but here are a few related facts:
2004 Hummer H1
* 6.5L turbo-diesel V-8.
* Fuel tank holds 25 gallons.
* Has a cruising range of 400 miles at an average of 30-40 mph over a hard surface and rolling terrain.
* That's 16 mpg.
2004 HUMMER H2 SUV
* Vortec 6000 6.0L V-8.
* Fuel tank holds 32 gallons.
* Cruising range of 310 miles at an average of 30-40 mph over a hard surface and rolling terrain.
* That's 9.6 mpg.
2004 HUMMER H2 SUT
* Vortec 6000 6.0L V-8.
* Fuel tank holds 32 gallons.
* No cruising range given.
Gas mileage figures are not posted on Hummer window stickers because the car weighs so much it is exempt from mileage-reporting requirements. It outweighs the Tahoe by almost 3000 pounds and requires the 6L Vortec 6000 V8 as opposed to the Tahoe with its 4800 (2wd) or 5300 (4wd) Vortec engine.
While the diesel Hummers mileage matches the Tahoe 4wd, the gas Hummers mileage is dramatically worse.
* Fuel tank holds 32 gallons.
* No cruising range given.
Gas mileage figures are not posted on Hummer window stickers because the car weighs so much it is exempt from mileage-reporting requirements. It outweighs the Tahoe by almost 3000 pounds and requires the 6L Vortec 6000 V8 as opposed to the Tahoe with its 4800 (2wd) or 5300 (4wd) Vortec engine.
While the diesel Hummers mileage matches the Tahoe 4wd, the gas Hummers mileage is dramatically worse.
I have no idea where you get your figures, but the H2 is listed at 13/16 mpg epa.
bikewench
11-28-05, 06:33 AM
Marking pen on glass works as well...
And you can custom design your own message based on the actual situation... ;o)
And although they won't be scraping off goo with a spatula... they still have to get soap and water and do some cleaning....
and they get to think about the message while their doing it...
plus...
I'd feel a tad humiliated if someone wrote a "social conscience" message on my window for all passerby's to see... and have them see me react and deal with it.
mgilman
12-02-05, 06:00 PM
listen to the hostility in everyones posts.it is your choice to be carfree,just as it is theirs to drive an H2.Tagging or vandalizing someones personal property because they parked wrong or they drive a vehicle that you deem irresponsible is ridiculous.i thought this forum was for discussing the pros and cons of living carfree,not to trade recipes or techniques on how to vandalize.unbelievable.
humancongereel
12-02-05, 11:47 PM
listen to the hostility in everyones posts.it is your choice to be carfree,just as it is theirs to drive an H2.Tagging or vandalizing someones personal property because they parked wrong or they drive a vehicle that you deem irresponsible is ridiculous.i thought this forum was for discussing the pros and cons of living carfree,not to trade recipes or techniques on how to vandalize.unbelievable.
and their choice effects everyone for the worse. by your argument, if i choose to bathe in vomit and walk around, other people shouldn't get offended by my stench. it's just my choice.
and these things don't just pollute the air, they have political ramifications. increasing depenence of foreign oil (as all cars do, but the lowe the mpg, the more so). getting in an accident with one is a prospect i wouldn't like to consider, even in a car. they're dirty, unneccessary, dangerous, and perhaps vandalism is extreme, but please...don't defend them
listen to the hostility in everyones posts.it is your choice to be carfree,just as it is theirs to drive an H2.Tagging or vandalizing someones personal property because they parked wrong or they drive a vehicle that you deem irresponsible is ridiculous.i thought this forum was for discussing the pros and cons of living carfree,not to trade recipes or techniques on how to vandalize.unbelievable.
Great post.
and their choice effects everyone for the worse. by your argument, if i choose to bathe in vomit and walk around, other people shouldn't get offended by my stench. it's just my choice.
and these things don't just pollute the air, they have political ramifications. increasing depenence of foreign oil (as all cars do, but the lowe the mpg, the more so). getting in an accident with one is a prospect i wouldn't like to consider, even in a car. they're dirty, unneccessary, dangerous, and perhaps vandalism is extreme, but please...don't defend them
Everyone has justifications for doing bad things. If you are "living car free" because you are "insecure, unhappy and angry" than the H2 is the least of your problems.
I hate H2's but letting that control your life? Come on, get a frickin' grip.
humancongereel
12-03-05, 02:38 AM
nah, it's not a big thing that i think about every day...hummers are just one thing among many that i think are total bull****, and i'd never do anything to one, but i'm glad when i hear about bad things happening to them. i don't know about insecure or unhappy so much, and i don't like the term "angry", but yeah, there are some things that get me worked up. and, you know, since this thread is about that, i figured it's a decent spot to air those problems. it hardly controls my life. it just seemed this was the appropriate spot to bring such things up--a thread abouit hummers.
Jerseysbest
12-03-05, 08:03 AM
listen to the hostility in everyones posts.it is your choice to be carfree,just as it is theirs to drive an H2.Tagging or vandalizing someones personal property because they parked wrong or they drive a vehicle that you deem irresponsible is ridiculous.i thought this forum was for discussing the pros and cons of living carfree,not to trade recipes or techniques on how to vandalize.unbelievable.
I almost agree with you, but when someone parks illegally in a handicap stop or blocking the the sidewalk for disabled people, they're just asking for it, from a meter maid walking by or someone who's might put a sticker on there windshield. Quite frankly, the sticker isnt going to cost you any money, just some time at home to remove it where you'll have to think of what you did, probably a lot more effective then a slap on the wrist parking ticket that someone probably won't pay.
I dont think putting a sticker on a H2 is cool at all, thats just asking for an ass kicking.
They are fine when they are full of people or towng, you can't say they should not exist, anymore than a pickup or a Subaru that only gets 20mpg should exist, but it is a bad choice for a commuter.
Well said.
I'm always amused when my motorcyclist friends (also an addiction of mine) rant about the inefficiency of a big SUV. Put two people in an SUV and you've got a vehicle getting nearly the same mpg per person as a big hard ridden motorcycle. Put three or more and the SUV wins that comparison. Nevermind the cleaner emissions of the SUV.
Two wheeled transportation isn't for everyone and isn't suitable for every situation.
karmical
12-03-05, 09:44 AM
listen to the hostility in everyones posts.it is your choice to be carfree,just as it is theirs to drive an H2.Tagging or vandalizing someones personal property because they parked wrong or they drive a vehicle that you deem irresponsible is ridiculous.i thought this forum was for discussing the pros and cons of living carfree,not to trade recipes or techniques on how to vandalize.unbelievable.
great post...
i have been carfree for years but have several friends that drive hummers, i will admit i laughed to their individual faces when they shared paying up to $160 a couple times a week to fill it, still makes me shake my head in disbelief, but thats the lifestyle they choose to live, just as i choose to ride my bike and do this carefree thing..
i mean i wouldn't want someone that walked that walk messing with one of my bikes because they weren't into the carfree thing.
and i don't know where all the rest of you live but with regards to enviromental damages and the rest of that lame argument against these things, daily i see smoking 4 cylinder cars and motorcyles that are spewing more exhaust into the air than a brand spanking new suv beast, and i will not mention the smoking have to add 1 qt of oil along with gas type 8cylinders, but whatever, to each their own.
i mean i wouldn't want someone that walked that walk messing with one of my bikes because they weren't into the carfree thing.
There is a slight difference: you don't pollute the air your hummer friends breathe with your bike, and you don't contribute to global warming like a pig. They do. In this day and age, where oil scarcity will soon become a cruel reality for all of us here on Earth, especially in poor countries, and where environmental changes are almost indisputably linked to the burning of fossil fuels, gross oil overconsumption by spoiled rich westerners such as your friends for the sake of their "lifestyle choices" should be heavily taxed, if not explicitely forbidden by law.
I'm not arguing that gasoline-powered vehicles remain a necessity for all of us, even we car-free people, but imho people who use more gas than they reasonably need should lend in court, or at the very least have their bank account copiously emptied for the priviledge of doing less than their normal part to preserve the world's environment and energy supplies. That should includes, by the way, people who ride ridiculously overpowered motorcycles.
That's if rich western countries cared about the rest of the world, of course. Since they don't...
karmical
12-03-05, 10:12 AM
There is a slight difference: you don't pollute the air your hummer friends breathe with your bike, and you don't contribute to global warming like a pig. They do.
well sure i do, just in different ways, and unless you're living in a cave and ride a bicycle made from sticks and stones, and are accessing the internet via a solar powered ham-radio diy number, you are as well but to a less degree than that of their lifestyle embraces...
i have to go and ride to work now, i'll pick this up tonight...
well sure i do, just in different ways, and unless you're living in a cave and ride a bicycle made from sticks and stones, and are accessing the internet via a solar powered ham-radio diy number, you are as well but to a less degree than that of their lifestyle embraces...
I was only referring to oil consumption through means of transportation. I am well aware that a car-free individual consumes only marginally less oil than someone with a car overall. What I was saying was that someone who insists on wasting limited energy resources that the entire world needs *needlessly*, just for his/her little pleasure, just because he can, should pay the price. Having a small car to go to work isn't a needless waste of oil. Building a bike, a one-off energy expenditure, isn't either. Running a multi-ton SUV to show off however, is.
It should be about the size of your environmental footprint, and not the size of your wallet...you can shout about freedom of choice all you want, but there should be a point beyond which lifestyle choices become secondary to the common good.
you can shout about freedom of choice all you want, but there should be a point beyond which lifestyle choices become secondary to the common good.
And this would actually mean something if it was written on a LAW or ORDINANCE. The problem is, people live by the law of the land----- not by YOUR law. THAT is what makes this country what it is.
So in the end, no, there is no personal justification for damage or destruction of property. That is why bombing a womens' health clinic or abortion center is illegal. I'm sure those bombers feel 100% justified in destroying property and killing people.
Since the only reason the H2 exists is for poser-value (they cannot offroad, don't have much interior space and are no good in the city) think about what would hurt them most.
Think about the H2 owner mentality. Anger begets anger, why fall into that? Weak minds will always follow the base instincts.
The worst thing you can do to a H2 owner is ignore them.
thebankman
12-03-05, 04:19 PM
I didn't mean to advocate vandalizing Hummer poser-utilized vehicles, but I have no problem laughing at such a vandalized vehicle when I see it.
Update: I checked back a couple days later and the piece of junk is still there. I peered inside the broken window and found a bunch of junk, old clothes and the like, so apparently the H2 is good for one thing: keeping homeless people warm at night. If someone can make a nice home out of this abandoned vehicle, that's a good thing :)
Also, this is the truck model with a totally useless truck bed in the rear, and people are starting to throw their trash back there as they walk by. Sweet justice!
My mom called the police and told them about this problem, the cops said they'll send the Department of Parking and Traffic out to mark the vehicle and will have it towed if the owner doesn't move it in a week. They said it's possible that it's stolen or outright abandoned, but they can't do any immediate action until a week has passed.
Well there you have it. An H2 turned into a bum's new mansion. Fantastic.
thebankman
12-05-05, 10:14 AM
The car has been towed by the city. Goodbye stupid jerk-mobile.
zorak8me
12-05-05, 01:19 PM
I almost agree with you, but when someone parks illegally in a handicap stop or blocking the the sidewalk for disabled people, they're just asking for it, from a meter maid walking by or someone who's might put a sticker on there windshield. Quite frankly, the sticker isnt going to cost you any money, just some time at home to remove it where you'll have to think of what you did, probably a lot more effective then a slap on the wrist parking ticket that someone probably won't pay.
I dont think putting a sticker on a H2 is cool at all, thats just asking for an ass kicking.
That is exactly what I was going to say. If you read the forum, the guy only stickers cars that are parked on sidewalks and bikelanes.
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