Fifty Plus (50+) - New to biking for exercise

Hi.

I'm in my late forties and just decided to start cycling for exercise. I've had my share of heart health issues at age 40, and I really need to add something to my exercise regimen, which only consists of Pilate's Reformer right now.

I do medical transcription from home, and it is a horribly sedentary job that is taking its toll on me physically. I feel 60.. :(

I live in SC, small town, and I am looking for a bike to ride around the roads in the sub, as well as a way to travel to some nearby stores to do a little shopping, and possibly up to Curves to get a little exercise there. Those trips would be just 3-4 miles maybe. I'll start slow.

What I would like is advice on a starter bike for myself. I don't have a lot of money to spend, maybe just $150 max right now, especially since I will have to buy shoes and extras for bike safety. I looked at Walmart today, but just can't decide.

I will be on good roads in the sub, but I will also have to ride on the side of the road for my store trips, which is gravel/dirt-type gradients in some areas, grass on others. I know nothing really about bikes, except what I've researched today. I had thought about a mountain bike, but I don't want it to be sluggish on the good roads. I'm not into major speed. I don't care for the racing handlebars.

I want something basic and durable that I can upgrade later if needed. I'm into comfort ;) I want this to be fun and something I enjoy, not a struggle. Can I find a half-decent bike in my price range at the local Walmart or K-Mart stores? The ones they show at the walmart.com are pretty much what I'm seeing at the store, though they were picked over so bad I had a lot of nothing to really look at.

Also, why do they stick the bikes up in the air ten feet above your head? How are you supposed to decipher the right fit?

I appreciate any feedback. I'd like to make a purchase Friday or Saturday.

Thanks folks. :)

First off, welcome to the forum.

Truth be told, I'd strongly recommend against buying a Walmart bike. There are numerous safety and quality issues involving what they're selling. You might just be throwing your money away or worse.

For $150, you're not going to get too much at a dedicated bike shop as well, so I guess I'm going to recommend you keep an eye out for used bikes at places like Craigslist.com.

As far as types of bikes, I'd consider a hybrid if I were in your shoes. But, hybrids come in many flavors. If you want something stable on less than ideal roads, but able to cruise efficiently on regular roads, search for one with flat handle bars up front. If they're raised too much, they'll put your body position all off for efficient cycling. Also, you'll have to have an idea as to what size bike you need. Fit is very significant as far as bicycling goes. Do a search. There are many online sites that will help in this regard.

Most of all, listen to the adivice of those that will post in your thread. They'll add a lot.

One more thing, don't be too rushed in your decision. Be judicious.

First, what KeithA said.

Second, get thee to an LBS (local bike shop). Yes, you'll spend a little more there, but you will get something that's SAFE, and assembled by people who build bikes for a living, not a smart-alek 18 year old part-timer at Walmart.

I was sort of in your shoes seven months ago. Wanted to get into biking, but didn't want to spend too much because I wasn't sure if I'd stick with it. I ended up buying a relatively low-end Trek mountain bike for about twice your budget. I'm COMPLETELY glad I did.

It works well, it goes where I want to go (which, surprisingly, is mostly on the road). The store keeps giving me free (lifetime) minor adjustments so my brakes are perfect, my shifters work, etc.

I had briefly tried a used piece of junk that turns out was a Walmart bike. It was so awful I can't even tell you. I bought it and sold it on Craigslist for the same price a couple of weeks later. God that was a bad bike!

Trek at least (others may as well) had a deal -- one year, no interest, pay as much as you like each month until it's paid. I took the deal and paid it off in two or three months.

I'm more knowledgeable now, and I believe all the major brands are going to offer similar values at about $300 or so. Maybe you can find one that has a leftover 2004 model or 2005 model and save a few bucks. But don't be penny wise and pound foolish -- you need something of quality to be out there in traffic playing with cars.

You said your health is the issue: do not cut corners now. Get the minimum BEST bike you can stretch your budget into, and you'll be glad you did.

Welcome to the forum!

Check local bicycle dealers for closeouts and used bikes.

Be sure the bike fits you. Most WM bikes come in just one size. Sadly, the world is not one size.

Good luck and keep us informed.

Bicycling has a way of becoming an addiction (right, DG?) so don't be surprised if it grabs you pretty hard.

Have fun. BTW, my wife didn't start "more serious" bicycling until she was 62yo. You are still a "youngun."

You can find bikes in your price range at K-mart, Walmart, Dick's Sporting Goods and other retailers, but don't expect them to be very upgradeable. Also make sure that you have a competent bike mechanic look it over to ensure it is assembled properly or assemble it. K-Mart and Dicks seem to carry the Royce Union Calais which might serve your needs. http://www.kmart.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=133755&Ne=410000000&Ntt=bicycle&Ntk=All&more=Brand_RN&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&N=1586+4294961562&Nty=1

These retailers also carry Schwinns, which are a fairly respected brand, you might look at them as well.

Local Bike Shops carry a much wider variety of bicycles that are of higher quality, which also means higher price. The minimum is probably about $219 or so, but they may have used bikes or earlier model years that you can get a better deal on. They also should have knowledgeable sales people and mechanics who can help you find the right bike for you, ensure it is put together right and fit for you, keep it maintained for you, and help you gain the knowledge to do routine maintenance tasks yourself.

Other sources of help, at the local bike shops there might be some monthly bike magazine/journals. In it are local people who are selling used bikes. Also they will list the local bike clubs whose members might be selling and also beginner riders might join the rides and meetings. You might need a support group, a mentor, or just other women to talk with about riding.

Missy C,
A bike shop will be a better choice than a discount store like Wal Mart or K Mart. It will be cheaper in the long run to spend a little more and get a bike that suits your needs. A good bike shop will be able to help choose a bike that fits you. Here is a little reading you can do to prepare yourself to answer questions from the bike shop staff.

BIKE FITTING (http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit/index.cfm)

Explain to the folks at the bike shop how much you have to spend and ask that they set you up with something in your price range. They will be more likely to want to help you get the right bike than the folks at *Mart because the local bike shop wants repeat business and they know you will be back if they make you happy.
Ask around at your Pilates class and see if there are any bike riders that can help you shop. It sometimes helps to have someone there who can advise you.
Make sure you let us know what you buy and check in with progress reports on your rides and Welcome to the forum.

Dogbait

Old hand at cycling, but I'm relatively new to the forum as well. Just wanted to welcome you. I don't have anything to add other than what has already been said by others above -- it's all good advice.

Missy C,
You've plenty of advice here to start. Welcome to BF. Keep us posted on your progress towards getting a bike and your first few rides. I agree that cycling should always be fun first...although your interest in it and your expectations may evolve in surprizing ways. Hope to read your posts.

Wow, great advice and suggestions! I am glad I happened in here.

I will check out the bike stores and look for service-oriented deals. I had a feeling that the advice would be to put a little more money into something with more quality. I am a pretty firm believer that you get what you pay for!

I do want this to be a safe and positive experience, and the roads are definitely less than favorable the minute I leave the subdivision with very little space off the road, which means I will be playing in the traffic. I am also going to be riding alone much of the time, so I definitely don't want to get a few miles from home and break down. I have a feeling, knowing me, that I will love it and, as mentioned, become addicted and start venturing out further. There are some nicer subdivisions a couple miles from here that have bike trails.

That's funny, I was talking to a guy in cosmetics at Walmart that told me they could put the bike together for free in a very short time, and I had images of my wheels popping off and my brakes going out because something wasn't assembled properly.

I'm sure I can do upkeep myself once I have read the manual and someone has shown me. I'm pretty good about stuff like that. I'm willing to put out what it takes to keep the bike in tip-top shape as well.

I can see I have a lot to learn. We have some real brainless idiots driving our subdivision and the nearby areas. I guess they are everywhere. They have already plowed down my cat just a block away and killed her. I've also had to jump off the side of the road while walking to the store to avoid getting plowed down myself. They speed, peel out, drive drunk. The list goes on. I will have to be very alert and read up on all the safety tips I can get a hold of.

I appreciate all of your input, and am open minded to all suggestions. The magazines and cycling clubs/partners is a great idea too. I'd considered a recumbent bike, but I just can't see doing all that work and going nowhere. lol. I am bored to death on a treadmill for the same reason. Besides, when you work at home, you really need to get out and get some fresh air or you end up in a real rut, which is what I'm in. ugh..

I'll keep you updated as to what I find out this weekend at the local shops. Next stop, Yellow Pages. :)

I trust you all know your business. It's been years "many" since I rode a bike, and I recall not enjoying it because I was on someone else's bike "a racer" that was way too much bike for me, and I was trying to ride it on dirt/gravel off the road on medians dodging traffic and stones, which if too big, would catch the wheel and toss me. I was very athletic in my younger days though. I know my body will hate, then appreciate, then crave cycling!

I, of course, want all the little extras too, i.e., correct clothing and shoes, lights and reflectors, emergency kits....Where I'll keep it is beyond me. Looks like the living room right now?!

Wish me luck. I will look for fit, quality, service and make sure the bike is suited to my needs. The bike shops might even let me take it for a spin first!!

That's funny, I was talking to a guy in cosmetics at Walmart that told me they could put the bike together for free in a very short time, and I had images of my wheels popping off and my brakes going out because something wasn't assembled properly.

Go with your gut instincts here. :-)

Where I'll keep it is beyond me. Looks like the living room right now?!

I live alone, and rent a two bedroom townhouse without a garage. Didn't bother me too much to find a spot on a living room wall to park my Trek 3900 MTB. But then we brought my daughter's bike here where she'll get more use out of it. Okay, there's sort of a back wall in the large dining room where it can sit. But then along came another kid's bike I picked up, hoping to entice my other daughter to join us on rides. It can sort of squeeze in by the other one in the dining room. So far, so good, I suppose. But yesterday I picked up another (used) bike to have as a "beater" for errands and such. I have no idea where it's going to go.

So, I went from none to four in seven months and there's no let up in sight. I'm already toying -- JUST TOYING, PEOPLE! -- with picking up another El Cheapo so I can tear it down and put it back together to learn bike mechanics. That will make five, and I'll need a bike repair stand as well.

You might want to rethink this cycling thing, Missy. Just a warning!!! :D

Once you have your bike, helmet, and gloves (protect your hands)...other gear falls in place as you perceive the need. There's lots of collective knowledge here and some good sense, too.........and more-than-willingness tp share it 8-). Comfort and intuitive alertness for traffic comes as you gather some miles. A mirror (eyeglass, helmet, or handlebar mounted) can be a help. Learning to ride straight while glancing back also comes.

And definitely take those bikes for a spin first...insist they pick out a suitable size and they adjust it to your body proportions to get the best impressions of any models you try.

Missy-Welcome to our party!! You will find that there are many of us who have traveled down the same path you're hopefully going to go down. Riding a bike is a great way to get some excercise and enjoy it at the same time!!

Like others have suggested, I would suggest going by a good LBS that has hybrids, mountain bikes, etc that you can put your hands on and see if there's something that would work for you. With that information you can begin looking on the internet and get even more information.

I'm in NC (Charlotte area) and could possibly provide some advice on Local Bike Shops near you to check out. If you'd rather not share the closest "larger town" near you in SC I completely understand. However, if you are in the upstate there are several excellent shops you could drop by and ask questions.

Too late, I'm already psyched! ;) I'm already window/screen shopping for clothes and shoes. Ha...

I am pretty amazed at the prices of some of the bikes. I have a feeling that you have a higher-end cycle if you have to get a "beater" for the routine stuff, probably a lot of you do, eh? My husband has no idea what's in store..lol. He may regret that offer a couple months ago of, "hey, why don't we get some bikes?" Of course, it was just a fleeting thought for him. He works in the medical field and works long hours. I, on the other hand, am seriously looking for a new form of exercise that will get me out of the house, and I have chosen this because it is a lot more realistic "in my mind" than jumping around in an aerobics class or trying to twist myself into a pretzel. It's something I can conceivably do for years to come and not a trendy waste of money.

I am a little frightened at where this could lead actually! I'm already, just after signing on here, planning on about $100 more than I started with. If they let me make payments, the amount could increase yet again. I've already given myself a cycling allowance each pay day, and I don't even have a bike yet. ;)

I am sitting here contemplating rearranging my living room, so it has a new safe and dry home where I can fiddle with it. I can just imagine your dining room! lol. Also, this probably is a great family activity/sport. I don't have children, but it really sounds like a great thing to do. Who doesn't like to ride a bike? The kids probably love your passion.

Btw, I was reading on the article mentioned above for getting the right fit. Do they really do all that at a bike store for you? That's pretty awesome if they do.

Also, should I get shoes after the bike? It looks like shoes are made for different bikes?

I have a lot of reading to do here, so I've upgraded my membership here off the bat. More than happy to actually. I'm a rather methodical thinker, and I want to know everything about everything. My passion has been computers, but I'm burnt out, and I think that's about to change in a big way.

Hey, I'm already lonely riding my bike...lol. Contemplating where and how to find some girls to ride with. I don't really know anybody here. I've been stuck in my office like a prisoner for three years now. My husband called, and I rattled on about all the advice and my decision to go with a local bike store. I was talking about reflectors and lights and city ordinances, which I've yet to look up, and he said, "you're not planning on riding after dark are you?" Ahhh, yeah. Maybe morning, noon and night if I get the right bike. I think I'm scaring him! :D

Yes, I can see where this could become a real obsession! I did read though that previous MI (myocardial infarction) patients can lessen their risks of another heart attack by up to 50% by cycling a few miles a day. I could probably lower my cholesterol, lose some weight, build muscle, and improve my achy knee syndrome. Heck, that alone is worth the price of admission!

The only drawbacks I see at this time is the weather here in the summer. It gets extremely hot and humid for months at a time. I'm sure there are helpful gadgets for that though.

I think my doc and cardiologist will be very pleased with my decision! I will have to read on and see what health benefits people in my age group have experienced. I suppose this would be the time to quit smoking too. :eek:

Can't wait to get let loose in the bike store! Zoom, zoom..

Hi ippie. I'm enjoying the party and have a feeling I will be around for awhile. :)

I live in Goose Creek, SC, which is about 15 miles north of Charleston. It's a fair-sized town. Have you heard of it? North Charleston is the next larger town.

While I'm here, I'm just wondering; does the mountain bike kind of "lag" on the good roads because of the "all-terrain-type" tread? I'll probably look back and laugh at my use of cycling jargon, but that's the best I can do right now..lol. Do you know what I mean?

Also, should I get shoes after the bike? It looks like shoes are made for different bikes? Zoom, zoom..

Okay, now I'm going to save you some money (at first). Don't buy shoes. I ride wearing running shoes (sneakers) on what are called platform pedals -- the same kind of pedals you remember from being a kid. Later on, you can get into bike shoes if you want, but you don't need them to start. Truly. I've ridden 1,300 miles since June (which sounds like a lot but isn't compared with *some* people I know...lol) and I haven't had a problem.

Later you can get straps or go clipless but for now just ride in tennis shoes. Others may disagree, but it's worked for me. Most likely, the bike you'll end up with will have platform pedals anyway.

The fit on a "road" bike (You might know them as a "RACER/10-speed") is much more delicate and precise than the fit required for a mtn bike, comfort bike or a hybrid. The article was primarily aimed at road bikers.

BTW, 10 speeds have changed to 30 speeds.

You can put "slicks" on a mtn bike - in fact you SHOULD, unless you are going to go barreling down narrow single track trails. They work well, and are much faster.

If you decide to go with a mountain bike, Trek has one for $219 list, have the shop swop out the knobby tires for slicks. These will have a smoother center on the tire for riding on the rode.
I started riding a bicycle again last May and it has really lowered my blood pressure. Good luck and enjoy.

Biking shoes have stiffer soles to avoid "hot spots" on the bottom of your feet from pressure points. You can wear them without cleats or without using toe clips.

But, for now, tennis shoes are fine.

Too late, I'm already psyched! ;) I'm already window/screen shopping for clothes and shoes. Ha...


Ok, time for some money saving tips on gear and accessories before your old man comes huntin us. :)

For gear and accessories there are lots of online sources that can save you some money.

Nashbar - http://www.nashbar.com/ is one, they also have a selection of returned items.

Performance Bike - http://www.performancebike.com/ they actually own Nashbar, but the two sites carry different items.

J&G Cyclewear - http://www.bicycleclothing.com/ these folks carry great rain gear and cycling shorts - made by cyclists for cyclists, at better costs than some of the high-dollar stuff you find in Nashbar, Performance, REI, MEC or most LBS

Harris Cyclery - http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/index.html the home of Sheldon Brown, you can learn a lot about cycling and bicycles from Sheldon's writings. They also carry some items that are hard to find elsewhere.

Then of course there is EBay, you can find some pretty good deals there, but DON'T GET HOOKED ;)

Another good information resource is Ken Kifer's Bike Pages - http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/ Ken is no longer with us, but his writing about cycling has helped and inspired a lot of people, including me.

And of course you've already found another great resource - Bike Forums - lots of great people here who will answer your questions - and sometimes even give you good answers! (joke)

EDP, I am very happy to hear your BP has gone down! That's fantastic! I think anytime you can decrease the need for more medication, it's a good thing!

My BP already runs fairly low, last check was 112/70. I do have to take BP meds though for heart health for the rest of my life. My bigger problem is cholesterol, which is my inheritance I guess. I am having levels drawn on 01/12/06, so at least I will have a good reference for "before and after" adding cycling to my daily "to do" list. I am hoping to decrease the need for cholesterol meds altogether eventually with exercise and better food choices, therefore of course, decreasing the risk of another MI.

Congratulations on the lower scores, and keep up the good work!

Chip, thanks for the links. I've bookmarked them, and I have about half of Ken's site read. I intend to finish reading his site and suggestions before I get out on the road. What a horrible and senseless loss! He really was passionate about riding, and I am glad that the site is still up and being maintained!

I am a big Ebay fan, and I had already did a search there and found a couple new clothing items I have my eye on. I've been hooked on Ebay for some time now. :)

Thanks again for the helpful links and taking the time to post them. I have a new folder started for cycling links, and I won't forget where the first ones came from!

Also, I wanted to note that I had my eye on that very bike at KM that you linked to. I had looked at the online Marts before going to WM, but something told me to hold off and talk to people who knew what was up first.

I am definitely going with the locals and will spend a little more to get a good safe bike.

Looks like you've gotten some great advise so far. I'll add just a few things. A very good hybrid bike to consider is the Trek 7200. It can be had for about $350. That this is beyond your current budget but can be justified by the fact that you'll not have to upgrade as soon, if at all, and this bike is built well enough to last you for years. It's one notch down from the Trek 7300 which gives you higher quality components for an extra $70 or so. Another benefit is that it can only be purchased new from a bike shop. A reputable shop will make sure that the bike is properly put together and that it fits you.
Getting started with biking and you'll find that the bike is only part of the start up cost. As you wander the isles of the local bike shop(LBS) you'll want to buy one of everything. Quickly divide the start up gear into two groups, necessary and not necessary. Team Discovery Channel Jersey for $100, not necessary. Helmet, necessary. Giro Pneumo helmet for $140, not necessary. You don't need bicycle clothing or shoes to start. These things will make cycling more enjoyable but the aren't needed to start. In fact, until you figure out exactly how much and what type of riding your going to do, buying these things is a waste of money. Once you're into it you'll figure out what you need and that's when you should buy it. Plenty of people ride in street clothes and will never need more.
If you're reading this you're on the web and the web is the answer to all your biking needs including finding people to ride with. Google bicycle clubs in your state. Once you have a list of clubs in your area go thru their web site to get a feel for what kind of group they are. Contact clubs that look interesting and are friendly to new riders. Most clubs are, but some aren't. You want to ride with people who are at your level of riding. Don't be afraid to try more than one club to find the right combo of rides and people you like.
Lastly, you'll find that bicycling isn't good exercise. Yeah, your body is getting an aerobic workout, your burning calories and building muscle mass but it's just so darn much fun that it can't possibly be classified as exercise.

Thanks Tom.

I will go in looking for the Trek, and I will veer away from the lisles of ''stuff'' and just go for the safety basics. My stepmother just told me of a new bike star, a large one, that opened last week. She knows the location but not the name, so I'll find out Saturday what they are about.

Laying the foundation with a decent bike and safety items will be my priority. Like you say, I can get clothes p.r.n. Besides, I have workout clothes that look like cycling clothes and serve the purpose.

If I spot a really good deal, I will also be patient and wait till the following pay day to purchase. I could afford maybe $400 if I wait two more weeks.

Laying the foundation with a decent bike and safety items will be my priority. Like you say, I can get clothes p.r.n. Besides, I have workout clothes that look like cycling clothes and serve the purpose.


Good plan. You really don't need any special gear to start riding, though what gear you do get should be related to your safety and visibility. As you ride, you will get a better idea of what additional 'stuff' you might want or need. Good luck and most of all - have fun!

If you decide to go with a mountain bike, Trek has one for $219 list, have the shop swop out the knobby tires for slicks. These will have a smoother center on the tire for riding on the rode.
I started riding a bicycle again last May and it has really lowered my blood pressure. Good luck and enjoy.

Missy C, you;ve got a lot of good advise. I would echo edp773's advise to get something other than traditional mountainbike tire on your bike. 'Slicks' will work, but even tires with a 'negative tread' will be a HUGE improvement for the type of riding you likely will do.
I've posted 2 pics - 1st is the tradtional MTB tread, 2nd is the negative tread of an Urban/allrounder type tire.

Not to get negative, BUT... Don't be put off by the saddle on whatever bike you get, for the 1st 3 weeks of riding (or thereabouts). If you spend any amount of riding time of 30 minutes or more, a few days a week; your butt will be SORE for the 1st week or 2. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th days will be the worst, and upon mounting the bike, the 1st few minutes, it will be really sore! Stay with it! It will get better quickly! After 3 weeks or so of, say, 3 days a week of riding you will get over the sore period. Just the body and butt adjusting to something new. Happens to EVERYONE

The problem as far as I can see, is all the advice you have been given.

Think about what sort of riding you think you want to do. Analyse the cost, work out the anciliaries like helmet, shorts, gloves, shoes, pedals, etc. And then Find a good LBS. (Local bike shop) Let them know what you want the bike for, how much you want to pay, and then listen to them. In fact try 2 or 3 LBS's and find one that you like, and look as though they will give you the treatment you want.

You do not need a top grade bike initially- One of my friends bought the cheapest Giant Mountain Bike in the shop. Converted to $ he only paid about $150. It was all he could afford but he knew the pitfalls. The frame was good but it was going to wear out parts with his use and lack of riding skills. As things broke- they were replaced under warranty, or upgraded to a suitable quality. 5 years later and he still has the frame, the seatpost, the handlebars and stem and that is about all. Still riding it and it has proved to be a good bike.

We all want a good bike initially and I agree that money talks- you get what you pay for. Point I am trying to make is that you do not have to spend megabucks to get into this sport. Mind you in a years time----

I quit driving a car in `97 after my heart attack. I was worried about getting stranded and needing help because I was having pretty daily episodes with irregular beats, etc. I let my license elapse, and I started working from home and just never went back to retest or get it. I would have to start from scratch with that now.

Anyhow, you can't imagine how much freedom a bike is going to provide for me. Who says you need four wheels to get around? Right?

I am biting at the bit to get out of the house and breathe again! Everytime I do get out, which isn't often, there's a new store, restaurant, and even new roads everywhere I look. I feel so "out of it."

I plan to have "tons of fun" exploring! I think people have grown a little too comfortable with my inability to get around. I won't mention names. I myself got too complacent with the situation. This is going to be the answer to a lot of my problems. Just knowing I can get to the bank or grocery store on my own is going to be an amazing feeling. So amazing that I just opened up "my own" checking account, debit card included! lol. My very first check will be written to xxx Bike Store.

Seriously though, FUN is what I have in mind. Who knows, I may even find work I can cycle to outside the home, and that would take care of that situation too.

As you can see or read, I have a plan. The health benefits are just icing on the proverbial cake!

So, does this mean that a mountain bike is not out of the question with the right tires, slick or negative tread? If slick is as slick as slick sounds, I'd be a little worried when I'm on medians of gravel and/or grass, which will be the case everytime I have to let a car by, especially when it's wet.

What exactly really makes a mountain bike what it is? The gears and tires? Thanks for the pics btw.

Stapfam, I have a lot to think about, but I think that actually getting into the store, seeing and trying and pricing will make it all come together. I don't need or even want the biggest or best, and I just can't afford it right now with the other necessities factored in. I'm going to do the best I can with what I have just to get started, and once I'm a little more seasoned and know what the heck I'm doing, I can always make another purchase.

Being that my husband has mentioned a bike, but is nowhere as involved as I plan to get, if I bought a man's bike to begin with and had it adjusted for me, I could pass it on to him for his "corner store rides" and upgrade myself when my money situation is in a better place. Right now, I just have to get something to get me out of here. Crawl before I walk type situation. I refuse to let money hold me back from getting started.

I'm going to call a local before they close in this area and chat a bit. Someone very near by would know exactly what the roads are like here I would think and could give me an idea what they have available in my range.

I don't "have" to opt for a girl's bike do I? I am 5'8", not a shrimp. I, IMO, have a long torso, long legs and long arms. Seems that limiting myself to bikes that are called "women's" will drastically decrease my choices?!

I don't "have" to opt for a girl's bike do I? I am 5'8", not a shrimp. I, IMO, have a long torso, long legs and long arms. Seems that limiting myself to bikes that are called "women's" will drastically decrease my choices?!

With regard to sizing- A mans bike is the best way to go. Girls bikes look "girlie" even with a girl on it. Most females require a shorter bike, but longer seat stem. Apparantly you are built differently to us men.
I attach a pic of my Mountain bike to show you what I mean as I am short bodied and legged, but ride with full leg extension. It does take the sizing to the limit, but a larger frame was not for me.

You may not realise it yet, but mountain bikes should have smaller frames and if set up like this look weird. This is a very small frame and I am 5'6" tall (OK short if you like). Main thing is to feel comfortable on the bike- Sit on two differnt size frames and you will realise what I mean. If it don't feel comfortable- it ain't for you.

Well, the first call I made, the guy tells me the least expensive he has, and he only has new, is a Trek 250, which would run me about $250. That's with the upright handlebars I want, fitting/adjustments, one-year warranty on parts and service and a lifetime on the frame. He has no leftover models and no used.

So, does this mean that a mountain bike is not out of the question with the right tires, slick or negative tread? If slick is as slick as slick sounds, I'd be a little worried when I'm on medians of gravel and/or grass, which will be the case everytime I have to let a car by, especially when it's wet.

Nope - slicks should work fine in what you describe.

This next guy I spoke with was patient, helpful and willing to email me information. He was involved in the 84 Olympics and writes for one of the cycling magazines. He only carries the expensive road bikes, but they do enough business fixing bikes that they don't have to really sell bikes.

He told me that the Jamis and Treks are made in the same factory in Taipei, and that they are really overrated IHO. He claims that a Schwinn hybrid from Target or Sports Authority would do just as well. Their shop will assemble and fit the bike if need be, and they service it for a year. That's about sixty five bucks.

He said that they quit carrying bikes like Trek and Jamis, etc., because with all the overruns and close-out pricing online, they couldn't compete.

Isn't a Schwinn what Ken rode on his long tour trips? What about a Schwinn?

Missy-I suspect you've already seen this info as you seem to be very resourceful. Here are the bike shops closest to you. I didn't see any in the N Charleston area but there are several in Charleston.

I'm probably not the best one to try and help answer the question on Schwinn versus other models. If you find that cycling is something you really enjoy and want to do a lot more of, I would suspect you'd eventually wind up getting another bike anyway.

So, probably the key thing is getting a bike that is safe, and does what you need for it to do for now. I would guess there are differences in workmanship and especially with the components that go on the different bikes-components being gears, shifters, brakes, etc. Without knowing the models for those it's very hard for me to compare the different bikes.


Bicycle Shoppe
280 Meeting St.
Charleston
SC
29401

Bike the Bridge Rentals
360 Concord St., Ste 108
Charleston
SC
29401

Bobby's Bicycle Shop
1286 Remount Rd.
Charleston
SC
29406

Charleston Bicycle Company
1319 Savannah Hwy
Charleston
SC
29407

Mike's Bikes
808 Folly Road
Charleston
SC
29412

jppe

Thank you very much. I did go through the Yellow pages yesterday and called a few places. The Remount Rd. store's number had been disconnected. That would have been one of the closer places. I'll look up these that you supplied today. Thanks.

You are right, I doubt that this first bike will be my last! I think once I get a starter bike, I'll figure out what I really need and want. I have a feeling that my needs will change with time and experience.

... I have a feeling that my needs will change with time and experience.

Right, Missy C!

Our first bikes (my wife and me) were completely different to those, which we bought later. They were ok at that time, but our intentions had changed after some years of riding. It comes with experience, as you said.
marmotte

What were your first bikes?

What were your first bikes?

Missy, if I might offer a suggestion...

When you want to post a response to someone else in a thread, click on the "reply with quote" button rather than just the "reply" button. It makes it easier for others to know who you are responding to, particularly if there are other posts in-between the post you're responding to, and yours.

Thanks! ;)

What were your first bikes?

We decided to have some climbs during our tours (trails not only along rivers) and to make 4-10 days tours (which means luggage), so we bought bicycles which were too heavy with all that stuff like porters and so on. Maybe mountain bikes are best cycles if you ride not only on paved roads, but here in Europe even the smallest tracs are normally paved.
My bike has a weight of ~11 kg (24 pounds).
Depends on what you're planning (shopping and short distances OR long rides)
marmotte

Missy, if I might offer a suggestion...

When you want to post a response to someone else in a thread, click on the "reply with quote" button rather than just the "reply" button. It makes it easier for others to know who you are responding to, particularly if there are other posts in-between the post you're responding to, and yours.

Thanks! ;)

How's that? Sorry! Didn't mean to confuse anyone.

Well, I made an online purchase that was within my original amount. I may regret it, but I ordered this:

http://www.earthspirits.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=abs&Product_Code=comanche-sportldy

I figure I will take it to a nice guy I spoke with yesterday and let him fit it for me and switch the tires to slicks. I'll get a year's service with the assembly/fitting, and he's been around cycling about 30 years.

Not quite what I started out thinking of, but hey, it's my first bike, and I doubt I'll keep it over a year or so. It's a start.

I did a search here and some people said Jeep was junk, so I don't know. The post I read was on a full suspension and not hard tail.

What, if anything, do you think about it?

How's that? Sorry! Didn't mean to confuse anyone.

Well, I made an online purchase that was within my original amount. I may regret it, but I ordered this:

http://www.earthspirits.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=abs&Product_Code=comanche-sportldy

I figure I will take it to a nice guy I spoke with yesterday and let him fit it for me and switch the tires to slicks. I'll get a year's service with the assembly/fitting, and he's been around cycling about 30 years.

Not quite what I started out thinking of, but hey, it's my first bike, and I doubt I'll keep it over a year or so. It's a start.

I did a search here and some people said Jeep was junk, so I don't know. The post I read was on a full suspension and not hard tail.

What, if anything, do you think about it?

It's an inexpensive steel-framed bike so it's probably pretty heavy, but the main thing is that you will have something to ride until you can upgrade to a lighter, higher quality bike down the road if you choose. Definitely take it down and have someone who knows what they are doing assemble it, fit it to you as much as possible and yes, smooth tires are a good idea. Good luck, let us know how things go. :)

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I figure I will take it to a nice guy I spoke with yesterday and let him fit it for me and switch the tires to slicks. I'll get a year's service with the assembly/fitting, and he's been around cycling about 30 years.

Not quite what I started out thinking of, but hey, it's my first bike, and I doubt I'll keep it over a year or so. It's a start.

I did a search here and some people said Jeep was junk, so I don't know. The post I read was on a full suspension and not hard tail.

What, if anything, do you think about it?[/QUOTE]

In the area you live this should work fine as a starter bike. I agree with ChipC about getting it assembled and set up as best they can for you. You should not have a whole lot invested so you will probably get your money's worth from this one, even if it's just a catalyst for things to come.

Hey, with the liberal interpretation of health benefits maybe you can get reimbursement from a "medical spending account" (if you have one) since you've had heart issues. I think I read where you can even get reimbursement for over the counter meds now. On second thought, maybe all of us can do some of that with the various health issues we've had!!!

Make sure you get (and wear) a good helmet!!

Sorry I'm getting into this late. One thing I didn't catch anyone else saying is that Missy should get the OK from the doc before doing this. Start with small mileages and increase no more than 10% per week. If she were already active, this advice might not matter but for her I think it'd be good to follow.

Regarding bikes, there are several problems with dept store models:
1. they're all mountain bikes - OK if you want a MTB but not if you're looking for a road bike.
2. one-size-fits-all frames. Again, OK if it fits, otherwise... :(
3. sloppy assembly. Anything goes, from tires mounted backwards, loose bearings, improperly-tensioned wheels, brakes that fall off the rim when you use them, - you name it, I've seen it. Typically those places will pay some kid 2 hours' labor per week to come in and slap them together in batches. Quality builds are not only not encouraged, they're impossible.

I had to laugh a little at the $150 price point. Wendy's has a new line of ads touting their $.99 menu, with people using things like 'jr cheeseburgers' as monetary units. Isn't $150 just about equal to a 'Huffy?'

Sorry I'm getting into this late. One thing I didn't catch anyone else saying is that Missy should get the OK from the doc before doing this. Start with small mileages and increase no more than 10% per week. If she were already active, this advice might not matter but for her I think it'd be good to follow.

Regarding bikes, there are several problems with dept store models:
1. they're all mountain bikes - OK if you want a MTB but not if you're looking for a road bike.
2. one-size-fits-all frames. Again, OK if it fits, otherwise... :(
3. sloppy assembly. Anything goes, from tires mounted backwards, loose bearings, improperly-tensioned wheels, brakes that fall off the rim when you use them, - you name it, I've seen it. Typically those places will pay some kid 2 hours' labor per week to come in and slap them together in batches. Quality builds are not only not encouraged, they're impossible.

I had to laugh a little at the $150 price point. Wendy's has a new line of ads touting their $.99 menu, with people using things like 'jr cheeseburgers' as monetary units. Isn't $150 just about equal to a 'Huffy?'

Why would you laugh at someone's budget constraints? Do you have some objection to cheap entry level bikes, besides the fit and assembly issues that have already been addressed, if you indeed read the entire thread? I'd much rather see someone ride around the block a couple of times a week on a cheap Huffy than not ride at all because they couldn't afford a more expensive bike. I'm sure you agree, right?

Edit: and I'd much rather eat that Jr. Cheeseburger for a buck than not eat at all because I don't have 10 bucks for sushi, or whatever the beautiful people are eating nowadays.

Sorry I'm getting into this late. One thing I didn't catch anyone else saying is that Missy should get the OK from the doc before doing this. Start with small mileages and increase no more than 10% per week. If she were already active, this advice might not matter but for her I think it'd be good to follow.

Regarding bikes, there are several problems with dept store models:
1. they're all mountain bikes - OK if you want a MTB but not if you're looking for a road bike.
2. one-size-fits-all frames. Again, OK if it fits, otherwise... :(
3. sloppy assembly. Anything goes, from tires mounted backwards, loose bearings, improperly-tensioned wheels, brakes that fall off the rim when you use them, - you name it, I've seen it. Typically those places will pay some kid 2 hours' labor per week to come in and slap them together in batches. Quality builds are not only not encouraged, they're impossible.

I had to laugh a little at the $150 price point. Wendy's has a new line of ads touting their $.99 menu, with people using things like 'jr cheeseburgers' as monetary units. Isn't $150 just about equal to a 'Huffy?'

Someone did mention a doctor's okay. It was on another thread about exercise.

Everyone here warned me against the Mart stores and explained why, which is why I am taking the bike to a professional at a local bike shop to be assembled/fitted, as I mentioned, and I was not looking for a road bike. They sell Jeeps in the local bike shops in my area. Are you saying it is a department store bike? As mentioned, I wanted a mountain bike and had decided to switch out the tires. Actually, I'm not switching them out, I'm just buying some slicks, because I may decide I need the knobby/nubby tires at some point, and when I resell it, I want to have the original tires.

As for ridiculing my budget, that was kind of rude! :rolleyes: I still have to pay $65 for assembly and buy slicks, lights, helmet, etc. To me right now, that's a lot of money. I paid $25 to upgrade here also. Besides, I'm riding to the store and local bike trails, I'm not touring to France! I may ride to Wendy's too, but I don't care for cheeseburgers, maybe a salad, and .99 cents is probably what I can afford after I buy my bike. :eek:

Anyhow, it might not be good enough for you, but it serves the purpose for me. I kind of expected to hear criticism of the bike choice. What I didn't expect was to be laughed at because I'm not rich. :(

Nevertheless, I'll enjoy my new bike just the same. Enjoy whatever you are tooling around on too. I suspect it is elite and puts mine to shame, but my heart will be happy with any choice I make. ;)

As for ridiculing my budget, that was kind of rude! :rolleyes: I still have to pay $65 for assembly and buy slicks, lights, helmet, etc. To me right now, that's a lot of money. I paid $25 to upgrade here also. Besides, I'm riding to the store and local bike trails, I'm not touring to France! I may ride to Wendy's too, but I don't care for cheeseburgers, maybe a salad, and .99 cents is probably what I can afford after I buy my bike. :eek:

Anyhow, it might not be good enough for you, but it serves the purpose for me. I kind of expected to hear criticism of the bike choice. What I didn't expect was to be laughed at because I'm not rich. :(

Nevertheless, I'll enjoy my new bike just the same. Enjoy whatever you are tooling around on too. I suspect it is elite and puts mine to shame, but my heart will be happy with any choice I make. ;)

Welcome to the real aspect of biking
Most of us here have been into cycling for a number of years, but for a starter bike-- This is fine. In fact compared to the neighbours bikes that I maintain, this is pretty good.

One of my neighbours actually bought one of the cheap "Wallmart" type of bikes and it is Heavy- Is not really set up for him, doesn't have any of the trick bits on it that most of us would like to see on a bike, but he doesn't have any problems with the bike at all. He is slowewr than me on the occasional rides we go on, but then I am a lot fitter than him. I won't be for much longer though because he is out with his kids most days, and I only manage weekends and one ride in the week.

You have enough sense to stay within your budget, have enough sense to realise that this is a new hobby and may not be what you want, and I don't expect to see you on century rides until 2007. What I do hope you will do is keep riding. Don't go too far at first- That saddle is going to cause you problems. 2 to 3 miles on a flat area will be quite enough, but you have to find a cafe with pies. (Just to remind you to read other postings on this forum)

Well done, but one thing no-one has mentioned yet. Either don't get off the bike on your rides- or get a sensible Bike lock. These things walk very quickly when they are new.

Well done again, and dont feel you have made a mistake in getting a cheap bike- Some of us are riding less expensive bikes than you, that are probably not as good either.

Yes I read the thread. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was ridiculing the budget. It's just that $150, to me, is equal to a monetary unit called a 'Huffy.' And sure enough, the first several posts referred to dept store bikes, aka Huffies. Because of hearing the Wendy's ad yesterday, my next reaction was to picture an actor in a bike shop asking the sales person to, "show me your 150-Jr Cheesburger bikes." Maybe it's just my warped sense of humor...

I actually have a better opinion of dept store bikes than some posters on these forums - you'll notice I didn't bring up any of the often-used, and unfair IHMO, epitaths relating to reliability. Assuming the frame fits you, then spending $60 for professional setup should give you a good starter bike.

You talk of having to pull over to let cars by. That tells me you should invest in a book on vehicular cycling.

Missy,
To coin a new phrase.....its not about the bike! Riding is what goes on in your heart (both kinds of "heart") and what goes on in your head. What sits under your behind, in the beginning, is not so important as long as it fits and it works. Ask DeeGee about the initial joy and exuberance of just being out there...wind in ears...and feeling free under your own power. Some of us, as we develop as riders, get a refined taste that sometimes requires better and better equipment to maintain or regain that exuberance. That's called "OCP" (stick around, you'll learn what that means) and is harmless to all but our bank accounts....and quite beneficial to bike manufacturers annual sales reports!

Gear may become important as you develop your skills, knowledge, style, appreciation, and sense of need. Given the circumstances you've described about yourself, including a supportive bike shop, you're off and happily rolling (make that pedaling).....and that's what is really important for now. Keep us posted...really enjoying your enthusiasm!
** If its in the budget, get some gloves, too...in case you come off your Jeep. Doesn't happen often, but.......

Thanks everyone. I've appreciated the feedback, good, bad and ugly.

I'll hop in and say "hi" down the road once I'm on the road and let you know how my "cheap Jeep" is doing. lol

I do plan to get gloves, got them ordered already actually, as well as a helmet, lights and a mirror. I also plan to read all I can about riding in traffic. Seems to me though that it comes down to respecting motorists, obeying the rules of the road and don't take anything for granted. Then, you hope that motorists will do the same, but never assume anything.

I figure I'll take a couple dives before it's all said and done. I just read about a girl who took a dive when she got hooked on her buddies tire and ended up with 15 stiches to the face and permanent scars. She was on a high-end bike, so my guess is it happens to everyone no matter what you ride. I am pretty coordinated for the most part. I was a gymnist in high school, so I guess I'll say "I used to be." We'll see.