Road Bike Racing - 45+ Masters or Cat 5? Which class should I enter?

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mooncake
12-24-05, 07:11 PM
I am a recently turned 45 and I've been riding about 150 miles a week and I ride all-out most of the time. I keep up with anybody I ride with and my climbing is pretty good now having lost 15 lbs (6'2" 195 currently).
I would like to try a 3 day stage race out in Nevada where I will be visiting relatives in January. Having never before raced, would I be better off entering a Cat 5 race or a 45+ race? :( :)
Duke of Kent
12-24-05, 07:25 PM
Cat 5. The 45+ guys will all be experienced racers, and will ride you into the ground. Sorry, but them's the facts.
I ride with some guys from time to time who race 45+, and they hang with the guys on our team pretty well when the pace jumps up. Cycling is one of the few sports where age is a relatively small factor as long as your joints (knees and hips) are healthy. The engine developed over the 20 to 30 years these guys have been doing it is incredible.
Masters racing is wicked fast. As the Duke has said, do the Cat5.
EventServices
12-24-05, 08:51 PM
Please race with the Cat 5s for a half a season. Get used to being in a bike race.
Even though the 45+ field sounds like it might be slower, it's really not.
Trust me: you'll live longer.
Stick with the Cat 5. Take it from someone who's found out the hard way. :)
Agreed +1
Stay Cat5 for at least half the season and see how you do...
Warblade
12-24-05, 11:31 PM
Upgrade to Cat four (10 Cat 5 Races) before you do a Masters Race. Masters are friggin fast, like a bat out of hell. Master A,B's are basically ex-pros still wanting to race.
travis200
12-24-05, 11:41 PM
Another vote for the 5's to gain the experience then after you do 10 races and move up to 4's then I would say try the 45+.
mooncake
12-25-05, 01:54 AM
Cat 5 it is. I figured that the silver foxes would be *****in' fast after doing it forever.
Kind of makes you wonder why so many pros hang it up at 32-33. It's nice to know that your engine doesn't deteriorate with age, just your joints.
I've never been injury prone and maybe it's better that I took up cycling in my middle-age - I don't have 20 years of wear and tear to worry about and besides when I was in my 20s, I didn't need to work out to stay thin!
roadwarrior
12-25-05, 04:46 AM
Kind of makes you wonder why so many pros hang it up at 32-33. It's nice to know that your engine doesn't deteriorate with age, just your joints.
Pros, with I's and II's race a ton of miles. It takes a ton of time to train to race like that. I am not talking about the "45 minutes plus two laps" stuff. Local guys will race those...and there is a difference between being a "local II or I" and a national racer.
I was a II and reached a point where I had to make a decision to move up economically/career-wise or ride my bike...career won. But I still fool around with the bike business when I can for fun.
I know a couple of masters racers who own their own businesses (kinda like the guys who officiate top collegiate or even NFL games...they devote a ton of time to that but are somehow, life-wise set up to allow that to occur..an acquaintence of mine is a Big Ten basketball official and is gone all the time during hoops season, owns an insurance agncey) and have people that can back them up who know that they do this. So they can train and travel and still have an income that supports their lifestyle. A "regular employer" is not going to typically support the off-time it takes to prepare for and travel to races.
Ever seen the movie "The Hard Road"? Ten grand to race to be a "pro"...if you have raced at a pretty high level, it's not a lot of fun to go back to the local crit stuff.
karesz3
12-25-05, 06:27 PM
You may want to try a Cat 5 race just to get a taste, but I would highly recommend staying away from Cat 5 races as much as possible. It is way more dangerous than any other cats. You will get a great run for your money in the masters division, and those guys are generally value their safety more than medals or prizes. It sounds like you're in a decent shape, and if you have good bike handling skills than go for the 45+.
Cheers
If you've never raced before, start with the cat 5's and try to stay in the top 10 or higher places. I have no idea the level of comparison group your using but, if you're that good it will be evident pretty quickly. If you try to race Masters and can't hold a damn good line or even pace, you will not only be dropped in the first 500 meters but, asked not to race at that cat until you can ride. No disrespect intended but, like has been stated, these guys are wicked fast and thoroughly seasoned. You get a squirmy green thumb in there and it won't be pleasant. Get your skills good and solid in the 5's. You learn to ride really well really fast to avoid the goofballs who are doing it for a kick and don't care how they hold a line. You may decide to step-up to the 4's for a while too. Don't think you can cut your teeth in the Masters and survive.
If you still want to try Masters first, at least go to a shop and find a club with Masters riders and ask to do a training ride with them. Tell them what you're thinking and your plans. Ask them if they can give you some advice on your level after the ride. They may work you over but, you'll get an idea really quickly if this is the level for you.
Don't mean to be rude or hard on you but, doing the wrong thing here can get you or somebody else hurt in a crash that could have been avoided. My main point is if you're going to try Masters, know you are that good before you try to race at that level.
Bobby Lex
12-26-05, 04:57 AM
Racing is a humbling experience. First-timers rarely podium, so pick your poison. Either category will probably kick your a$$. Masters racers are smarter riders ("Age and treachery will defeat youth and inexperience"), but they are more skilled, and generally value their skin more than winning. Cat 5 racers generally lack pack riding skills and crash a lot more.
Either way, there's a big learning curve and you just have to jump in and race to learn how.
Bob
Cat 5's should not be racing 45's! That's why we started cat5 in 1992. To give beginners a chance to learn bike racing before moving up to 4 and masters cats. Newbies are not welcome in the masters until they have at least experienced a few cat5 races. It's not a knock personally, it has to do with safety. If a cat5 shows good skills and decent strength after just a couple races, then great, come on in, but at least do us a favor and learn the basics first.
patentcad
12-26-05, 06:34 AM
>>First-timers rarely podium, so pick your poison.<<
Yeah, I'll say. I'm 48. When I started racing in 1990 or so, I couldn't FINISH a race, let alone be competitive. Eventually I figured out how to train and race, and did most of my racing as a 35+ vets competitor. In nearly a decade of racing I hit the top 5 maybe 5 times. It's a VERY tough sport. But as a guy with zero bike racing talent who only ever got results through hard training and smart racing, I still loved it. Loved being a team mate, loved the camraderie, loved the focus it gave me for my training.
Hoping to race in 2006, even @ 48. But I'm not too concerned about results. Why would I be? I realize that much of the racing world is faster than me. But I DO enjoy riding my bike fast with other fast guys. LOTS of fun.
Yep, start out in the Cat 5's. There will be plenty of time to get your head handed to you by Vets racers later in your career after you learn about the sport. Welcome and remember: this is for FUN. I think some of us forget that part...
mooncake
12-26-05, 09:49 AM
Interesting.
How would a retired Lance fair against hungry young CAT 1 racers in a crit if he was to get off the couch and give it a go today?
Duke of Kent
12-26-05, 10:37 AM
Three scenarios would play out:
1) he would get in a break, and keep it, but finish 2nd or 3rd.
or
2) he would go solo, and get caught, and maybe finish top 10.
or
3) he would try his luck in the pack sprint, and maybe finish top 10
Crits are a completely different world from road racing and TTing. He has the engine, but does he have the acceleration, over and over and over again? Also, Lance does not have the greatest sprint ability. He'd beat plenty of 1's, but not all of them.
bvfrompc
12-26-05, 12:35 PM
Interesting.
How would a retired Lance fair against hungry young CAT 1 racers in a crit if he was to get off the couch and give it a go today?
I'll play:
Uphill Finish, no contest, wins by a mile
Flat Finish, top three,
Downhill Finish, pack
geneman
12-26-05, 01:32 PM
It's almost rediculous to speculate on what Lance could do in a crit these days, but I'm dumb enough to play. :rolleyes:
I'm no Lance fan, but I wouldn't count him out of any race he wants to win. Case in point ... stage 3, 2004 TdG (photo credit to Bob Badalucco)
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2004/apr04/georgia04/stage3/lance_winner.jpg
Mark
galen_52657
12-26-05, 01:42 PM
Back to the original question.....
CAT 5!!!!!!
It's where all beginners belong regardless of age. The 45+ racers will not only school you, they will hate your friggin guts if you cause a crash. Everybody hates to crash but old, seasoned vets who have already taken their share are loath to ride with inexperienced riders. And if you did cause a crash, next time they see you in a field, they will warn all their buddies and team mates that you are a crash waiting to happen and everybody will want to stay far away from you.
So.... CAT 5 for you my friend....
2Rodies
12-26-05, 02:08 PM
What Galen said. Do your 10 C5 races, get some experience under your belt then go mix it up with the old guys. I plan on racing 45+ next season but I hope to have enough points to get to C3 by then.
socalrider
12-26-05, 02:31 PM
I'm going to start racing again this year and do the 40+ category.. Before I stopped racing I was a Cat 2 and I know that I am going to get spanked for the better part of this season.. The racing skills are still there but the fitness is coming back slowly..
Good Luck..
The Octopus
12-26-05, 03:20 PM
If you're a super-strong rider with good bike handling skills and common sense, you'll do very well in the 5s, even if much of the field is half your age. As many others have said, you'll likely get owned by the Master's crowd as a new racer. Those guys are insanely fast.
At the Ohio State RR Championships this year -- my 4th race ever! -- I was in a break off the front of the 5s and we caught two guys who had been dropped by the Master's field (it was a very hilly course). Their field had a 1-minute head start on us. Our break stayed away, but we barely kept ahead of these two guys who seemed like they were just out for a Sunday ride, taking it easy knowing that their race was effectively over.... Never saw any of the rest of the Master's field over the 30-mile course.
oneradtec
12-26-05, 05:58 PM
Master's racers totally rock!
We had a Master's race down here in NC not too long ago and Kent Bostick showed up and won the race. Kent Bostick is a former Olympian and also a former Master's U.S. National and World's Champion...as in rainbow jersey. Kent is now in his 50's...and incredibly fast. I'm sure he still rides a sub 1 hour 40k TT with only one leg clipped in.
EventServices
12-26-05, 07:07 PM
That's Bostasaurus to those who know him.
He used to have a USCF license number in the 3-digits before USA Cycling reassigned numbers.
mooncake
12-26-05, 07:52 PM
I'm pumped. Glad to see that old guys can go fast. Looking forward to the 2nd half of my 40's.
I averaged 20.3 mph with stop lights in between on the 32 mile ride to my Dad's on Xmas day, ( 21 lb. steel bike with T2 aero bars).
Is that decent Cat 5 TT material?
Is that decent Cat 5 TT material?Everyone's CAT 5 material at some point. A race isn't a time trial nor are aero bars allowed. Speed, by itself, gets you nowhere. Can you make multiple rapid accelerations? Can you go deep in the hole when the pace picks up and recover? Are you smart enough to know when to cover a break and when to let it go? Can you conserve your energy 'til the right moment?
You'll just never know until you go out and give it a try.
mooncake
12-26-05, 08:18 PM
Everyone's CAT 5 material at some point. A race isn't a time trial nor are aero bars allowed. Speed, by itself, gets you nowhere. Can you make multiple rapid accelerations? Can you go deep in the hole when the pace picks up and recover? Are you smart enough to know when to cover a break and when to let it go? Can you conserve your energy 'til the right moment?
You'll just never know until you go out and give it a try.
Is averaging 20 mph on a flat route for 32 miles decent base speed for a 45 year old novice? :( :o
mooncake
12-26-05, 08:24 PM
Everyone's CAT 5 material at some point. A race isn't a time trial nor are aero bars allowed. Speed, by itself, gets you nowhere. Can you make multiple rapid accelerations? Can you go deep in the hole when the pace picks up and recover? Are you smart enough to know when to cover a break and when to let it go? Can you conserve your energy 'til the right moment?
You'll just never know until you go out and give it a try.
Don't know, don't know, don't know, probably. I haven't busted my cherry on a race yet!
I do catch up to groups of serious riders on their pacelines on weekends and hang with them for as long as I like then I drop back because I don't know what the etiquette is.
I figure an interloper sucking somebody's wheel uninvited is a no-no? :eek:
Smoothie104
12-26-05, 09:38 PM
Mooncake, if you've never raced, do a 5, thats what they are there for.
patentcad
12-26-05, 10:00 PM
A classic newbie racer obsession is 'what avg. speed makes me a racer'. Forget about that. Racing's not about avg. speed, and you're not riding alone. You're in a pack for the most part. A pack that will flick boogers @ 21mph and accelerate to 30mph+ and to that a few times in a 30-50 mile race. If you can average 21mph on your own but you don't have the speed to match a 32mph pack speed burst - ypu'll get dropped. INTERVAL training. SPEED WORK. Learn about it, and start DOING it.
That's how I went from getting dropped every race to being an effective team mate and even placing. I'm not fast. I have no sprint. I generally suck in the talent area. But you can learn how to race, ride smart and get on the right wheel at the right time. And that's one of the beautiful things about bike racing (you see it in the pros all the time). If you're persistent and you keep trying, every dog has his day. Even mopes like me : ).
mooncake
12-26-05, 11:28 PM
A classic newbie racer obsession is 'what avg. speed makes me a racer'. Forget about that. Racing's not about avg. speed, and you're not riding alone. You're in a pack for the most part. A pack that will flick boogers @ 21mph and accelerate to 30mph+ and to that a few times in a 30-50 mile race. If you can average 21mph on your own but you don't have the speed to match a 32mph pack speed burst - ypu'll get dropped. INTERVAL training. SPEED WORK. Learn about it, and start DOING it.
That's how I went from getting dropped every race to being an effective team mate and even placing. I'm not fast. I have no sprint. I generally suck in the talent area. But you can learn how to race, ride smart and get on the right wheel at the right time. And that's one of the beautiful things about bike racing (you see it in the pros all the time). If you're persistent and you keep trying, every dog has his day. Even mopes like me : ).
speed to match a 32mph pack speed burst
Geezus. They attack that fast in CAT 5 races? :eek:
mooncake
12-26-05, 11:29 PM
A classic newbie racer obsession is 'what avg. speed makes me a racer'. Forget about that. Racing's not about avg. speed, and you're not riding alone. You're in a pack for the most part. A pack that will flick boogers @ 21mph and accelerate to 30mph+ and to that a few times in a 30-50 mile race. If you can average 21mph on your own but you don't have the speed to match a 32mph pack speed burst - ypu'll get dropped. INTERVAL training. SPEED WORK. Learn about it, and start DOING it.
That's how I went from getting dropped every race to being an effective team mate and even placing. I'm not fast. I have no sprint. I generally suck in the talent area. But you can learn how to race, ride smart and get on the right wheel at the right time. And that's one of the beautiful things about bike racing (you see it in the pros all the time). If you're persistent and you keep trying, every dog has his day. Even mopes like me : ).
A classic newbie racer
Hey, I resemble that remark! :o
TheKillerPenguin
12-26-05, 11:37 PM
Geezus. They attack that fast in CAT 5 races? :eek:
Yeah, it gets that fast even in cat 5.
Have fun!
SteveAZ
12-27-05, 06:32 AM
Geezus. They attack that fast in CAT 5 races? :eek:
Here's a little perspective from a newbie stand point.
I have yet to race (first race is in a month) so I'll obviously be Cat 5. I ride pretty regularly with others that do race. In one group I ride with there are 2 people that will be Cat 5, both of which are VERY strong and will drop me at any time. :rolleyes: Actually in that group I am one of the weakest :o and I can sprint up to about 35 and hold 25mph for a few miles (pulling). The thing is, everyone starts at Cat 5, and so you'll get guys that are really Cat 4 or Cat 3 level but just haven't proven themselves yet. A lot of times they come from mtn. bike racing.
Just go out, have fun, and learn the ropes. :)
merlinextraligh
12-27-05, 07:15 AM
You do face a dillemma starting out at 45+. Ideally, there should be a Cat 5 35, or 45 plus race. Otherwise you either race against kids half your age, or you race against very experienced guys your age, that are often former Cat II's.
I'm 46, and have raced off and on for a number of years, but hadn't raced for a few years, and decided I wanted to get in shape and race this last year. Faced with your dillema, I did some Cat5 and some 45+. I had some decent results in Cat 5, ( 4th in a stage race,for what a Cat 5 result is worth). In the Masters I was basically just able to hang in the pack, and only managed to place in one race.
The Masters are definitely stronger, more experienced and team tactics come into play. The Master's races, particularly Criterimus are safer than Cat 5. Thus I definitely prefer to do Masters. even though my chance of winning or placing is way down.
Even though you technically can do Master's races, I think you owe it to the group to do a few Cat 5's, pay your dues , and learn a little about racing before you do the Master's races.
kleinpro
12-27-05, 09:57 AM
I'm not sure but I think you need to be a cat 4 to race masters anyway.
Cat 5 racing sucks and is dangerous, there is always a crash, mostly because it's a bunch of guys with great lngs and legs but little bike handling skills.
You will need to do the C5 until you upgrade. Stay near the front ,take the turns wide and keep the rubber side down.
After 10 mass starts you can upgrade and try the masters stuff. If you can hang in a local fast group ride, you should be able to hang in a 45+ ride
merlinextraligh
12-27-05, 12:32 PM
I'm not sure but I think you need to be a cat 4 to race masters anyway.
Cat 5 racing sucks and is dangerous, there is always a crash, mostly because it's a bunch of guys with great lngs and legs but little bike handling skills.
You will need to do the C5 until you upgrade. Stay near the front ,take the turns wide and keep the rubber side down.
After 10 mass starts you can upgrade and try the masters stuff. If you can hang in a local fast group ride, you should be able to hang in a 45+ ride
in my experience you don't. When I got a license after a 5 year hiatus, I just filled out a new application, and therefore got a Cat 5 license, and I haven't bothered to upgrade it. I did a number of Masters 45 races this year with no issue.
Here in NorCal, some Masters 45+ races exclude 5's. Most don't.
SteveAZ
12-27-05, 01:31 PM
In the crit we have next month, there's also a "Masters 40+ 4/5" that might be a really good option if such a class is available in the races you're looking at.
divekrb
12-27-05, 08:10 PM
I whomped on the Cat5. In the Masters 45+ (1/5) best I've done is a 2nd. In a recent race we caught and passed the main 35+ 1/5 field. Freaks I tell ya.
If you want to have a shot at the front, go cat 5. If you want to know what death feels like, go Masters 45+.
And ideally find a 45+ cat five race like the Sea Otter (AKA Sea Slaughter).
Is averaging 20 mph on a flat route for 32 miles decent base speed for a 45 year old novice? :( :o
25 MPH for 25 miles got me 8th in our Districts (not my best day) 35+4/5, would have gotten me 3rd in the Elite 4/5, and 12th in the Masters 45+ 1/5.
Race the 5's, sit on, and work on that sprint.
mooncake
12-28-05, 11:59 AM
I whomped on the Cat5. In the Masters 45+ (1/5) best I've done is a 2nd. In a recent race we caught and passed the main 35+ 1/5 field. Freaks I tell ya.
If you want to have a shot at the front, go cat 5. If you want to know what death feels like, go Masters 45+.
And ideally find a 45+ cat five race like the Sea Otter (AKA Sea Slaughter).
25 MPH for 25 miles got me 8th in our Districts (not my best day) 35+4/5, would have gotten me 3rd in the Elite 4/5, and 12th in the Masters 45+ 1/5.
Race the 5's, sit on, and work on that sprint.
Dang, that's moving. How fast do the pros like Cipo average in his one-day hammerfests? :eek:
Oldcastle
12-28-05, 01:01 PM
This sounds great, didn't have a clue on the pace and sprinting issues. Lots too learn an I'm older than you mooncakes!! Just have to prepare!!
Cat 5 is me for sure for starters. If I get farther than Cat 5 that'll be even better.
Time to get back on the wheels!!:)
OC
SteveAZ
12-28-05, 01:45 PM
25 MPH for 25 miles got me 8th in our Districts (not my best day) 35+4/5, would have gotten me 3rd in the Elite 4/5, and 12th in the Masters 45+ 1/5.
Race the 5's, sit on, and work on that sprint.
What kind of race was that?
What kind of race was that?Must've been a TT as it'd be the only race that's timed and the only one where you could compare your placement with another group.
madcyclist
12-28-05, 02:10 PM
Don't know if someone said this earlier, but, at the risk of repetition.
Some promoters will not let CAT 5s register for a Master's race. For all of the reasons given above, do the CAT 5.
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divekrb
12-28-05, 02:32 PM
Must've been a TT as it'd be the only race that's timed and the only one where you could compare your placement with another group.
Ayup, a flat out and back TT. Good benchmark for your speed against others in your class. In the Masters 45+ 1/2/3 or 45+ 1/5 you can expect to see that kind of pace once the field gets moving, and faster if they're chasing or attacking (at least in my area and in the Southwest).
I found the cat 4/5 races to be slower, but with more unsustained attacks and much more erratic. The 45+ guys really know what they are doing for the most part. When the strong guys go you need to be right on top or you're toast.
FatguyRacer
12-28-05, 02:42 PM
Is averaging 20 mph on a flat route for 32 miles decent base speed for a 45 year old novice? :( :o
Im gonna answer this question with a personal ancedote.
Yes it is. But with reservations. This year i spent from May to September riding my bike to lose 50 lbs with the goal of competeing again after a 4 year absense. When i stopped racing after the 2000 season, i was a pretty fast Cat 4 and was set to upgrade the following season if not for a serious family crisis that forced me off. All I did over the summer 2005 was ride long steady distance, watched my diet and commuted to work. I did about 600-650 miles a month. By mid september, I mangaged to get down to 208 lbs from around 255 lbs. I lost all that weight and got faster and faster without doing any structured interval training, save for hammering hills and riding flat out for long stretches at a time on my commutes to work. Every year even when i wasnt racing i would help out with the last race promotion of the year cause the promotor is a friend i've know since i was a Junior 16-18 rider. Im 42 now. This year was no different, but i brought my bike just in case i felt the urge to see if i could hang in the Cat 4 race. Long story short, it was not a problem. It was a 20+ mile circuit race with a downhill sprint finish and I finished with the pack only because i was too far back in the pack on the last lap to make a difference, so i didnt bother and it wasnt my goal anyway.
I think you would have no problem finishing a cat 5 race giving your current fitness. My reservations would come from your lack of experience with pack racing dynamics. In retrospect i think the only reason i did as well as i did was the fact that i was an expeirenced racer and know how to ride a race doing the least amount of work possible only because i know when to go hard and when not to waste energy. This is the tricky part of racing that takes experience to learn. That experience got me thru the whole race even though i was in less than optimum racing shape. Racing is a very mental sport. Start in cat 5 and learn how to race. You really need Cat 3 fitness or better to be competitive in Masters 40+ racing. Those guys are hardcore.
Veloduo
12-29-05, 12:06 PM
[QUOTE=karesz3]You may want to try a Cat 5 race just to get a taste, but I would highly recommend staying away from Cat 5 races as much as possible. It is way more dangerous than any other cats. You will get a great run for your money in the masters division, and those guys are generally value their safety more than medals or prizes. It sounds like you're in a decent shape, and if you have good bike handling skills than go for the 45+.
You basically are faced with a tough choice here: get smoked by the 45+ guys (and I do mean smoked -- they ain't slow and are usually way experienced racers; also, they'll tolerate little in the way of newbie squirrelyness) or get knocked down by the squirrely newbie Cat 5s. Sounds to ME like you could probably stand to drop 15-20 lbs and get way stronger before you try to do battle with the masters crowd.
I say go Cat 5 and ride aggresively AT THE FRONT at all times. Don't get stuck in the peloton. Cat 5 packs are meat-grinders, literally...
galen_52657
12-29-05, 12:46 PM
just for a dose of reality...
Here are the Snow Valley TT results from this year. 40k loop, flat as a pancake but a tad windy.
24.8 miles
Place Bib# Name Team Category Time Back
1 265 Team Snow Valley II :Soma (1) Four-man Team 0:51:47.95 ---
2 223 Roger Friend Monticello Velo Club (1) Senior 2 0:52:50.11 +1:02.16
3 229 Simon Walker Ncvc/Edge Technologies (2) Senior 2 0:52:57.31 +1:09.36
4 262 DC Velo II :Schreier (2) Four-man Team 0:53:01.30 +1:13.35
5 231 Kenneth Johnson Rockville Harley-Davidson/Mendocino (1) Pro/1 Elite 0:53:09.28 +1:21.33
6 72 Joshua Frick DC Velo/Martens Volvo (1) Master 30-34 0:53:24.75 +1:36.80
7 222 Rodger Carter Legg Mason Race Pace (3) Senior 2 0:53:42.17 +1:54.22
8 224 Chris Hardee Lsv/Kelly (4) Senior 2 0:53:59.57 +2:11.62
9 225 Ralph Muoio Lsv/Kelly (5) Senior 2 0:54:00.63 +2:12.68
10 110 Charles Schreier DC Velo/Marten's Volvo (1) Master 45-49 0:54:23.52 +2:35.57
11 125 Paul Langlois Team Snow Valley Presented BY Seal-On (1) Master 50-54 0:54:46.90 +2:58.95
12 218 Garner Woodall Rockville Harley-Davidson/Bicycle PRO Shop (1) Senior 3 0:55:11.99 +3:24.04
13 228 Paul Tower Lsv/Kelly (6) Senior 2 0:55:13.50 +3:25.55
14 230 George Ganoung US Armed Forces (2) Pro/1 Elite 0:55:20.66 +3:32.71
15 259 Artemis :Prickett (3) Four-man Team 0:55:50.60 +4:02.65
16 114 Randy Thrasher DC Velo / Martens Volvo (2) Master 45-49 0:55:51.83 +4:03.88
17 153 Stuart Ross (1) Master 55-59 0:55:53.89 +4:05.94
18 217 Richard Wolf FSVS (2) Senior 3 0:55:56.17 +4:08.22
19 86 Joseph Baremore DC Velo Club (1) Master 40-44 0:56:11.54 +4:23.59
20 113 Mark Sommers DC Velo/Martens Volvo (3) Master 45-49 0:56:21.11 +4:33.16
21 232 Peter Penzell Team Snow Valley P/B Seal ON (3) Pro/1 Elite 0:56:24.85 +4:36.90
22 221 Edward Brignole Lsv/Kelly (7) Senior 2 0:56:44.45 +4:56.50
23 80 Philippe Hensel Ncvc/Edge Technologies (1) Master 35-39 0:57:10.87 +5:22.92
24 111 Gregory Smith DC Velo/Martens Volvo (4) Master 45-49 0:57:21.49 +5:33.54
25 83 David Paul Artemis (2) Master 35-39 0:57:40.31 +5:52.36
26 69 Michael Sterns Team Snow Valley Present BY Seal ON (2) Master 30-34 0:57:47.58 +5:59.63
27 190 Clifton Chamberlin Rockville Harley-Davidson/Bicycle PRO Shop (1) Senior 4 0:57:55.88 +6:07.93
28 106 Michael McGraw DC Velo/Martens Volvo (5) Master 45-49 0:57:58.96 +6:11.01
29 202 Ted Michaels Evolution Cycling/Team Dls (2) Senior 4 0:58:07.60 +6:19.65
30 144 John Epting DC Velo (2) Master 55-59 0:58:10.48 +6:22.53
31 199 Eric Krause ALL American Bicycle Club (3) Senior 4 0:58:12.90 +6:24.95
32 288 Baird Webel Rockville Harley-Davidson/Bicycle PRO Shop (1) Tandem 0:58:20.08 +6:32.13
33 78 Jeff Fritz (3) Master 35-39 0:58:24.66 +6:36.71
34 215 Thomas Soladay Team Spirit (3) Senior 3 0:58:30.90 +6:42.95
35 195 Andreas Gutzeit Ncvc/Edge Technologies (4) Senior 4 0:58:37.73 +6:49.78
36 213 Mac Keliher NCVC (4) Senior 3 0:58:42.72 +6:54.77
37 92 Michael Keith Team Snow Valley Presented BY Seal-On (2) Master 40-44 0:58:52.12 +7:04.17
38 142 ART Crowley Ysg Racing/Brielle Cyclery/Wendy's (3) Master 55-59 0:59:14.95 +7:27.00
39 220 Kris Auer Lsv/Kelly (8) Senior 2 0:59:21.22 +7:33.27
40 198 Mark Kerlin Evolution Cycling Club/Team Dls (5) Senior 4 0:59:23.32 +7:35.37
41 194 Ryan Guttridge Lsv/Kelly (6) Senior 4 0:59:24.38 +7:36.43
42 95 Roger Masse ALL American Bicycle Club (3) Master 40-44 0:59:24.64 +7:36.69
43 89 Dewayne Fox Team Express/Pro Pedals (4) Master 40-44 0:59:25.60 +7:37.65
44 104 Randy Inglis Deep BLUE / Team Drt (6) Master 45-49 0:59:28.16 +7:40.21
45 115 Galen Wallace Lsv/Kelly (7) Master 45-49 0:59:40.34 +7:52.39
46 99 Joel Brazy Bikyle/Main Line Cycling Club (8) Master 45-49 0:59:42.45 +7:54.50
47 207 John Rogers DC Velo/Martens Volvo (7) Senior 4 0:59:42.94 +7:54.99
48 119 Craig Clark Evolution Cycling/Team Dls (2) Master 50-54 0:59:47.01 +7:59.06
49 134 Kerry Scanlon DC Velo (3) Master 50-54 0:59:47.50 +7:59.55
50 200 Robert Leach Evolution Cycling/ Team Dls (8) Senior 4 0:59:55.05 +8:07.10
51 203 Tony Moreno Ncvc-Edge Technologies (9) Senior 4 0:59:56.53 +8:08.58
52 109 Rob Saunders Squadra Coppi/Im Saab (9) Master 45-49 1:00:05.51 +8:17.56
53 201 Paul Lengermann Ncvc/Edge Technologies (10) Senior 4 1:00:09.34 +8:21.39
54 77 David Campbell ALL American Bicycle Club (4) Master 35-39 1:00:14.06 +8:26.11
55 208 Matt Stutts Ncvc/Edge Technologies (11) Senior 4 1:00:26.54 +8:38.59
56 87 BJ Basham Lsv/Kelly (5) Master 40-44 1:00:31.42 +8:43.47
57 84 Thomas Ragland Squadra Coppi/Im Saab (5) Master 35-39 1:00:36.16 +8:48.21
58 66 Chris Kelley Ncvc/Edge Technologies (1) Women 1/2 1:00:38.14 +8:50.19
59 211 Darek Bushnaq Lsv/Kelly (5) Senior 3 1:00:40.62 +8:52.67
60 117 David Wilson WWVC (10) Master 45-49 1:00:50.07 +9:02.12
61 178 David Pattie George Mason Univ. Cycling (1) Citizen 5 1:00:52.41 +9:04.46
62 91 Bernie Gumucio DC Velo/Martens Volvo (6) Master 40-44 1:00:53.74 +9:05.79
63 76 ARCH McKown Team Snow Valley Present BY Seal ON (3) Master 30-34 1:00:56.89 +9:08.94
64 94 Chris Long Squadra Coppi/Im Saab (7) Master 40-44 1:00:59.18 +9:11.23
65 140 Timothy Barry DC Velo/Martens Volvo (4) Master 55-59 1:01:11.73 +9:23.78
66 137 Temple Washington Evolution Cycling/Team Dls (4) Master 50-54 1:01:13.79 +9:25.84
67 167 Jonathan Gardner DC Velo/Martens Volvo (2) Citizen 5 1:01:14.95 +9:27.00
68 127 Thomas Licorish Cadence Cycling (5) Master 50-54 1:01:17.03 +9:29.08
69 279 Doreen Chaitt Hpc/List/Cardinal (2) Tandem 1:01:17.93 +9:29.98
70 130 Scott Olson Team Bbc (baltimore Bicycle Club) (6) Master 50-54 1:01:22.20 +9:34.25
71 61 Joanne Kembery DC Velo/Martens Volvo (1) Women 3 1:01:31.50 +9:43.55
72 189 Matthew Brancheau Lsv/Kelly (12) Senior 4 1:01:34.92 +9:46.97
73 148 Myron Lehtman NCVC EDGE Technologies (5) Master 55-59 1:01:49.46 +10:01.51
74 102 Frank Dougherty Lsv/Kelly (11) Master 45-49 1:01:50.23 +10:02.28
75 121 Murray Davis Lsv/Kelly (7) Master 50-54 1:01:57.33 +10:09.38
76 145 Jim Hartnett South Mountain Velo Club (6) Master 55-59 1:02:12.64 +10:24.69
77 82 Will Kembery DC Velo/Martens Volvo (6) Master 35-39 1:02:15.84 +10:27.89
78 135 John Spieker (8) Master 50-54 1:02:22.81 +10:34.86
79 205 KYLE Novak Evolution Cycling/Team Dls (13) Senior 4 1:02:30.33 +10:42.38
80 283 Gary Kelley South Mountain Velo Club (3) Tandem 1:02:30.51 +10:42.56
81 196 John Hostetter Iii Lateral Stress Velo/Kelly (14) Senior 4 1:02:32.07 +10:44.12
82 248 DC Velo I :Littlejohn (4) Four-man Team 1:02:37.18 +10:49.23
83 160 James Brannan Artemis (3) Citizen 5 1:02:39.72 +10:51.77
84 123 Daniel Kole Evolution Cycling (9) Master 50-54 1:02:42.64 +10:54.69
85 149 Bill Neumann Team Snow Valley Presented BY Seal-On (7) Master 55-59 1:02:43.40 +10:55.45
86 129 Tom Moore Team Snow Valley Presented BY Seal-On (10) Master 50-54 1:02:45.27 +10:57.32
87 122 Mike Harris King Pawn/Cheapeake Wheelmen (11) Master 50-54 1:02:49.63 +11:01.68
88 118 Robert Bell NCVC (12) Master 50-54 1:02:57.36 +11:09.41
89 90 Bill Gros Squadra Coppi/Im Saab (8) Master 40-44 1:02:58.63 +11:10.68
90 164 Tim Coulson Mid Maryland Triathlon Club (4) Citizen 5 1:03:03.66 +11:15.71
91 88 Spencer Beckett Team Snow Valley Present BY Seal-On (9) Master 40-44 1:03:10.88 +11:22.93
92 159 Jason Anthony (5) Citizen 5 1:03:11.26 +11:23.31
93 187 Frederick Zirm Unattached (6) Citizen 5 1:03:12.83 +11:24.88
94 219 Chad Young Team Snow Valley PB Seal-On (6) Senior 3 1:03:16.18 +11:28.23
95 81 Tom Johnson (7) Master 35-39 1:03:17.94 +11:29.99
96 146 Bill Hitz First State Velo Sport (8) Master 55-59 1:03:20.24 +11:32.29
97 73 Thomas Hoopengardner (4) Master 30-34 1:03:33.03 +11:45.08
98 67 Janet Olney Team Bbc (2) Women 1/2 1:03:37.76 +11:49.81
99 204 Jason Mulveny Ncvc- EDGE Technologies (15) Senior 4 1:03:57.03 +12:09.08
100 192 Ed Fisher Shorevelocity (16) Senior 4 1:04:07.35 +12:19.40
101 132 Max Rogozinski Prince William Elite Racing (13) Master 50-54 1:04:07.59 +12:19.64
102 158 Scott Anderson BPVC (7) Citizen 5 1:04:12.74 +12:24.79
103 212 Jason Croasdale Lateral Stress Velo (7) Senior 3 1:04:18.44 +12:30.49
104 58 Amity Elliot Team Bbc (2) Women 3 1:04:23.42 +12:35.47
105 116 Greg Werth DC Velo/Martens Volvo (12) Master 45-49 1:04:51.54 +13:03.59
106 177 Steve Owens Team Snow Valley (8) Citizen 5 1:04:54.85 +13:06.90
107 152 Neal Reynolds Bike Doctor (9) Master 55-59 1:05:03.48 +13:15.53
108 85 Lawrence Wans Privateer (8) Master 35-39 1:05:06.48 +13:18.53
109 188 Kevin Berents Squadra Coppi (17) Senior 4 1:05:08.15 +13:20.20
110 269 Artemis I :Estes (1) Four-woman Team 1:05:27.65 +13:39.70
111 210 David Whiting Artemis (18) Senior 4 1:05:36.60 +13:48.65
112 31 Jenniferq Carter (1) Women 40+ 1:05:40.97 +13:53.02
113 32 Veronica Eckert (2) Women 40+ 1:05:45.93 +13:57.98
114 139 Kenneth P. Zabielski Squadra Coppi (14) Master 50-54 1:05:56.01 +14:08.06
115 157 John Wilson Prince William Elite Racing (power) (10) Master 55-59 1:06:03.06 +14:15.11
116 206 Thomas O'neil Squadra Coppi/Im Saab (19) Senior 4 1:06:11.33 +14:23.38
117 186 Matt Wolfe (9) Citizen 5 1:06:28.50 +14:40.55
118 181 Trevor Shattuck Team Bbc (10) Citizen 5 1:06:28.60 +14:40.65
119 59 Laura Ferree Hpc/List/Cardinal (3) Women 3 1:06:33.75 +14:45.80
120 124 David Lain (15) Master 50-54 1:06:45.03 +14:57.08
121 64 Janelle Hubbard Ncvc/National Capital Velo Club (3) Women 1/2 1:06:57.18 +15:09.23
122 166 Edward Dobranetski Ncvc/Edge Technologies (11) Citizen 5 1:07:01.60 +15:13.65
123 173 Mark Jones (12) Citizen 5 1:07:08.70 +15:20.75
124 183 Edward Stopyra (13) Citizen 5 1:07:24.40 +15:36.45
125 147 Kris Kudrnac Evolution (11) Master 55-59 1:07:38.61 +15:50.66
126 43 Cynthia Johnson Artemis (1) Women 4 1:08:13.79 +16:25.84
127 71 Kenneth Caputo (5) Master 30-34 1:08:19.84 +16:31.89
128 184 Jeff Sturgess (14) Citizen 5 1:08:20.72 +16:32.77
129 172 Karim Iman Bicycle Place Velo Club- BPVC (15) Citizen 5 1:08:30.90 +16:42.95
130 50 Susanne Morsberger Team Bbc (2) Women 4 1:08:30.94 +16:42.99
131 108 Alan Romefelt Lsv - Kelly (13) Master 45-49 1:08:32.64 +16:44.69
132 155 Peter Swan Ncvc/Edge Technologies, INC. (12) Master 55-59 1:08:39.47 +16:51.52
133 65 Meg Render Team Snow Valley Presented BY Seal-On (4) Women 1/2 1:08:43.81 +16:55.86
134 75 Thomas Voyten (6) Master 30-34 1:08:51.72 +17:03.77
135 133 James Levitt Bike Doctor (16) Master 50-54 1:08:59.36 +17:11.41
136 169 Jimmy Hargrove Evolution Cycling / Team Dls (16) Citizen 5 1:09:03.37 +17:15.42
137 34 J. Beth Gunter Chesapeake Wheelman/King Pawn/Joe's Bikes (3) Women 40+ 1:09:06.07 +17:18.12
138 180 Gene Rathgeber Artemis (17) Citizen 5 1:09:08.56 +17:20.61
139 68 Heidi Woolever Team Snow Valley (5) Women 1/2 1:09:10.46 +17:22.51
140 185 Scott Wilets Bicycle Place Velo Club (18) Citizen 5 1:09:13.35 +17:25.40
141 278 Robert Barrett Team Drt/Deep BLUE (4) Tandem 1:09:13.69 +17:25.74
142 165 Brian Della (19) Citizen 5 1:09:27.09 +17:39.14
143 56 Marybeth Cochran (4) Women 3 1:09:38.16 +17:50.21
144 63 Angela Purcell Team Bbc (5) Women 3 1:09:46.35 +17:58.40
145 174 John Kasic (20) Citizen 5 1:10:04.35 +18:16.40
146 55 Christine Wehlburg Ncvc/Edge Technologies (3) Women 4 1:10:09.22 +18:21.27
147 47 Jennifer Kopecko (4) Women 4 1:10:10.30 +18:22.35
148 151 Bobby Phillips Team Snow Valley Presented BY Seal-On (13) Master 55-59 1:10:37.23 +18:49.28
149 44 Margaret Kilby Artemis (5) Women 4 1:10:49.36 +19:01.41
150 53 Becky Spada Hpc/List/Cardinal (6) Women 4 1:10:55.22 +19:07.27
151 35 Mimi Newcastle Hpc/List/Cardinal (4) Women 40+ 1:11:42.79 +19:54.84
152 42 Andrea Hogarth Bicycle Place Velo Club (7) Women 4 1:11:57.27 +20:09.32
153 143 Martin Dumke (14) Master 55-59 1:12:18.59 +20:30.64
154 52 Melinda Simons U/A (8) Women 4 1:12:28.93 +20:40.98
155 275 Artemis II :Johnson (2) Four-woman Team 1:12:45.10 +20:57.15
156 30 Nancy Avitabile (5) Women 40+ 1:12:55.77 +21:07.82
157 41 Mariel Galvan Artemis (9) Women 4 1:12:56.33 +21:08.38
158 193 Geoffrey Goodman (20) Senior 4 1:12:59.27 +21:11.32
159 48 YO Kumm Artemis (10) Women 4 1:13:35.63 +21:47.68
160 60 Sheila Gudiswitz Artemis (6) Women 3 1:14:02.54 +22:14.59
161 51 Marisa Peacock Potomac Velo Club (11) Women 4 1:14:11.09 +22:23.14
162 62 Christine Lynch Baltimore Bicycling Club (7) Women 3 1:14:33.76 +22:45.81
163 49 Corinne Moriatis Artemis (12) Women 4 1:15:08.76 +23:20.81
164 45 Diane Koher Team Bbc (13) Women 4 1:15:29.06 +23:41.11
165 179 Jerry Pollatos Evolution Cycling Club/Team Dsl (21) Citizen 5 1:17:40.23 +25:52.28
166 131 Fred Rednor Squadra Coppi (17) Master 50-54 1:17:58.20 +26:10.25
167 79 David Harrity Team Mil-Vets (9) Master 35-39 1:17:58.45 +26:10.50
168 251 Squadra Coppi I :Long (5) Four-man Team 1:18:56.49 +27:08.54
169 36 Celia Shelton (6) Women 40+ 1:22:54.04 +31:06.09
170 33 Caroline Fonseca (7) Women 40+ 1:32:37.52 +40:49.
You might want to note that the guy who was second behind the 4-man team is a 45+ rider
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