# Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Stem Angle Match problem

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46x17
01-12-06, 05:17 PM
I have a 120mm stem at 0 degree with riser bars. The rise is 45 mm.
What angle stem would I need to get to achieve the same bar height with flat bars?
The stem can also be a bit longer up to 130mm.

Thanks!

genericbikedude
01-12-06, 05:21 PM
First, this is basic trigonometry. You need the pytagorean theorum and the sine/cosine/tangent formulas. Wikipedia will help you.

Second, and not to snark, why not just use flat bars?

46x17
01-12-06, 05:23 PM
Second, and not to snark, why not just use flat bars?

Because the current height is very comfy. So to keep comfy height I will need a different stem.

Thanks for the tip.

genericbikedude
01-12-06, 05:27 PM
oh, I get it. i thought you were trying to go from flats to a riser/deep drop combo. that would be stupid.

harryhood
01-12-06, 05:30 PM
this was posted before somewhere, but couldn't find the exact post.

does this help?
http://www.habcycles.com/stemfit.jpg

46x17
01-12-06, 05:39 PM
I figured it out. I need approx. an additional 20 deg rise.

46x17
01-12-06, 05:40 PM
Thanks for all your help!

harryhood
01-12-06, 05:42 PM
I figured it out. I need approx. an additional 20 deg rise.

with a 130mm extension??? that's what i'm getting after studying that chart.

46x17
01-12-06, 05:55 PM
Yes. The chart rules btw!

baxtefer
01-12-06, 06:03 PM
not to pick nits, but the "stack height" of your new stem is going to affect rise as well.

46x17
01-12-06, 06:11 PM
What is stack height?

You talking about spacer or the stem steertube clamp part?

Regardless, if i ever go flat I will use the same model stem (with different angle) and no spacers anyway. I just put on some flat bars and flipped the current stem. To simulate a potential new setup. Made over the bar skids suck. So risers are staying until I get over the poser tricks.

baxtefer
01-12-06, 06:12 PM
stem steertube clamp bit. some are longer than others.
shouldn't matter thaaaaaat much though.

46x17
01-12-06, 06:15 PM
stem steertube clamp bit. some are longer than others.

That is true.

01-12-06, 06:26 PM
Is this new flat bar for your bike?

BostonFixed
01-12-06, 06:32 PM
Quill stems rock.

genericbikedude
01-12-06, 06:40 PM
Quill stems rock.

no they dont.

46x17
01-12-06, 07:10 PM
Is this new flat bar for your bike?

I desired one for about an hour today for my bike.

Then I managed to try one out (friends bar) and decided that my risers are staying.

redcurrycelt
01-12-06, 07:10 PM
"Quill stems rock"

I'm starting to feel that way too.. I dig the look of forged quill stems more than the big blobby funky threadless ones, for sure, especially with 1-1/8" steerers..

Obviously the connection is not as solid with quills (nor as stiff, probably), but there are certainly some functional and aesthetic pluses.

46x17
01-12-06, 07:17 PM
salsa makes/made some very nice threadless stems. They are tigged steel and don't have that ugly fatness that other stems have. I also really like the look of the Thomson Elite stems although those are very beefy.

mrRed
01-12-06, 07:55 PM
I love the look of quill stems, but apparently threadless is really the way to go from a mechanical standpoint.

Judah
01-12-06, 08:27 PM
You back in the city clayton? I'm pissed, it was so nice out and I wanted to ride today but I'm all sick...

01-13-06, 08:29 AM
my risers are staying.

On-One Mary bar right? How you liking them so far? I have been thinking about them myself for a change. Any pics?

shants
01-13-06, 08:56 AM

genericbikedude
01-13-06, 09:03 AM

**** your dumbass 34mm flat wrench

absntr
01-13-06, 09:11 AM
salsa makes/made some very nice threadless stems. They are tigged steel and don't have that ugly fatness that other stems have. I also really like the look of the Thomson Elite stems although those are very beefy.

Salsa does indeed. Super stiff, sleek to match a thinner tube look.

http://dcc.absenter.org/foto/misc/salsa_01.jpg

http://dcc.absenter.org/foto/misc/salsa_03.jpg

shants
01-13-06, 09:19 AM
**** having to install star-fangled nuts and having to **** with the headset adjustment just to change stems. hell, **** having to loosen the stem for minor headset adjustment. **** threadless.

genericbikedude
01-13-06, 09:40 AM
**** taking off your bar tape just to remove your bars. **** the fact that you cannot fix your threaded hs on the road. **** they two huge gawky wrenches you need for what should be simple adjustment with a 5mm allen key. **** trying to find a threaded fork that fits your steer tube. **** helping idiots to retrieve their quill stem wedge when it gets dropped and seized at the bottom of their steer tube.

And most of all, **** this whole argument. Threaded is clearly inferior, and people like it because of bling. What a ****ing stupid thing to argue about.

shants
01-13-06, 09:48 AM
removable face plates aren't unique to threadless. you can easily fix your threaded headset on the road, not that you should have to. you have to cut threadless forks just like you have to cut threaded ones, unless you want 4 inches of spacers above your stem.

indeed, **** this argument. threaded is easily just as functional as threadless. similar enough to justify one's preference of quill stems on the basis of aesthetics. they both work. to each their own, it seems.

46x17
01-13-06, 10:41 AM
**** having to install star-fangled nuts and having to **** with the headset adjustment just to change stems. hell, **** having to loosen the stem for minor headset adjustment. **** threadless.

Do you lack opposing thumbs or was your ex-partner into threadless setups?

na975
01-13-06, 02:49 PM
i have that exact bar f/s,but now that i have seen it mounted on the same frame RUSH i have,i'm keeping it!