Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - helmet or not, brakeless or not, make yourself useful...

ok, so the periodic return of handbrake/no handbrake, helmet/no helmet thing reminded me that i've been meaning to post this: http://www.organdonor.gov/links_organprocure_org.html

if you want to donate your organs if you get killed, it's a good idea to be registered in at least one place, AND to have notified your family about what you want to happen to your parts.

(if you don't want to donate, no problem, it's a personal decision, and not everyone is comfortable with the idea.)

however, as the fixie/ss population is generally in better shape than the rest of the population, we make really good donors, so please think about it.

Slightly morbid, but still a great thread!

hey, that's what the holidays are for!

(also, since there are more drunk people driving this time of year, more people end up as roadkill).

My friend back east has a permit that allows him to collect fresh roadkill deer.
Makes for some good eating once the paint and glass is picked out.

My friend back east has a permit that allows him to collect fresh roadkill deer.
Makes for some good eating once the paint and glass is picked out.

hah! my brother has one too!

is it true that the doctors do less to save you if they know your a donator???

I am a doner. Im gonna be cremated so no use in organs burning too.

I just signed Don Walker up! Merry Christsmas Don!

']I just signed Don Walker up! Merry Christsmas Don!

you think he's got any parts anyone will want??

I am sure science will want his liver...

you think he's got any parts anyone will want??

I'll eat his liver!

is it true that the doctors do less to save you if they know your a donator???

I am a doner. Im gonna be cremated so no use in organs burning too.

I read an article in Playboy awhile back talking about how doctors actually do more to surpress brain function in organ doners, making it easier for them to declare 'legally brain dead.' :eek:

It was some pretty scary stuff.

I'm not a doner, because no-one would want my organs. Seriously - would you want a liver that looks like moldy old swiss cheese? Or a smoker's lung? :rolleyes:

I read an article in Playboy awhile back talking about how doctors actually do more to surpress brain function in organ doners, making it easier for them to declare 'legally brain dead.' :eek:

Really? That sounds pretty sensational. It's not like your doctor can just grab your lymph nodes to save himself a trip to dispensary...or route them to a patient and wait for a tip...

I read an article in Playboy awhile back talking about how doctors actually do more to surpress brain function in organ doners, making it easier for them to declare 'legally brain dead.' :eek:

It was some pretty scary stuff.

except for that whole hippocratic (or equivalent) oath thing.. :rolleyes:

how doctors actually do more to surpress brain function in organ doners, making it easier for them to declare 'legally brain dead.' :eek:

It was some pretty scary stuff.



Playboy, huh? Sounds like real sound scientific perspective you're getting...wait, did one of the bunnies write it? And then pose for the accompanying photo? :rolleyes: "Brain dead" sounds pretty apt in that case...
I knew you were lying when you started with:
I read an article in Playboy

i would.... but i'm a smoker. and my main source of income is medical studies.


i'll be lucky to make it for three more studies before they say

"mr. king.... we'll give you $8,000 to replace all of your vital organs with cyborg lab-rats.... for one month. sound good?"

"$8,000? helloooo aruba!"

Playboy, huh? Sounds like real sound scientific perspective you're getting...wait, did one of the bunnies write it? And then pose for the accompanying photo? :rolleyes: "Brain dead" sounds pretty apt in that case...
I knew you were lying when you started with:

Actually, my sister in law read it first, and told me to read it...

Actually, my sister in law read it first, and told me to read it...

Playboy is generally regarded as having fairly professional and reputable writing.
Seriously.
Oh, and boobs.

actually, i heard that too. I was just trying to work in the "brain dead" thing (back to the old joke drawing board, i guess...). But wouldn't that be the most brilliant way to spice up the articles in the Journal of the American Medical Association, for example? I think the AMA and Playboy should do a joint issue. haha.

I know what I'm getting dolface for giftmas:

http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~triangle/Images/2nd+option.jpg

... great book, btw.

I know what I'm getting dolface for giftmas:

http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~triangle/Images/2nd+option.jpg

... great book, btw.

awesome! that book is already on my amazon wishlist.

I'll eat his liver!

http://www.pappabuona.com/data/image/CHIANTI%20CLASSICO%20scheda.jpg

they won't take my parts...

If you're not allowed to give blood, can you donate organs? Anyone know?

If you're not allowed to give blood, can you donate organs? Anyone know?
Depends on the parts I would think and why you aren't allowed to donate blood

Depends on the parts I would think and why you aren't allowed to donate blood

I'm technically not allowed to give blood because I've had sex with another man. Go figure.

if you want to donate your organs if you get killed, it's a good idea to be registered in at least one place, AND to have notified your family about what you want to happen to your parts.

just 0.02 here, but definitely tell your family, no matter how progressive or whatever you might think they are. I have doctors and med techs in the family, and my mom was like "absolutely no way is anyone parting out my son."

Dunno about the US, but in Canada (most or all provinces I think, and definitely QC) the family trumps your own registration/will/living will etc.

And then if you don't donate, you might get parted out for private sale to universities and labs anyway, at least according to Harpers from a couple of years ago. By the cadaver equivalent of can/scrap metal collectors. Who ship you fedex to the Mayo Clinic.

If you're not allowed to give blood, can you donate organs? Anyone know?

i'm not allowed to give blood or donate organs because i had an unidentified form of hepatitis... nothing shows up when i get tested now, but since they couldn't figure out what form it was they told me i couldn't donate...

I'm technically not allowed to give blood because I've had sex with another man. Go figure.

is that a permanent thing, or is it that you can't donate for a period of time like with tattoos and piercings?

I'm technically not allowed to give blood because I've had sex with another man. Go figure.
I tihnk you would be covered and I just had a navy corpsman agree with me. They test those organs and everything like that before your organs go out. Donate those organs away!

is it stupid of me to be really paranoid of me being left for dead in the middle of the street when my life could've possibly been saved so that my organs can be taken? :\

well i have kidney disease. i signed up but should i tell them if i have a genetic tissue disease.

back on topic....

did you see that argentina just passed a law that all citizens are now donors? so in order to not be a donor you have to opt out of the program.

so it is basically the exact opposite of the US. here you need to opt in.

I kind of like having it that way. But, we will never see a change here because people want to go to heaven with all of their parts intact...

good post though!

is that a permanent thing, or is it that you can't donate for a period of time like with tattoos and piercings?

Permanent Deferral

* HIV infection with or without symptoms of AIDS or Hepatitis. Men who have had sex with another man (even once) since 1977.
* Any lymphoma, leukemia, melanoma.
* Medication: Tegison, heart-regulating medications, anti-coagulants (i.e. Coumadin), long-term steroid therapy, Bovine (beef) insulin.
* Travel to or residing in the UK for 3 months or more between 1980 - 1996.
* Travel to or residing in Europe for 5 years or more between 1980 and the present.
* Autoimmune Disorders (such as): Crohn's disease, Grave's disease, Lupus, MS, Pernicious anemia, Rheumatoid arthritis, Sarcoidosis, Sjogren's syndrome, Ulcerative colitis, Scleroderma, Hashimoto thyroditis.


Thats some crap isn't it?

Permanent Deferral

* HIV infection with or without symptoms of AIDS or Hepatitis. Men who have had sex with another man (even once) since 1977.
* Any lymphoma, leukemia, melanoma.
* Medication: Tegison, heart-regulating medications, anti-coagulants (i.e. Coumadin), long-term steroid therapy, Bovine (beef) insulin.
* Travel to or residing in the UK for 3 months or more between 1980 - 1996.
* Travel to or residing in Europe for 5 years or more between 1980 and the present.
* Autoimmune Disorders (such as): Crohn's disease, Grave's disease, Lupus, MS, Pernicious anemia, Rheumatoid arthritis, Sarcoidosis, Sjogren's syndrome, Ulcerative colitis, Scleroderma, Hashimoto thyroditis.


Thats some crap isn't it?

I think you're just saying you had sex with a man so you don't have to admit you spent more than three months in the UK.

I was also just informed that if you are a organ donor, your organs might not end up saving someone's life. Once you die, unless you specify what organization you want it to go to, your organs get farmed out to all sorts of group. So instead of giving the gift of a new skin graft for a burn victim, you might be donating skin for some other plastic surgery. Also make sure you clarify with your family, and put it in your will that you are donating your organs. There are many respectable orgainizations that will take your organs to be used for lifesaving purposes as opposed to research or cosmetic surgery, all you have to do is sign up with those organization.

i remember getting in an argument with a cashier once because i'm an organ donor... it took me calling her a selfish ***** to get her to shut up. you're dead! let someone else live!

i remember getting in an argument with a cashier once because i'm an organ donor... it took me calling her a selfish ***** to get her to shut up. you're dead! let someone else live!

Wow, welcome to my work conversation last night...only there was 10 of us calling one person selfish.

What the hell are the UK and Europe restrictions for??? BSE?

Mad cow desease. Seriously. (If you look at the dates, the UK period lines up with the major outbreak of mad cow.)

[Yes, this is just to clarify for those of us who didn't do BSE==Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy==Mad cow disease in our heads.]

Permanent Deferral


* Travel to or residing in Europe for 5 years or more between 1980 and the present.

Thats some crap isn't it?

Whoops! I was born in Germany in 1980 and didn't leave till 87. I've donated blood plenty (in the marine corps they never asked that question) and im an organ donor.

bump

I'm sorry I can't just let the insaneness in this thread go on without chiming in.

As many of you know I am on my way to joining the ranks of western medical physicians. Keeping bias to a minimum here I have to say that from my experience I have never never heard of or been around physicians who do not do all that is within their means to treat every human as equal. This includes not denying any person medical attention and certainly not withholding treatment because someone is an organ donor.

I myself am a donor but I have to tell you that no matter what you sign, whether or not you have a living will, actually any legal document will not stop the ability of your closest relations from halting a donation at the last minute.

And your organs are certainly not farmed out for research. But it may be the case that as many of your organs as possible are used. And despite the belief that plastic surgery is all about the uber rich transforming themselves into something they're not, a lot of plastics is involved with reconstruction after a physical trauma.

From my training and experience at a hospital that does many transplant surgeries, I have come to have nothing but the highest respect for these physicians and the people who so generously give part of themselves to another human to continue the beautiful thing that is life.

I'm sorry I can't just let the insaneness in this thread go on without chiming in.

As many of you know I am on my way to joining the ranks of western medical physicians. Keeping bias to a minimum here I have to say that from my experience I have never never heard of or been around physicians who do not do all that is within their means to treat every human as equal. This includes not denying any person medical attention and certainly not withholding treatment because someone is an organ donor.

I myself am a donor but I have to tell you that no matter what you sign, whether or not you have a living will, actually any legal document will not stop the ability of your closest relations from halting a donation at the last minute.

And your organs are certainly not farmed out for research. But it may be the case that as many of your organs as possible are used. And despite the belief that plastic surgery is all about the uber rich transforming themselves into something they're not, a lot of plastics is involved with reconstruction after a physical trauma.

From my training and experience at a hospital that does many transplant surgeries, I have come to have nothing but the highest respect for these physicians and the people who so generously give part of themselves to another human to continue the beautiful thing that is life.


hear hear!

and also ...

as to the blood donation restrictions ... I'm all for as many restrictions as possible. And yes I know we're always on the cusp of being on a blood shortage but I for one would rather be safe than sorry. And those that were listed are pretty obvious, blood borne cancers, anticoagulant medications, autoimmune diseases. I have to admit I'm not sure why restrictions on certain numbers of years are in place and differ for certain parts of the world besides the potential food borne and environmental illnesses you can get that take X numbers of years to clear.

I'm also all about self donation, if you know you're having a surgery give some of your own blood prior that way you know what you're getting. But trauma is another thing. I guess just don't bleed and then you won't need a transfusion.

edit:
and the men not having sex with men since 1977 does, i agree, seem wrong. damn political bullsht. but the HIV and hepatitis is a definite no brainer.

and also ...

as to the blood donation restrictions ... I'm all for as many restrictions as possible. And yes I know we're always on the cusp of being on a blood shortage but I for one would rather be safe than sorry. And those that were listed are pretty obvious, blood borne cancers, anticoagulant medications, autoimmune diseases. I have to admit I'm not sure why restrictions on certain numbers of years are in place and differ for certain parts of the world besides the potential food borne and environmental illnesses you can get that take X numbers of years to clear.

I'm also all about self donation, if you know you're having a surgery give some of your own blood prior that way you know what you're getting. But trauma is another thing. I guess just don't bleed and then you won't need a transfusion.

edit:
and the men not having sex with men since 1977 does, i agree, seem wrong. damn political bullsht. but the HIV and hepatitis is a definite no brainer.


And you know HIV is scary, but nowadays a heterosexual male is just as likely to have HIV as a homosexual and it's not fair to single out an entire group of people based on nothing more than stereotypes and utter bull****.

I'm sorry it's kinda hard for me to go and offer my blood when I have to lie about an intrinsic part of myself and in effect deny myself, its utter bull****. If you don't want my gay blood, fine, I'll keep it for myself.

I'm sorry I can't just let the insaneness in this thread go on without chiming in.

As many of you know I am on my way to joining the ranks of western medical physicians. Keeping bias to a minimum here I have to say that from my experience I have never never heard of or been around physicians who do not do all that is within their means to treat every human as equal. This includes not denying any person medical attention and certainly not withholding treatment because someone is an organ donor.

I myself am a donor but I have to tell you that no matter what you sign, whether or not you have a living will, actually any legal document will not stop the ability of your closest relations from halting a donation at the last minute.

And your organs are certainly not farmed out for research. But it may be the case that as many of your organs as possible are used. And despite the belief that plastic surgery is all about the uber rich transforming themselves into something they're not, a lot of plastics is involved with reconstruction after a physical trauma.

From my training and experience at a hospital that does many transplant surgeries, I have come to have nothing but the highest respect for these physicians and the people who so generously give part of themselves to another human to continue the beautiful thing that is life.

thanks...it's nice to hear someone weigh in on this from the point of...well, not being a doctor per se, but you know what i mean.

And you know HIV is scary, but nowadays a heterosexual male is just as likely to have HIV as a homosexual and it's not fair to single out an entire group of people based on nothing more than stereotypes and utter bull****.

I'm sorry it's kinda hard for me to go and offer my blood when I have to lie about an intrinsic part of myself and in effect deny myself, its utter bull****. If you don't want my gay blood, fine, I'll keep it for myself.

I definitely agree with you. I certainly hope that you didn't quote me thinking I was in favor of the ban on accepting blood from "Men who have had sex with another man (even once) since 1977", implying homosexual men. And my statement about HIV and hepatitis just refers to the fact that they are definitely blood borne pathogens.

I definitely agree with you. I certainly hope that you didn't quote me thinking I was in favor of the ban on accepting blood from "Men who have had sex with another man (even once) since 1977", implying homosexual men. And my statement about HIV and hepatitis just refers to the fact that they are definitely blood borne pathogens.

Naw, I quoted you for context. :)

it pisses me off MASSIVELY that this stupid rule is still in effect (and jo, you're right, it's purely political imo).

every time i see pleas for people to give blood i get all irate because i'm disqualified for a bunch of dumb reasons too, and it really angers me that the cdc/nih hasn't updated their rules.

'intelligent design' my butt!