Track Cycling: Velodrome Racing and Training Area - Stayers Racing

Here is a cool picture........

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/dec05/weihnachtspreis05/Podlesch_Doerich.jpg


I love the stayers race at 6days. Take a glimpse at the motor...the dude is standing up...24inch front wheel on the track bike...hot damn!

up...24inch front wheel on the track bike...hot damn!

And forks turned backwards giving monster trail.

And some impressive gear inches....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/dec05/weihnachtspreis05/Stayers_Bike_Kappes.jpg

Check out how the sidewalls of the tyres are taped to the wheels.

Best thing they ever did was kick that corrupt anachorism of an event out of the World Championships.

Check out how the sidewalls of the tyres are taped to the wheels.

Best thing they ever did was kick that corrupt anachorism of an event out of the World Championships.


Yep....unless you were Belgian, German or Danish it was a complete mystery of an event. You know those ancient BMW's that the pacers ride virtually standing up have no mufflers? So it's not only a 74kmh average, but it's deafening as well!

Yep....unless you were Belgian, German or Danish it was a complete mystery of an event.

No mystery at all. Pay off the oppositions moto riders - you win.



You know those ancient BMW's that the pacers ride virtually standing up have no mufflers? So it's not only a 74kmh average, but it's deafening as well!

Exactly. The old man was at the worlds in 93 when one of those big suckers crashed. Back wheel spinning, motor still going, half the track chewed up (took an hour to repair), greasy looking moto rider with 70's porno moustache sprawled out on the ground - the whole thing looked unprofessional. Dad and his mate had passes to the centre of the track - his mate actually switched the thing off before it killed someone.

i just love how blatantly rigged it is.

plus. it is all old racers driving those things anyways....

derny races are exciting...but they are nothing compared to stayers racing.

Hi,
I am glad you enjoyed yourself

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK) :)

The sport has moved on and the above event was not blatantly rigged as you point out!

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

No mystery at all. Pay off the oppositions moto riders - you win.




Lol......too true. Danny Clark was world champ in 89, I think...

Danny Clark (Australia)
Professional stayers World Champion in 1988 and 1991,
finished 2nd in 1985 and 1987 and 3rd in 1990

European Stayer Champion 1988.

World Derny Champion 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988 1989.
2nd 1987 3rd 1990.
The World Derny Championship ran from 1978 to 1990.

European Derny Champion 1985, 1986, 1990
2nd 1987 & 2nd 1989

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

Danny Clark (Australia)
Professional stayers World Champion in 1988 and 1991,
finished 2nd in 1985 and 1987 and 3rd in 1990

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)


Thanks...memory ain't what it used to be. :D

Maybe that event above wasn't rigged...but judging by the history of stayers racing......

lol.

Ok then I have a question for you Which Stayer won 7 World Championships?

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

Ok then I have a question for you Which Stayer won 7 World Championships?

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

Would have to be Carsten Podlesch?

If not, I have absolutely no idea.

"CLUE" The Stayer was British?

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

Nup....no idea.

Malcolm Elliott??





:D

Malc never rode any stayers racers

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

Here is the answer

Leon Meredith (Great Britain)
7 x Amateur Stayers World Champion in 1904, 1905, 1907, 1908, 1909, 1911 and 1913.
Leon was born on the 02-02- 1883 in London a member of the Bath Road Club, and died in a skiing accident in Switserland on the 27-01-1930 46 years.
Leon is also mentioned in the Guinness Book of Records.

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

Nup....no idea.

Malcolm Elliott??





:D


Wrong stayer event ed!!! :p

For all those they never did it or have even never seen a Stayers race, but think they know it all, can I tell you that there are still motorpaced races in several countries, even in Russia & in South Africa.

Stayersarchive Paul Spender (Great Britain) http://imageevent.com/dernysportuk

Dernysport UK (Great Britain) : http://www.dernysportuk.com

British Pacing Association (Great Britain) : http://www.bpa.builtfree.org

Stayeren in Nederland (Holland) : http://www.achterdegrotemotoren.nl

Steherrennen im Forst (Germany) : http://renegierth.re.funpic.de

Stayer Oliver Vrchoticky (Austria) : http://www.stayer.de

Le Fondus du Demi-Fond (France) : http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/fondus.du.demi-fond

Le Demi-Fond en France (France) : http://monsite.wanadoo.fr/fondus.du.demi-fond2

Yep....unless you were Belgian, German or Danish it was a complete mystery of an event.

Yeah, some seems to know it all.
Don't tell this to Danny Clark - 3 times world champion !!!!!!!!!!!! and winner of several other medals in motorpaced races.

In the first place you have to follow the motor with a speed of 65 till 75 km/hr, in a race of 60 minutes, pushing a gear of 65, 66, 67, 68 or more x 14, 15 or 16 sprockets.

Following Classic 1 they All were corrupt ???????

Graeme French (Australia)
World Champion professional stayers 1956, 3rd place in 1957.
3rd place European Stayer championships 1955 and 1956.

Umm, what is your point? The stayer event was discontinued as a world championship event because the UCI felt it was corrupt, anachoristic and an embarrassment. Posting pics of Australians who won rainbow jerseys in that event does not change that fact, even though the demi-fond was always widely recognised as being an extremely tough and highly skilled discipline.

Ask Danny Clark (who lived in Belgium for 20 years BTW) about some of the stayer WC's he didn't win. :)

Thanks for posting those great old pictures and the web links, they are excellent!

http://photos.imageevent.com/dernysportuk/websitepics/Stayer_Sport_29647.gif

http://photos.imageevent.com/dernysportuk/stayerpictures/websize/Stayer%20Fun%20Picture.jpg

And Further more it is a Real classic that will never die.Why is that, because thousands of Fans enjoy it so.
And come out to watch and be entertained.

Fact not Fiction!!!

*STAYER - used from around 1894 to describe the bicycle racer who competed in paced
(human and motor) events, and was able to 'stay' at high speed for long periods.

Paul Spender (Derny Sport UK)

- even though the demi-fond was always widely recognised as being an extremely tough and highly skilled discipline.

Yes, indeed, a lot of accidents has happen and some riders have got killed ............ but that's all before World War II 1940 - 1945.

The last stayer who got killed during a race was in 1959 when Belgian Willy "Rupske" Lauwers in Palma De Majorca (Spain) when he got 2 flat tyres (punctures) at the same time, and fell down off a very steep 50° banked track.

When you see how many stayer races are held and how many miles/km the stayers are riding behind this (special made) motors, without any accidents or injuries. The same is for the Derny races, because the pacers and riders are all very experienced in this.

Believe me, a lot more serious accidents happen (every year) in road races, the descents after Hill climbs, MTB descents, and not forget, during Keirin sprint races on the track.

I have seen a few hundred Derny and Stayer races, but are just waiting (and have never seen) a crash during a race or on training.
A bit different with some other track disiplines like madison, were I have seen 2, 3 , 4 and more crashes in only a 40 min. race.

If it is so dangerous I don't think that a 65 year old guy, like German stayer Paul Bruggeman, here behind his pacer, was still riding in competition in Germany and outside. (See picture enclosed)

Thanks for posting those great old pictures and the web links, they are excellent!


+1

Bruno Walrave in the porno sunnies is pure gold!!

I went to 6 days race in Berlin last week.

Gday Tomity. I'm jealous. :D Did you enjoy the racing?

I am new to track and the different races, and unfamiliar with Stayer Racing. Could someone direct me to a good website/source so I can read up on this? I go to Lehigh and have not seen it there yet but I only started in past year. Thanks!

I am new to track and the different races, and unfamiliar with Stayer Racing. Could someone direct me to a good website/source so I can read up on this? I go to Lehigh and have not seen it there yet but I only started in past year. Thanks!


Rarely raced outside northern europe these days. Dangerous for the inexperienced (pacer & stayer) and hard to follow for a lot of the punters.

I went to 6 days race in Berlin last week.

Geez, the pacer in the first picture would give you about the same draft effect as a Mack truck!! :eek:

Geez, the pacer in the first picture would give you about the same draft effect as a Mack truck!! :eek:


Porcine gents with about 30 years experience are highly sought after...

Porcine gents with about 30 years experience are highly sought after...

Sounds like you are describing Ron Jeremey :D Different type of experience tho :lol:

that's gold.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-457375701931514945&hl=en

Now after seeing it "live", and I am completely ignorant of this type of track racing, I've got to ask: how do the riders communicate with the motorcycle riders? How does the racer tell the driver to speed up or down? How long is each race? Sorry but now I am really curious! Thank you all.

The riders can say one of two things to their driver: "Allez" (faster) and "Whoa" (slower). It's also apparently so loud (both the motorbike and the pedaled bike) that you couldn't say much more than that. A former 6-day racer I know was telling us about it one day and said "Yeah, and in all my years of racing I don't think I ever once said 'Allez'"-- the drivers really manage the race for their riders.

there's a pretty in depth article in the current ProCycling mag.

Im pretty sure id need about 10 beers in me to find that entertaining.

Im pretty sure id need about 10 beers in me to find that entertaining.

at a 6-day they can accomodate you in this regard. :)

Pacers dictate the....errr.....pace. If they see the stayer dropping off the wheel, they'll ease off.

It's too loud.