Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - old school helmet like this...where??

anyone know where can I get one?

http://tinypic.com/ibjnzn.jpg

ask jitensha, i believe he rocked one in chicago; or one very much like it.

anyone know where can I get one?


Bunch of places online sell hairnets like this, pop up on ebay all the time.

Good for style, bad for your head, offer very little protection in a crash.

See http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=71057&highlight=hairnet and try searching for hairnet.

There is one at Yojimbo's. I don't know whether it's for sale or not, but I invariably pick it up whenever I'm there.

I've been told they are sorta good for keeping your ears from shearing off in certain crashes, but don't count on it.

Probably could find one on a coma patient somewhere. Perhaps a corpse.

I figure it would prob be a little better than my current helmet...cotton knitted top hat

I think you'll have the same level of protection if you wear 4 beanies at a time.

yeah, that's not a helmet. that's padding.

big difference.

La Bicicletta here in Toronto has tons of em. They are all black with the Rossin "R" logo on the sides. They do mail order from their website. Not much protection but you will look stylin' when you are on the deck, knocked out.

ok...so maybe these head pads don't offer an ioda of the protection that one of those ugly bulky styrofoam helmets do,

but...
what's this with everyone talklin' bout being knocked out on the deck and comatose and all this business ???

how often do you all USE your helmets and heads when you fall?

I'll prob just continue riding without a helmet, and will continue falling from time to time (mostly at .4 mph speeds) ...not having a helmet makes me NOT opt to use my head as a cushion when I fall

you can still get head/brain damage knocking your head around with a football helmet/motorcycle helmet/figterjet helmet, or anything else strapped to your head...don't get too comfortable just cause you have a space dome on your knot

I'm not saying that a helmet is not a good thing...it is, and I'm sure it comes in handy at the most critical moments...
I try to avoid those tho...

I still think riding my bicycle without a helmet (natty hair bush included) is safter than driving a car...(at least it has been so far)

and it begins...

i have a cinelli one like the one pictured, I'll sell it for 50 bucks

http://ckdu.dal.ca/~mcatano/helmet2.jpg

C'est tout.

i have a cinelli one like the one pictured, I'll sell it for 50 bucks

50 bucks?...damn

what size and color?

for 50 bucks i bet you could get the 4 beanies mentioned earlier.

Wow, way to rationalize style over your own personal safety. Natural selection's going to love you, man.

what?!?! helmets are totally cool!



ok...so maybe these head pads don't offer an ioda of the protection that one of those ugly bulky styrofoam helmets do,

ok...so maybe these head pads don't offer an ioda of the protection that one of those ugly bulky styrofoam helmets do,

but...
what's this with everyone talklin' bout being knocked out on the deck and comatose and all this business ???

how often do you all USE your helmets and heads when you fall?

I'll prob just continue riding without a helmet, and will continue falling from time to time (mostly at .4 mph speeds) ...not having a helmet makes me NOT opt to use my head as a cushion when I fall

you can still get head/brain damage knocking your head around with a football helmet/motorcycle helmet/figterjet helmet, or anything else strapped to your head...don't get too comfortable just cause you have a space dome on your knot

I'm not saying that a helmet is not a good thing...it is, and I'm sure it comes in handy at the most critical moments...
I try to avoid those tho...

I still think riding my bicycle without a helmet (natty hair bush included) is safter than driving a car...(at least it has been so far)

As long as you carry a doner card you will be fine. You don't want to waste perfectly good body parts while waiting for the authorities to determine what your wishes WERE.

ask jitensha, i believe he rocked one in chicago; or one very much like it.

i got mine on ebay. they look hella cool, but that's about it.

Wow, way to rationalize style over your own personal safety. Natural selection's going to love you, man.

wow...what a cynical bunch of .... um...people

maybe I just grew up in a different world than you all...where it wasn't blasphemy or suicide or even crazy to ride a bicycle without a helmet

and I never said anything about style...I don't wear a helmet for comfort/convenience/practicality reasons

i got mine on ebay. they look hella cool, but that's about it.

did you get it off of an auction or did you get if from that bannana brain vintage store place?

no one is arguing the merits of riding with helmets. It's just seems a bit vain to not like to wear a helmet, but want to wear a hairnet cuz it looks cool.

I'd rather not wear a helmet than wear the hairnet(eventhough it does look nice) and feel good that I didn't spend 50 bucks to put a completely useless piece of leather on my head. thats all...

wow...what a cynical bunch of .... um...people

maybe I just grew up in a different world than you all...where it wasn't blasphemy or suicide or even crazy to ride a bicycle without a helmet

and I never said anything about style...I don't wear a helmet for comfort/convenience/practicality reasons

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"don't jinx yasselves" says the lord of the crossroads

"don't jinx yasselves" says the lord of the crossroads

i'm already registered.

I vote this thread of the week.

They look really cool, and I chose not to wear a helmet sometimes too.

You makes your choices you takes your risks. that's cool. If everyone here were that concerned about safety, they would stay home instead of riding those crazy fixed gear bicycles.

BUT don't kid yourself into thinking those things will protect your head. they won't. Wear it for fashion fine. Doing risky things is fine as long as you understand the risks. Make your own choices, but let them be informed choices.

no one is arguing the merits of riding with helmets. It's just seems a bit vain to not like to wear a helmet, but want to wear a hairnet cuz it looks cool.

I'd rather not wear a helmet than wear the hairnet(eventhough it does look nice) and feel good that I didn't spend 50 bucks to put a completely useless piece of leather on my head. thats all...

's vain to not like to carry around a bulky piece of styrofoam?...nah fam...'s not that at all ...to each their own
speak for your self instead of saying what no one is saying...that' great that you'd rather not use the hairnet ...although you do contradict yourself and say that it does look nice....do you not wear hats other than in the winter because they are completely useless too?

i'm already registered.

that's great

Man, work is slow today...

C'mon...turn into another "red ***ing lights" thread...

I don't use the hairnet because I don't want to spend the money for something that I think is a waste of money, it has nothing to do with it looking nice or not. I don't wear hats except for winter and only beanies to keep my head warm. I'm not a hat person, what can I say. I do use helmets... sometimes...

I didn't mean to call ya vain, couldn't find a suitable word in my limited vocabulary.

did you get it off of an auction or did you get if from that bannana brain vintage store place?


it's been a couple of years, but i think i did get it from banana brain. not sure if he has any more.

there are black cinelli ones on ebay a lot... the carrera ones look better, but are just a glorified cycling cap

do you not wear hats other than in the winter because they are completely useless too?

I find hats useful all year round. They keep the sun off my eyes when it's sunny, rain off my face when it rains, and some day when you grow up (if you live long enough) you might find they are even more important for protecting bald heads from the sun.

They look really cool, and I chose not to wear a helmet sometimes too.

You makes your choices you takes your risks. that's cool. If everyone here were that concerned about safety, they would stay home instead of riding those crazy fixed gear bicycles.

BUT don't kid yourself into thinking those things will protect your head. they won't. Wear it for fashion fine. Doing risky things is fine as long as you understand the risks. Make your own choices, but let them be informed choices.

well said...

no I'm not going to kid myself into thinking they have the protection that the bulky styrofoam joints have...but no one should kid themselves into thinking that those will protect your head either... I'm not ranking protection level..

I do know (again...drawing upon my past Physics 201 experience) that 4 beanies (as previously posted) WILL provide more protection than a bald head...just like my natty bush will provide more protection than a bald head...just like those little cool ass looking old school leather thingies WILL provide more protection than a bald head...

well said...

no I'm not going to kid myself into thinking they have the protection that the bulky styrofoam joints have...but no one should kid themselves into thinking that those will protect your head either... I'm not ranking protection level..

I do know (again...drawing upon my past Physics 201 experience) that 4 beanies (as previously posted) WILL provide more protection than a bald head...just like my natty bush will provide more protection than a bald head...just like those little cool ass looking old school leather thingies WILL provide more protection than a bald head...

The leather hairnets have a bonus function, too! Where a hardshell helmet will slide, the leather will bind up on the asphalt, breaking your neck for you. How thoughtful!

I find ahts useful all year round. They keep the sun off my eyes when it's sunny, rain off my face when it rains, and some day when you grow up (if you live long enough) you might find they are even more important for protecting bald heads from the sun.


and maybe someday when YOU grow up(or maybe mature in your case) you'll realize that a LOT of people wear hats because they are comfortable, and because they look cool, and NOT only for otherwise practical reasons

The leather hairnets have a bonus function, too! Where a hardshell helmet will slide, the leather will bind up on the asphalt, breaking your neck for you. How thoughtful!

really?...how do you know?...from experience?

You're right...if you like sliding your head on asphalt, then a helmet is great for you. Ideally, you should roll when you fall and not slide your head across the concrete...
and if you're moving at such a speed that some or plenty sliding is inevitable, then a little bit of smooth leather is NOT going to keep you from sliding...

your physics has failed you

Just an interesting bit I picked up a while back about the history of the design of motorcycle helmets. Back in the 50s and 60s before impact testing helmets had been tried, helmets used to have cork padding to protect the head from impacts. When they started doing impact testing on simulated heads, and impact snesors and whatnot, they dsicovered the padding actually had little effect on the impact force, because after it compresses it snaps back with the same force it was compressed at. That's why they started using Expaned Polystyrene for helmet liners in the 70s, because it crushes instead of snapping back. It's a sacrificial component of the helmet. once it's been crushed it stays crushed. It can't absorb impacts any more. That's why after a crash you should replace your helmet. it wn't prtect you from an impact in the same spot again. The other element of a motorcycle helmet is the hard shell. It protects to some extent against sharp objects entering your skull. Obviously the greater the velocity the less likely it is to be able to stop that sharp object. Obviously motorcycle helmets need harder shells than Bicycle helmets because they need to protect racers at speeds above 200mph. The padding component is not protective at all except to the extent that it helps maintain a snug fit. It's mainly there for comfort.

really?...how do you know?...from experience?

You're right...if you like sliding your head on asphalt, then a helmet is great for you. Ideally, you should roll when you fall and not slide your head across the concrete...
and if you're moving at such a speed that some or plenty sliding is inevitable, then a little bit of smooth leather is NOT going to keep you from sliding...

your physics has failed you

I dunno about you, but typically by the time I crash, I don't have too much control over what I'm doing. If you have some sort of magical ability, go ahead and wear whatever stylish headgear you like.

I have one, a white Cinelli, S/M ?, that you can have for FREE...

I'll post a pick when I get home from work, and if you want it you can have it.

I dunno about you, but typically by the time I crash, I don't have too much control over what I'm doing. If you have some sort of magical ability, go ahead and wear whatever stylish headgear you like.

I've played capoeira, breakdanced, and slept on the ground most all of my life...me and ground have a special relationship

when I feel myself about to crash, I usually go through a split second experience that seems very slow-mo (yes..MAGICALLY invoked high speed thought process period that equals about the duration of 5 seconds in normal speed thought) and prepare myself for the fall

really?...how do you know?...from experience?

You're right...if you like sliding your head on asphalt, then a helmet is great for you. Ideally, you should roll when you fall and not slide your head across the concrete...
and if you're moving at such a speed that some or plenty sliding is inevitable, then a little bit of smooth leather is NOT going to keep you from sliding...

your physics has failed you

It's not as if you're sliding along with your head grazing the ground and your body in the air. If you're thrown and your first contact with the ground is your head it'll likely bounce. A Hard shell helmet will allow this to happen without digging in and snapping your neck. Obviously we'd like to control how we land in a collision, but if you think you can manage what happens to your body when you're hit by a car you're kidding yourself. Your smart ass won't be able to save you.

and maybe someday when YOU grow up(or maybe mature in your case) you'll realize that a LOT of people wear hats because they are comfortable, and because they look cool, and NOT only for otherwise practical reasons

I realize people have many reasons for the choices they make. I was simply pointing out that hats have MANY practical purposes, not just one, with a little snarkiness thrown in at no extra charge.

Nothing personal man, but you're kind of asking for it. Shouting "I don't need no stinkin' helmet!" on a message board is just begging for a pile on.

no I'm not going to kid myself into thinking they have the protection that the bulky styrofoam joints have...but no one should kid themselves into thinking that those will protect your head either... I'm not ranking protection level..


http://ckdu.dal.ca/~mcatano/helmet2.jpg

Voila.

I have one, a white Cinelli, S/M ?, that you can have for FREE...

I'll post a pick when I get home from work, and if you want it you can have it.

nice...please do...thanks

me and ground have a special relationship




LOL. I know the feeling. I used to know how to fall too. Skateboarding will teach you that. Tuck and roll. I have been able to gracefully recover some failed trackstanding attempts, etc. But crashes at any kind speed do not allow you to control your fall.

And what if you get clocked in the head by a truck mirror, like Rico? Totally random. Helmet would have helped. Hope he recovers.

Whatever. To each their own.

It's not as if you're sliding along with your head grazing the ground and your body in the air. If you're thrown and your first contact with the ground is your head it'll likely bounce. A Hard shell helmet will allow this to happen without digging in and snapping your neck. Obviously we'd like to control how we land in a collision, but if you think you can manage what happens to your body when you're hit by a car you're kidding yourself. Your smart ass won't be able to save you.

I beg to differ...
first of all...a helmet is not gonna keep you from snapping your neck...don't get it twisted
and...yes...my smart ass will not only keep me from being bit by a car, but...while you are still conscious, you DO have the ability to determine and affect your fate...thats is why some people have survived similar and/or identical accidents in which others have died...my smart ass WILL save me

ie. when you fall on your bike in the middle of the road, if you have the awareness to look up/feel/sense/know where cars are in relation to you..you MIGHT be able to get out of the way and save your life

and again..."don't jinx yasself" says the lord of the crossroads "thinking that a helmet is a be all, save all..smh...your consciousness and awareness is worth 100 times more than any helmet," he continued.

http://ckdu.dal.ca/~mcatano/helmet2.jpg

Voila.

LOL...that is a great picture of a cracked helmet, but..>I'm still trying to interpret the hidden, intended subtext of your posting it

Nothing personal man, but you're kind of asking for it. Shouting "I don't need no stinkin' helmet!" on a message board is just begging for a pile on.

and..for functional literacy class today... ...

I did not say that, nothing near that actually...and quite the contrary really