Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Level Hubs on the track?

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bonelesschicken
12-23-05, 02:38 PM
I will be building a bike for track use, but it will also end up getting ridden on the street. The Level hubs seem ideal because their design facilitates cog changes, something I will probably be doing frequently. Anybody see any problems using these hubs on the track?
pitboss
12-23-05, 02:41 PM
nope - should be good to go. If they can survive on the street, the track won't be a problem
the only thing that might concern you on the track is their weight. frankly, i don't think it's enough to matter, but levels are ****ing tanks.. they are durable as **** tanks, but tanks no less. i would go for them.
bonelesschicken
12-23-05, 03:00 PM
Yeah thats what I thought. I can't decide if I should build some nice clincher rims with Level hubs and ride them everywhere or get two wheel sets. A IRO wheelset for the street and some tubulars for the track.
red house
12-23-05, 03:00 PM
I'm wondering when LeVeL components will make a leaner version of their hub. Anybody know if it's in the works?
baxtefer
12-23-05, 03:05 PM
45mm chainline
/just sayin'
Devolution
12-23-05, 03:09 PM
the only thing that might concern you on the track is their weight. frankly, i don't think it's enough to matter, but levels are ****ing tanks.. they are durable as **** tanks, but tanks no less. i would go for them.
For durable as tanks, there sure do seem to be some axles breaking around here.
Just sayin'.
-brad
i do recall reading something about the axle issue -- didn't they address that by going with different axles now?
BostonFixed
12-23-05, 03:14 PM
If I were racing on the track, I'd go with something lighter, and probably loose ball.
Then again, I don't race on the track.
EDIT: I wouldn't necessarily ride the above on the street.
bonelesschicken
12-23-05, 03:28 PM
Why loose ball?
baxtefer
12-23-05, 03:28 PM
drag. less of it.
BostonFixed
12-23-05, 03:29 PM
drag. less of it.
= faster.
bonelesschicken
12-23-05, 03:40 PM
How about the Miche splined cog system? Anybody have any experience running that on a quality track hub? Do any other manufacturers have such a system? I am really into the idea of quickly changing cogs with minimal tools.
i mean, shimano makes a chainwhip/hookspanner combo tool that is 35$. that and a fixed/fixed hub and you're golden. if you are intelligent about things, you should never have a problem with stripping threads.
vomitron
12-23-05, 09:29 PM
Hub weight isn't really a big deal on flat terrain (read: the track). Rotational matters (rims/tires), as does drag.
That being said, you probably don't want/need level hubs on the track. What happens if you need a cog at a race? Are you going to carry doubles of each cog?
If you want lots of gearing options, just get a fixed/fixed, 14+15 tooth cogs, plus a bunch of chainrings (48, 50, 52) and you'll have a very wide gear range. Plus, chainrings come off and go on with less work than cogs, imho.
The weight of a hub is the last thing to be worried about on the track. . .or many other places. Once you get towards the rim and tire, then you need to do some wise choices.
trackasaurus
12-23-05, 10:53 PM
not to be mr practical or anything, but most trackies i know who don't race pursuit finals (most)- don't use a lockring at all.
they might as well be running a converted 80's road hub for all that matters.
because you're changing cogs a fair bit for different events, you just chainwhip one off, and spin the next one on. dealing with a bunch of allen bolts seems like a bit of a pain.
not to diss on level. i think they make a great product and hella support the messer scene.
however if you're planning to race a bit of track, the availability of cog sizes might play in, unless you've got deep pockets.
my 50 cents
ZappCatt
12-24-05, 12:09 AM
Why would pursuit finalists be more inclined to use a lockring?
Just wondering...
I thought the match sprinters who change speed(all the way down to a trackstand) in the middle of the event would have the most need for a lockring.
Lunigma
12-24-05, 03:36 AM
yeah a lot don't use lockrings, they use the rotafixa method
trackasaurus
12-24-05, 06:42 AM
whoops you're right match, not pursuit.
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