didn't Jim Fixx, Dr. Pritikin, and the powerbar inventors all meet their maker prematurely?

Jim Fixx had heart disease well before he became a runner. Prior to that he was essentially a couch potato eating too much saturated fat and, as a result, ended up with numerous clogged arteries. He also refused medical treatment.

Jim Fixx had heart disease well before he became a runner. Prior to that he was essentially a couch potato eating too much saturated fat and, as a result, ended up with numerous clogged arteries. He also refused medical treatment.


eating too much fat along with carbohydrates, you mean.... it's been proven endlessly that sat. fat without high carbs is harmless.

anyway, the point is that one person's medical history is meaningless... Mr. Fixx, Mr. Pritikin, Dr, Atkins, you, me....

eating too much fat along with carbohydrates, you mean.

No, I mean eating too much saturated fat. The overwhelming evidence reveals that the consumption of too much saturated fat contributes to heart disease. Of course, eating too much of anything will contribute to obesity which doesn't help one's heart either. In any event, Jim Fixx already had several heart attacks, ignored the warning signs and eventually died of a heart attack. The notion that he died because he ate too many carbs is incorrect, and typically expoused by the Atkins fanatics.

ah, here we go again. there is no evidence conclusively showing sat. fat has anything to do with heart disease. all we have is 30 odd years of poorly interpreted studies and creative guesswork.

edit: btw, you're right about Fixx, he had a bad family history and ignored his doctors, and ignored his own heart attacks just prior to his death. Just guessing, but I'd bet he followed a high carb diet and that wasnt helping things much either!

Ok. I'm in.
2/13/06-330
2/20/06-325 -5

Boy, have I got a long way to go.

ah, here we go again. there is no evidence conclusively showing sat. fat has anything to do with heart disease.

Sure there is. Just ask any cardiologist who they're giving bypass and angioplasties to. Hint: Its not lifetime runners, cyclists, or vegetarians.

Good luck, just keep at it. I lost 40 lbs last year, and have kept it off well, just riding, and eating low-fat. Don't get discouraged, just keep riding. I was lucky to meet up with some very experienced riders, who have taken me under their wings. I have gone from worrying about dieting and weight, to worrying about keeping up with them.

Last sunday I weighed in at 411 :)

Goodluck man! :)

there is no evidence conclusively showing sat. fat has anything to do with heart disease.
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there is no evidence conclusively showing sat. fat has anything to do with heart disease.

There is also no evidence conclusively proving that hitting yourself in the face with a hammer is painful. All we have is anecdotes and speculation.

I repeat, there simply is no conclusive proof that sat. fat has anything to do with heart disease. period.

come on people!!!!!

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

oh yea, sorry Mike... got carried away...

you can find my follow up on that suggestion that vegetarians are healthier over at:

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?p=2191802#post2191802

Clearly, the authors of the study had an agenda (see the references at the bottom of your post).

Don't know any practicing cardiologists, eh? :p

2/1/06@ 207
2/8/06@204
2/11/06@202
2/19/06@201
2/26/06 200
well i have reached my first goal now im looking for #190 just 10 more to go

01/01/06 282.0
01/08/06 272.4
01/15/06 265.8
01/22/06 264.2
01/29/06 260.4
02/05/06 262.4
02/12/06 259.6
02/19/06 256.6
02/26/06 257.0

weel 223.7 3/10ths.Didn't ride this week either

Weight: 54.25 lbs above target weight
Last Two Weeks: down 3.25 lbs
This year: down 1.25 lbs

This reflects improved eating habits. I was out of town the past couple of weeks, staying with someone who is very good at maintaining a healthy weight. I paid attention, and I'm going to continue the healthy habits.

I actually exercised less there than I do at home, although I did get some aerobic exercise (mostly walking) and I also did a bunch of stretching (which is another good habit I want to keep).

I just found this thread, and I'm in! I started my weight loss last May. Started at 246. This morning I weighed in at 207. I haven't been on any particular diet. Just trying to be smart about what I eat, both selection and portion size. And I exercised a lot. 95% road cylcling, a little jogging, and some stair climbing. I will weigh-in every Sunday. My goal is to get down to 170....

01/01/06 282.0
01/08/06 272.4
01/15/06 265.8
01/22/06 264.2
01/29/06 260.4
02/05/06 262.4
02/12/06 259.6
02/19/06 256.6
02/26/06 257.0
03/05/06 254.6

come onnnnnn 240's.....

2/1/06@ 207
2/8/06@204
2/11/06@202
2/19/06@201
2/26/06 200
3/5/06-200 no loss this week looks like i need to ride harder and eat less

3/5/06 208.5

Great thread - I will start posting my numbers come this sunday.

Seeing 300 on the scale really hit me, I started walking and doing a bit of jogging, though that added some unwanted pain to my knees.
I'm down to around 292 now, I was down to 235 summer 2004 (on Atkins actually).
I loved eating low carb, I really felt a ton of energy, my cholesterol was great, though my downfall was cutting out all food temptation completely, after far too many times eating out and chinese takeout, I was back to my original weight (287) and then some.. (305).

My goal is to get out of my 44" pants, and back into my 36", wear and XL shirt without a problem and to go skydiving by the end of summer (max weight is 240).

I'm not going to cut the carbs like I did in the past, but more power to you for doing it.

You do a low carb diet, and you will always have the weight problem.

...In fact, I'm doing a wellness seminar for the government building I work in today, so this will be my warm up...


Koffee? My Hero? A Government Worker?? Say it ain't so! :)

What has worked for me, and I'm paraphrasing here:

I lose weight, not by good bike rides, but for good bike rides.

Today, I took a hilly two mile walk at lunch with a coworker in tow. Tomorrow, I am going again, with a different coworker. (Hopefully I will have a pedestrian train by the end of the month.) I can't easily ride my bike at lunch, but the walking is easy, and will contribute to little less weight on my next ride. Everything I do has the focus of making the next uphill grind spin a little better.

Weight: 53.50 lbs above target weight
This Week: down 0.75 lbs
This year: down 2.00 lbs

Not too bad -- steady as she goes....

01/01/06 304.0 01/08/06 298.0 01/15/06...

01/01/06 304.0
01/08/06 298.0
01/15/06 292.2
01/22/06 287.0
01/29/06 285.6
02/05/06 283.8
02/12/06 281.8
02/20/06 278.6
03/05/06 276.2

Weight Loss this two week period: 2.4 lbs

hmm... had a two week business trip, and I didn't do horrible damage. I'm a bit worried that I've fallen out of some of my strict habbits (logging all my food daily, etc...). Hopefully now that I'm back home I'll get back in a routine.

Registered: Jul 2004

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2/8/06@204
2/11/06@202
2/19/06@201
2/26/06 200
3/5/06-200
3/12/06-198 just 14 more to go by may 6

01/01/06 282.0
01/08/06 272.4
01/15/06 265.8
01/22/06 264.2
01/29/06 260.4
02/05/06 262.4
02/12/06 259.6
02/19/06 256.6
02/26/06 257.0
03/05/06 254.6
03/12/06 253.0

222.6 slow going,but still losing

01/01/06 304.0
01/08/06 298.0
01/15/06 292.2
01/22/06 287.0
01/29/06 285.6
02/05/06 283.8
02/12/06 281.8
02/20/06 278.6
03/05/06 276.2
03/12/06 274.2

Weight Loss this week: 2 lbs

2 lbs per week is just about my goal. My cardio work is way down since getting back from a 2 week business trip, I need to get back on the bike!

Still waiting on getting the funds together to order my bike next week.. so in the meantime it is light walking/pushups/situps.

I didn't really capture numbers up till now.. but I started at around 305 at the beginning of the year.

03/12/06 - 291

Wow. You guys are really "cooking." Nice jobs. :)

I, on the other hand, gained 2.25 pounds this week. Argh...

Weight: 55.75 lbs above target weight
This Week: up 2.25 lbs
This year: up 0.25 lbs

No mystery. I ate too much and didn't exercise enough. I will do better this week.

01/01/06 304.0
01/08/06 298.0
01/15/06 292.2
01/22/06 287.0
01/29/06 285.6
02/05/06 283.8
02/12/06 281.8
02/20/06 278.6
03/05/06 276.2
03/12/06 274.2
03/27/06 272.6

Down 1.6, I've completely falling off the excercise wagon, and haven't been on my bike 2 weeks, and I've got a 9 day bussiness trip comming up :/ I'm still eating pretty well, but need to get the cardio back in the mix.

2/1/06@ 207
2/8/06@204
2/11/06@202
2/19/06@201
2/26/06 200
3/5/06-200
3/12/06-198
3/19/06-196

2/1/06@ 207
2/8/06@204
2/11/06@202
2/19/06@201
2/26/06 200
3/5/06-200
3/12/06-198
3/19/06-196
3/26/06-195

221.6 not much"pedal time this week

01/01/06 282.0
01/08/06 272.4
01/15/06 265.8
01/22/06 264.2
01/29/06 260.4
02/05/06 262.4
02/12/06 259.6
02/19/06 256.6
02/26/06 257.0
03/05/06 254.6
03/12/06 253.0
03/26/06 259.0 after going on a 5 day bike tour, eating everything and anything before after and during, I have officially fallen off the wagon. I thought for sure that pedaling 400 miles in 5 days would have made it impossible for me to do anything but loose weight, but I was wrong!!! It should not be any surprise, I was eating CRAP the entire time, and eating way to much of it too...

Time to Re focus.


Mike

hey mike, I wouldnt feel too bad, you probably just gained some water weight due to the crap (ie. excess carbs) you were eating. that will fall by the wayside pretty quick after you get back to your low carb regimen. From my own experience with off the wagon excursions, I'd say give it a week or two...

2/1/06@ 207
2/8/06@204
2/11/06@202
2/19/06@201
2/26/06 200
3/5/06-200
3/12/06-198
3/19/06-196
3/26/06-195
4/2/06-195
looks like this last 10#s is going to be hard to loose

01/01/06 282.0
01/08/06 272.4
01/15/06 265.8
01/22/06 264.2
01/29/06 260.4
02/05/06 262.4
02/12/06 259.6
02/19/06 256.6
02/26/06 257.0
03/05/06 254.6
03/12/06 253.0
03/26/06 259.0
04/02/06 252.0 :) thank god! I guess it was just water / whatever weight from the tour I went on... once again there is hope!

30 lbs down... 53 to go!

01/01/06 304.0
01/08/06 298.0
01/15/06 292.2
01/22/06 287.0
01/29/06 285.6
02/05/06 283.8
02/12/06 281.8
02/20/06 278.6
03/05/06 276.2
03/12/06 274.2
03/19/06 272.6
04/01/06 269.2

I just got back from a two week business trip, and will be back on the road for a week in three days. So my diet hasn't been ideal, but not a disaster... more troubling, I haven't been on my bike or done any other cardio excercise in a month. :(

2/1/06@ 207
2/8/06@204
2/11/06@202
2/19/06@201
2/26/06 200
3/5/06-200
3/12/06-198
3/19/06-196
3/26/06-195
4/2/06-195
4/9/06-192

01/01/06 282.0
01/08/06 272.4
01/15/06 265.8
01/22/06 264.2
01/29/06 260.4
02/05/06 262.4
02/12/06 259.6
02/19/06 256.6
02/26/06 257.0
03/05/06 254.6
03/12/06 253.0
03/26/06 259.0
04/02/06 252.0
04/09/06 251.8

I am happy that i was able to maintain my big loss from last week. I have not actually been on a diet for quite a while... i have not actually dieted since like 3/05. I plan to start again on more of a diet plan tommorow. it will be very interesting to see what happens!

mike

I've been busy with extra work and did'nt watch what I ate .Up a couple to 225. But got a new ride and today starts a new begining.I can sneeze and get off track!

12/5/2005 - 227lbs
4/8/2006 - 195lbs

5'9" - Vegetarian. NUMBER ONE ASSET! Portion control, low-carbs, lots of greens, and NO SUGAR.






oh yeah, and of course Cycling.

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4/16/06-192 looks like im stuck on this weight

So how's everybody doing?

i started my diet in april and i just began biking on june 9. so far i'm down 25 pounds from 290-265. i try to bike 5 days a week, at least 7 miles per trip. i'm gonna shoot for 10 miles on my ride tomorrow. basically i just cut out soda, snacks and reduced my portions quite considerably. i eat a lot of lean pockets and drink lots of diet snapple peach iced tea mostly. i'm hoping to get down to 180, but 170 sure sounds better.

i started my diet in april and i just began biking on june 9. so far i'm down 25 pounds from 290-265. i try to bike 5 days a week, at least 7 miles per trip. i'm gonna shoot for 10 miles on my ride tomorrow. basically i just cut out soda, snacks and reduced my portions quite considerably. i eat a lot of lean pockets and drink lots of diet snapple peach iced tea mostly. i'm hoping to get down to 180, but 170 sure sounds better.

25 pounds in under a month is pretty extreme. Are you eating enough?

25 pounds in under a month is pretty extreme. Are you eating enough?
April, May and June is 3 months. June being the only one he's been cycling. 2 pounds a week doesn't seem unreasonable for someone starting out in their 290s.