Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - How are the Miche Primato Track Hubs?

Just wondering how these hubs are for the daily commute.
Does anyone regularly use these?

I like mine alot. I didn't use the Miche track cog though as I had heard that they have a bit of play after awhile. I bought a Dura Ace one instead. I got mine cheapish on eBay, 90$USD shipped, but Urbane sells them as well. The bearings are sweet...takes forever for the wheel to stop once they start ;) Oh yeah, they come with their own lockring too. I got the 28 hole ones, but I should probably have gotten the 36s, I just had rims that were 28.

They're quite good for street use.

*ahem* ... Cycle Therapy also sells them. Maybe you can get a deal if you ask real nice. ;)

Edit: I would also suggest the Formula track hubs ... another "best bang for the buck" option.

Where is Cycle Therapy? I've heard of it but never seen it.

So do you guys build up your own wheels or do you go to shops and get them to build it up for you?
One of my MTB friends said it costs like dollar fifty a spoke if you get it handbuilt by a shop.

If you have never built a wheel before, letting a shop do it might be the way to go. Or you can ask your shop to help you build it, and while you might not save any money, you learn a skill, or at least learn why us wrenches charge so damn much.

Save a mechanic from sobriety. See your local shop.

So do you guys build up your own wheels or do you go to shops and get them to build it up for you?
One of my MTB friends said it costs like dollar fifty a spoke if you get it handbuilt by a shop.

I build my own. The price of spokes depends on what kind you get and the shop you are buying from. I paid $1.50 each for some double butted spokes yesterday but that was only because I was too impatient to order online. Wheel building takes practice to get good at it. However it's fun and I find it very relaxing.

That said I have a set of Velocity/Formula wheels and another set of wheels with Miche hubs and they have both been very reliable on the road and relatively inexpensive. The only thing I didn't like about the Miche hubs was the quality of the lockring. It uses the same lockring threading as Campagnolo and Phil hubs.

Learn to build! Its not that hard, and it will make wheel-truing that much easier in the future. Very zen as well.

I used SB's instructions for the first few times, but next time I do it, I'm going to use a tensionometer--only problem is that it almost seems like cheating.

The only problem ive had with these hubs, is when the rear bearing wore out after about 6 months. i tried to get them out, but split the bearing up, and now the outer shell is stuck in the hub, rendering it useless because i cant be bothered to get it out...i'd probably have toheat it up or something.
anyway, basically the bearing in the hubs are pretty shoddy ones, but i bought some top qualty ones from a bearing shop or £2 each. they are much much better. its worth replacing them straight away if you intened to keep the hubs for a long time, it makes so much difference.

Cycle Therapy's on Dundas, between Carlaw and Pape.

Cycle Therapy's on Dundas, between Carlaw and Pape.

that's Keith right?
great shop
he ever get a website up?

No, you're thinking Cavern Cycles on Queen + Jarvis, which yes - is a great shop. I don't know if they've got a site up though.

No, you're thinking Cavern Cycles on Queen + Jarvis, which yes - is a great shop. I don't know if they've got a site up though.

ah yeah.
when I was up there last spring Keith was talking about doin' his own track frame.

i like mine so far. super smooth.

Just wondering how these hubs are for the daily commute.
Does anyone regularly use these?

i ride 'em for mess'ing and have done so for almost exactly 6 months now and i have had no problems whatsoever. seem to be quality and durable hubs for a reasonable price.

[QUOTE=onelesscar]The only problem ive had with these hubs, is when the rear bearing wore out after about 6 months. i tried to get them out, but split the bearing up, and now the outer shell is stuck in the hub, rendering it useless because i cant be bothered to get it out...i'd probably have toheat it up or something.
Get a dremel with a carbide bit....VERY CAREFULLY grind opposing notches in the bearing ring....take yer time..be careful not to notch the aluminum.....it will come out. I have done this successfully a handful of times.

I bought a fixed gear bike with a Miche Primato hub on it and I don't know how to figure out if it is a "Primato Pista - Flangia Piccola" or "Primato Pista - Flangia Grande" hub. Any advice on how to figure this out?

http://www.miche.it/en/catalogo/catalogo-miche/mozzi

Thanks

Piccola is Italian for small, Grande is Italian for big.

Are they high flange or low flange? That's pretty much it.

Flangia piccola = low flange.

http://www.miche.it/modules/Cataloger/Cataloger.Image.php?i=mozzi-primato-pista---flangia-piccola_s_1_160_1.jpg&ac=22262

Grande = high flange.

http://www.miche.it/modules/Cataloger/Cataloger.Image.php?i=mozzi-primato-pista---flangia-grande_s_1_160_1.jpg&ac=95171


For lack of a better explanation, the flange is the outer plate-ish thing where the spoke holes are drilled. Do you have a picture of your hubs?

http://blogs.federaltimes.com/federal-times-blog/files/2009/12/thriller2.jpg

http://blogs.federaltimes.com/federal-times-blog/files/2009/12/thriller2.jpg

At least OP was using the search function.

they are solid and smooth hubs.. keep in mind they also use a proprietary cog carrier and cog system.http://www.worldclasscycles.com/miche_cog_carrier.jpg

pretty simple, but throws folks off because its not a traditional cog straight to hub setup..

I've built a few wheelsets with Miche pista hubs, and every customer has been very happy with the quality. As noted, they use an Italian thread lockring, but any cog will work fine.

they are solid and smooth hubs.. keep in mind they also use a proprietary cog carrier and cog system.

pretty simple, but throws folks off because its not a traditional cog straight to hub setup..

Miche cogs use a proprietary carrier system. Miche hubs do not.

I've got a Miche Express wheelset on my Hillbrick. She gets ridden all year round (from wet and horrid in winter through to 100+F in summer), on any road surface urban living throws at you. I'm a big bloke (110 kg) and most rides have a pannier full of kit on the back as well because I commute on her. In other words, these wheels and their hubs have been solidly tested. After over 2 years of this use, the wheels are still true and the hubs still smooth and silky. I'm happy.

Miche cogs use a proprietary carrier system. Miche hubs do not.

So many people are under the impression that you MUST use the Miche carrier system on Miche hubs. I even had a customer argue with me and call me bad words on the phone once when I tried explaining that you can use any English-threaded cog.

Flangia piccola = low flange.

http://www.miche.it/modules/Cataloger/Cataloger.Image.php?i=mozzi-primato-pista---flangia-piccola_s_1_160_1.jpg&ac=22262

Grande = high flange.

http://www.miche.it/modules/Cataloger/Cataloger.Image.php?i=mozzi-primato-pista---flangia-grande_s_1_160_1.jpg&ac=95171

So essentially I can just look at the height of the flanges...
Fairly positive that I have a low flange.

Thanks

I have a set of primato hubs that came on pistard wheels. I like the hubs a lot, very smooth, and they spin forever. I have used formula branded hubs, and hed 3's. The primato hubs spin much better than the formulas, and I can't tell the difference between them and the HED 3 bearings. I've had them for about 2 months now.