Foo - Questions about DVD Recorder

Ok, so I was wondering about the DVD recorders because I was about to buy one. Before I do, I'm just wondering how you can record a DVD onto a black DVD. So for instance, if I want to record my Ab Fab episodes I have onto another blank DVD, do I have to get another DVD player and hook it to the DVD recorder? Or is there another easier way to do it?

Koffee

there are some dvd recorders that have built in hard drives, so they can store all the data from one dvd, then burn to another. im not sure how the lower end ones work though

Ok, so I was wondering about the DVD recorders because I was about to buy one. Before I do, I'm just wondering how you can record a DVD onto a black DVD. So for instance, if I want to record my Ab Fab episodes I have onto another blank DVD, do I have to get another DVD player and hook it to the DVD recorder? Or is there another easier way to do it?

Koffee

You don't need to use only black dvd's, white ones work too. :p
Anyway... is this a computer DVD recorder or a home unit that you hook up to the TV?

The computer ones work like standard cd recorders, it copies the dvd to the hard drive then you put a blank one in.
The console units, cheaper ones are record only, they dont have a drive inside to store information. More expensive ones have a hard drive inside. So usually you'll have to hook another player up to it but you can only copy non-copyprotected information, otherwise it looks like you're watching scrambled porno.

Hmmmmm... got it. So recording DVD just isn't that easy huh?

The one I was looking at was for my television. What's the point of having a DVD recorder if you can't record movies?

Koffee

Ok, so I was wondering about the DVD recorders because I was about to buy one. Before I do, I'm just wondering how you can record a DVD onto a black DVD. So for instance, if I want to record my Ab Fab episodes I have onto another blank DVD, do I have to get another DVD player and hook it to the DVD recorder? Or is there another easier way to do it?

Koffee

hey Koffee-long time listener first time caller--

Do you have a dvd burner in your computer?

Nope. No dvd burner in the computer. Would it be easier to record dvds if I did it on a computer?

Koffee

I dunno but the MPAA frowns upon trying to copy DVD rentals from blockbuster or copying your friend's store bought DVD's.
A lot of people use dvd recorders to put home movies onto dvd or transfer old video tapes onto dvd.



Hmmmmm... got it. So recording DVD just isn't that easy huh?

The one I was looking at was for my television. What's the point of having a DVD recorder if you can't record movies?

Koffee

Ok, got it. I'll just use it for my tivo stuff and not worry about copying the dvd's. Thanks!

Koffee

Hmmmmm... got it. So recording DVD just isn't that easy huh?

The one I was looking at was for my television. What's the point of having a DVD recorder if you can't record movies?Yeah, most console-type DVD recorders can record from VCR tapes, or TV-broadcasts, just not from DVD straight to DVD. They've got programming that prevents that kind of stuff.

However, with a PC, you can rip the DVD to the hard-drive, edit, delete extras like foreign soundtracks, change menus, etc. Then burn back to a blank. I usually squeeze 3-4 movies onto 1 DVD and make a custom menu.

So I'm better off getting a DVD burner for my computer then? I really would like to expand my movie library.

Koffee

And cheaper too. You can get a DVD-writer for about $50. Install it on the same cable as your existing CD-ROM (DVD as master, CD as slave, leave HD on its own cable). Here's a good guide to DVD writing procedures: VideoHelp.com - Guide, How To, Tutorials (http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?howtoselect=6#6).

Some procedures on how to squeeze multiple movies onto one DVD. I usually put 4 per side or 8 total on a double-sided DVD:

How to make a mixed DVD (http://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/198813.php)
How to add multiple movies / titles to one DVD using DVD Shrink (http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/46/59)
How to add multiple movies / titles to one DVD using Nero Recode 2 (http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/44/59/)
How to add multiple movies / titles to one DVD using DVD2One (http://www.dvd-guides.com/content/view/29/59/)

In addition to what DannoXYZ said, you might also want to investigate external DVD Recorders that have Firewire/IEEE 1394 and/or USB interfaces. This can make for a little easier installation at the cost of well... cost. They will run you somewhere around $120 - $150. Another thing is I remember you saying you had a laptop. If that's the case and you want the burner to work in the laptop then you might be able to replace the current optical drive with a DVD Recorder unit made for that laptop but you'd need to check with the laptop manufacturer for the correct part number.

Not that I'm advocating it.... but...

Look for a program called DVDShrink. It'll take that blockbuster DVD rental and compress it down so that it'll fit on a blank DVD on your computer, save it as a DVD image file, then use whatever DVD burning software that comes with your computer's DVD recorder to write a copy of the DVD that you can view on tv...

Not that I'm advocating it.... but...

Look for a program called DVDShrink. It'll take that blockbuster DVD rental and compress it down so that it'll fit on a blank DVD on your computer, save it as a DVD image file, then use whatever DVD burning software that comes with your computer's DVD recorder to write a copy of the DVD that you can view on tv...


LalalalalalalalaI'm not listeninglalalalalalalala... :D

If you don't hear it it's not illegal... if you don't hear it it's not illegal......lalalalala...

I'm hysterically blind and I didn't see anything written, but if I did, I'd say thanks! :D

Koffee

So I'm better off getting a DVD burner for my computer then? I really would like to expand my movie library.

Koffee


Yes--what Danno, Khoun and Slvoid said. Just don't set up shop next to the one of those "follow this card, tell me where it is, and you win" guys, and you should be alright. Are they still doing that btw?

If you get one make sure to check the "system requirements" of the burner to be sure your computer will drive it. Specifically check compatibility of your processor and amount of RAM you have with those of the burner.

I don't think DVD shrink alone will work. You will also need a dercryptor program to remove piracy protection to "back up" your DVD's. It is illegal to make copies of DVD's you don't own. THere is a free program called DVD decryptor that might still be available although somebody bought the rights to it so not sure anymore.


DVD shrink will take your 7g movie from the dual layer disc and shrink it down to 4.3 to fit on standard DVD.

No recording DVD's is not hard at all. That is why most college campuses are swimming in illegally copied DVD's. It is just a matter of making a couple clicks. This forum (http://forum.digital-digest.com/) is to the digital video world what BF is to the cycling world. It is very informative.

I'm hysterically blind and I didn't see anything written, but if I did, I'd say thanks! :D

Koffee

I have the NEC ND-3550A purchased from Newegg for about $40 - Hacked Firmware is available for it which will remove RipLock and also make it Region Free. A new DVD writer will only read at 2x until the riplock is disabled. The Region free will allow you to Back Up and view foreign DVDs

The NEC ND-3350A is highly regarded in the DVD Back Up environment.

If you decide to get the NEC ND-3550A let me know and I will send you links to Hacked Firmware sites; such as Liggy & Dees - It's legal to make a DVD Back Up for personal use as is the hacked firmware.

To "Back Up" a movie I use DVDFabDecrypter (free) to rip the DVD and Nero Recode to Burn the image - Nero Recode will also shrink the image onto a single layer DVD if you do not choose to use Dual Layer media(DVD)

To reference various methods, search for DVD Back Up methods; but everything you need to know is on the site below.

Read Here:
http://www.videohelp.com/

Actually DVD shrink does it all, it says so right on their homepage.

DVD Shrink is software to backup DVD discs. You can use this software in conjunction with DVD burning software of your choice, to make a backup copy of any DVD video disc.

DVD Shrink will also burn your backup DVD, if you have installed the latest version of Nero. You can download a demo version of Nero here. If you already possess alternative burning software and prefer to stick with it, then you can still use DVD Shrink. The output from DVD Shrink can be saved as files on your hard drive, which you can then burn with software of your choice.

Actually DVD shrink does it all, it says so right on their homepage.

Wrong! As DVD Shrink does a poor job of Decrypting.

DVDDecrypter is out of the business and DVDFabDecrypter has taken over.

Also, The author of DVD Shrink is now working for Nero

No, I'm pretty sure it does say that on their home page.
Here, I'll quote it again in case you missed it.

DVD Shrink is software to backup DVD discs. You can use this software in conjunction with DVD burning software of your choice, to make a backup copy of any DVD video disc.

DVD Shrink will also burn your backup DVD, if you have installed the latest version of Nero. You can download a demo version of Nero here. If you already possess alternative burning software and prefer to stick with it, then you can still use DVD Shrink. The output from DVD Shrink can be saved as files on your hard drive, which you can then burn with software of your choice.


Wrong! As DVD Shrink does a poor job of Decrypting.

DVDDecrypter is out of the business and DVDFabDecrypter has taken over.

Also, The author of DVD Shrink is now working for Nero

dvddecrypter, imageburn,folder2iso

then get mplayer/mencoder for playing and re-encoding, grab guiffmpeg while your at it, grab dvdstyler for authoring dvd's

all this stuff is free http://www.videohelp.com/tools

all the above will give you the ability to do just about anything with dvd's and general video decoding/encoding

No, I'm pretty sure it does say that on their home page.
Here, I'll quote it again in case you missed it.

To put it Bluntly, You do not know of what you speak.

As DVD Shrink is not updated anymore because the original author of it is now working for Nero with their product "Nero Recode"

DVDDecrypter is also not updated anymore.

However another product "DVDFabDecrypter" is updated regularly and does a great job. Sony movies can be a PITA requiring some extra steps. "VobBalnker" is another important tool.

As new copy protection schemes are developed on a regular basis so must the decrypter be updated.

DVDFabDecrypter seems to answer the challenge whenever there is a new copy protection scheme.

Read and Learn Here:
http://www.videohelp.com/

Panasonic makes some high quality DVD recorders that sell at Circuit City for under $200. They have built-in TV circuits, so just connect to the TV, tune to your favorite show, and record. Blank DVD disks from "name brand" companies such as Memorex go "on sale" for as little as $8 for 30 disks. ("Brand X" and store brand blank DVD's sometimes are not reliable).

In the "one hour" mode, the DVD's looks just as sharp as the original program. In the "two hour" mode, you can see a tiny bit of digital "noise" in the picture if you have a sharp TV and sharp eyes...but the four hour mode, six hour mode, eight hour mode...they must be for use with security camera's, because they are waay too fuzzy to enjoy re-watching your favorite shows.

If you copy a TV show, you can copy that DVD by connecting any DVD player to your DVD recorder. In the "one hour" mode, you get acceptable copies. In longer modes, the copies are not as sharp as the original.

Of course, you can NOT copy DVD's you rent from Blockbuster. Special security encoding blocks the record function on the DVD recorder.

By the way, the BEST use of the Panasonic DVD recorders is for playing rental DVD's. They have advanced playback designs that provide a much more natural looking picture and natural looking colors than the typical $59 DVD players that many folks use. The playback function alone is well worth spending the $200.

Unlike most brands, Panasonic provides a full 12 months labor warranty. The industry standard is just ninety days. So, there is no need to pay extra for the store's extended warranty.

I'm going to put it bluntly too. It says so right on the home page. Here, let me link it to you.
http://www.dvdshrink.org/what.html
Go there and you'll see what I quoted above. It's right there. Would you like me to quote it again?


To put it Bluntly, You do not know of what you speak.

I'm going to put it bluntly too. It says so right on the home page. Here, let me link it to you.
http://www.dvdshrink.org/what.html
Go there and you'll see what I quoted above. It's right there. Would you like me to quote it again?

Give up - Anyone who knows anything about DVD Back Ups realizes that you are a ignorant fool as DVD Shrink doesn't work half the time and it isn't updated or supported anymore as the author now works for Nero Recode.

lego of your ego

I'm going to put it bluntly too. It says so right on the home page. Here, let me link it to you.
http://www.dvdshrink.org/what.html
Go there and you'll see what I quoted above. It's right there. Would you like me to quote it again?


I'll put it bluntly. You can't always believe what you read. You'd think you would have been around here long enough to know that by now. :rolleyes:


This method involves using DVD Shrink's built-in DVD decryption engine. The problem with using the built-in decrypter, as opposed to an external DVD ripper like DVD Decrypter, is that DVD Shrink's decrypter does not support all the necessary DVD ripping features, such as Macrovision/RCE ripping. It will also access your DVD-ROM drive during the entire shrinking process, which may reduce the lifetime of your DVD laser (or at least make your DVD-ROM drive pretty hot). Using DVD Shrink's built-in decrypter will mean less hard-disk space is required (since you won't need to copy the entire DVD to your hard-drive first). If you prefer to use an external DVD ripper, please refer to this method.

The shrinking process will reduce the quality of the movie (that's where the file size reduction comes from). If you want to keep the original quality of the DVD, then you can use this method to split your 9.4 GB DVD onto 2 4.7 GB DVD recordables.

While quality has been reduced, the content of the DVD (eg. subtitles, extras) can be left untouched. It is also possible to select which part of the DVD gets "shrunk" and which remains the same (eg. shrink the extras, but keep the movie untouched (http://www.dvdr-digest.com/articles/23_7.html)).

Give up - Anyone who knows anything about DVD Back Ups realizes that you are a ignorant fool as DVD Shrink doesn't work half the time and it isn't updated or supported anymore as the author now works for Nero Recode.

lego of your ego

Wow you have a huge ego because you have no life and you rip DVD's all day in your room so you can call people ignorant and **** OOooo...
Here, lemme show you the website that the other guy sent.
http://www.dvdr-digest.com/articles/23_7.html

The first half looks exactly like a guide using DVD shrink to copy a DVD. And the second half looks like a guide to wait... wait... ah ha.. use ANOTHER piece of software to copy DVD's. Yes thats right, both pieces of software will actually do the entire process start to finish. What's that? YOUR software can do more formats? Wait wait... what's that? You can't copy AACS with 128bit AES encryption either? Aww...

What other courageous manly acts of name calling are you going to engage in now? Wait, what's that? I can't read? It's actually a guide for NOT copying DVD's? Ok I see it now.

Check this out, I can eat with chopsticks AND a fork... TWO.. *2* seemingly different utensils serving the same purpose. But you've totally managed to deflate my ego because you know how to use TWO dvd copying programs. *Clap clap* What other things will you amaze us with now? Do you know how to shut down your computer using THREE different methods?

Just to elaborate a little bit more. Different recorders also have different record modes.
Mine has 1x, 2x, 2.5x, 4x, 5x, 6x, and 8x. Some only have 2, 4, and 6, etc.
The longer the recording time on the dvd, the crappier your quality.
2x is first rate and I can't really notice anything that particularly bothers me if I'm watching on a regular sony 27" tv. On a HDTV I'd notice.
2.5x is like, 3 hrs. I generally end up using this to copy movies since most movies are over 2 hours and unlike video tapes that say 2 hours but actually let you record 2:10 or something, on a DVD, 2x doesn't mean 2 hours, it means 1:56 on the dot on my recorder, so I always end up using 2.5. Quality's not that much different. Some recorders don't have this and you end up being hosed when you have to revert to 4x to record a 2 hr movie.
4x starts resembling medium VHS quality.
6x is poor VHS quality.
8x is pretty crappy but if it's stuff you don't care about, that's fine.
If your TV is like 19" or below, then 8x actually doesn't look all that bad if there isn't a lot of moving stuff in the picture.

Also of interest is some players allow you to chase a show while you're recording. So say you get home at 9pm but your 2 hour movie started at 8pm. While it's recording, you can "chase" back to the beginning of the movie and watch while it's recording it in real time and then "chase" forward as you watch to avoid the commercials, etc.

BTW, you can find DVD writing computer internal drives for as cheap as 50 bucks (pretty good deal) if you decide to use that instead of a shelf unit that connects to your tv.

Wow! So much passion for ripping DVD's! I can't hardly wait until I get mine. :D

Thanks to both of you guys... I may just end up getting both programs and giving one to my brother and keeping the other for myself.

Peace in the middle east!

Koffee

Wow! So much passion for ripping DVD's! I can't hardly wait until I get mine. :D

Thanks to both of you guys... I may just end up getting both programs and giving one to my brother and keeping the other for myself.

Peace in the middle east!

Koffee

Yeah, stick it to the man by bootlegging your own DVD's!
But sir, you are the man, so aren't you sticking it to yourself?
Maybe...

Yeah, I just saw that commercial on television too. :D

But I prefer the "School of Rock" explanation when he tells the judges that the kids have "stickittotheman...itis". I had to laugh. Classic!

Koffee

Wow! So much passion for ripping DVD's! I can't hardly wait until I get mine. :D

Thanks to both of you guys... I may just end up getting both programs and giving one to my brother and keeping the other for myself.

Peace in the middle east!

Koffee

I guess bicycles, dvds and music are the only passions in my life ;)

I do all my DVD Backups on the computer; but the home DVD player is also important to me as it must support multiple formats.

I recently purchased a Pioneer DVD-588A-S; which I am delighted about as it has pretty good DVD video player and also plays DVD Audio and Super Audio CD (SACD) as I am also passionate about music and backing up music CDs.

Passionate about music huh... I bet you're one of these people who thinks you can get good sound out of a bose system...

*Runs for cover*

Passionate about music huh... I bet you're one of these people who thinks you can get good sound out of a bose system...

*Runs for cover*

No Highs, No Lows, must be BOSE ;)

The legal aspect has been discussed before here and I'm pretty sure backing up DVD's is illegal, according to the DMCA, because they(commercial DVD's) have to be decrypted before they can be copied. The copying part is legal, but the decrypting part is not. Catch-22. I'm not saying not to do it-that's up to you. Just keep an eye out for the Feds. Feel free to correct me...I may be misremembering that part of the DMCA.




No Highs, No Lows, must be BOSE ;)
Yeah, that's the thing, huh? I love my Bose, and it serves me well for my uses, but I think they basically make stuff for people who don't want to fine tune their musical selections themselves...or something like that.

The legal aspect has been discussed before here and I'm pretty sure backing up DVD's is illegal, according to the DMCA, because they(commercial DVD's) have to be decrypted before they can be copied. The copying part is legal, but the decrypting part is not. Catch-22. I'm not saying not to do it-that's up to you. Just keep an eye out for the Feds. Feel free to correct me...I may be misremembering that part of the DMCA.




Yeah, that's the thing, huh? I love my Bose, and it serves me well for my uses, but I think they basically make stuff for people who don't want to fine tune their musical selections themselves...or something like that.

It's here (http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf) if you give a crap. It's called the DMCA. (digital media copyright act) I'm to lazy to break it down for ya, but it basically says that the wealthy people producing DVD's do not want poorer people making copies of their stuff unless they are a library.

A pretty simple litmus test on any of this copyright stuff is to try and figure out who the judge is more likely to be having dinner with at the country club on Friday night? Joe Consumer or the President of some movie studio.

It's here (http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf) if you give a crap. It's called the DMCA. (digital media copyright act) I'm to lazy to break it down for ya, but it basically says that the wealthy people producing DVD's do not want poorer people making copies of their stuff unless they are a library.

A pretty simple litmus test on any of this copyright stuff is to try and figure out who the judge is more likely to be having dinner with at the country club on Friday night? Joe Consumer or the President of some movie studio.
I only give a crap from an academic standpoint. Plus, I don't make copies of DVD's...yet. I finally bought a stack of DVD-R's for my DVD burner a couple weeks ago. I haven't opened 'em yet, but it's only a matter of time, you MPAA losers!

I have to disagree with your aprisal of the DMCA, however. Well, I totally agree with your point, but they're not stupid enough to actually write it that way. It's much more gently worded than that...and much more confusing....

Seems to me that it's still a catch-22 after reading over it again. You can't circumvent encryption to access material, but you can circumvent encryption to copy it. Just another example of how well legislation in a representative democracy really works, I guess. It's not like there's anything more important goin' on or anything, guys.:rolleyes:

Anyway, good luck, Koffee! Hope you find a nice burner. I don't feel that I watch enough movies to justify copying them, but I am thinking of getting one of those combination VHS-DVD burners for old family videos and whatnot.

DVDs explained.....bt Catatonic, the informational freakshow.

OK, we all know what DVDs can and do for us, so let's break down how they work. I will in NO way explain how to circumvent anything, nor will respond to PMs regarding this....if you want to circumvent these measures, google will show you the way. I figured that giving people an understanding behind how they work might make things a bit easier to understand. I hate the idea of "black box" technology...for me, I have to know how things work...drives me nuts to not know.


1) copyright flag.

DVDs as a first mode of protection have a copyright flag. This little section of the disc is a simple true/false value that CD cpying programs and CD copying hardware (like Koffee's set-top box) look up to determine whether it should copy this or not. Note that many hardware and software copiers do ignore this flag. The MPAA knew this would happen, so there are other protections in place as well.

2) region coding

WHile it's not an actual copy protection, it can cause problems for some people...DVDs are often designed to be only used in DVD players that were made for a very specific region of the planet. If you are in the USA/Canada, you are probably Region 1. So if you get hold of a Region 2 DVD (I think that's Japan), it won't work on your US spec DVD player. As a side note for video freaks, NTSC/PAL encoding is not a concern, since all DVDs are PAL encoded by default, and the NTSC DVD players will do the conversion on it's own....including the Japan variant af NTSC.

3) CSS

CSS - Content Scrambling System, is the single most controversial point of protection...it IS an encryption system. All the movie data on a DVD is encrypted. This is why even if you have the right codec for windows, you still cannot play a DVD using windows media player unless you installed another DVD player software...it needs that program to do the de-scrambling. CSS is the one protection technique that has resulted in more lawsuits and subpoenas than possibly any other piece of software in existance....mostly from the MPAA suing those who offerd methods or provided links to circumventing this protection method.

4) Macrovision

Yes, they still exist...mostly to deal with the "analog loophole"...so people can't output the DVD through component, Svideo, or RF outputs and record it on a video recorder.


Pretty much that is everything that is there to annoy those who wish to make a backup copy of their DVDs

Pretty much my take on the whole thing is if you are worried about kids damaging the DVDs...get a giant DVD changer (SOny makes a 200 disc one I think), and get a lock for the audio rack....let the kids break the remote control instead :)

No Highs, No Lows, must be BOSE ;)


Ahh...I won't ever use Bose myself......but i do see their strong point:

A small, easy to set-up, and easy to use surround sound system.

IMO, one would be better off with a compact DVD player, a compact surround receiver, and one of the $500-700 Home theater speaker sets....but that means more things to hookup to each other, and some other woes that come with better speakers such as placement demands...Bose sattleites lack bass entirely, so they can be placed anywhere and still sound about the same...downside, the bass module also does midbass, so it's best to place it near the TV.

I also think the design concepts used in their standard loudspeakers are interesting...I just think they need to start using better drivers in those loudspeakers....if they were to bring the driver technology up to date, and tweak their designs accordingly, I bet they could make a stellar product.

...oh, and they need to offer just a DVD/preamp that looks just like the lifestyle consoles....they would sell like hotcakes to those who want to use their own amplifiers and speakers instead.

You can actually get a $300 5 speaker DVD system and it'll sound pretty much the same as a $1300 bose 3-2-1 system.
Behind every bose is a cheap paper speaker that rivals that of my $40 sony radio and about 10 cents worth of toilet paper tube sound ducting.

BTW, this is one of about 100 different ways to descramble CSS and according to us courts, it's perfectly legal to post the actual code in a way that can not be directly used. Of course, I highly advise against compiling it or watching a movie decode with it...

#define m(i)(x[i]^s[i+84])<<
unsigned char x[5],y,s[2048];main(n){for(read(0,x,5);read(0,s,n=2048);write(1,s
,n))if(s[y=s[13]%8+20]/16%4==1){int i=m(1)17^256+m(0)8,k=m(2)0,j=m(4)17^m(3)9^k
*2-k%8^8,a=0,c=26;for(s[y]-=16;--c;j*=2)a=a*2^i&1,i=i/2^j&1<<24;for(j=127;++j<n
;c=c>y)c+=y=i^i/8^i>>4^i>>12,i=i>>8^y<<17,a^=a>>14,y=a^a*8^a<<6,a=a>>8^y<<9,k=s
[j],k="7Wo~'G_\216"[k&7]+2^"cr3sfw6v;*k+>/n."[k>>4]*2^k*257/8,s[j]=k^(k&k*2&34)
*6^c+~y;****

Learn more here: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/DeCSS/Gallery/

What's really bizarre is that you don't even have to decode CSS to copy a DVD, just to play it... If you make a bit-for-bit clone of a DVD, it'll carry over all the data, CSS-encrypted or not, it doesn't matter, you've got an identical copy.

What's really bizarre is that you don't even have to decode CSS to copy a DVD, just to play it... If you make a bit-for-bit clone of a DVD, it'll carry over all the data, CSS-encrypted or not, it doesn't matter, you've got an identical copy.
Maybe that's how you're supposed to make a copy and not violate the DMCA. Not that I really care, just sayin'....

What's really bizarre is that you don't even have to decode CSS to copy a DVD, just to play it... If you make a bit-for-bit clone of a DVD, it'll carry over all the data, CSS-encrypted or not, it doesn't matter, you've got an identical copy.

That's true... sometimes the simpliest solution is the best.
But how on earth are we supposed to get the encrypted information from sectors that aren't manufactured in DVD blanks available to consumers and DVD recorders that can't write to those locations?