Mountain Biking - i love that picture

http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/565/pbpic565606.jpg

geez that's nuts

A lot of suspension in that one. Is that Bender's bike?

A lot of suspension in that one. Is that Bender's bike?
yeah it is, without the seat extension though

i always thought it would be awesome to ride a Karpiel Armageddon once, i have no need for 11" or so of travel but it'd be fun to feel

It looks hard to ride. Didn't the seat extension have heaps of duct tape around it? :lol:

Someone is selling an Armageddon frame at ridemonkey for only $1550 :) Better jump on it!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c258/BrianHCM/IMG_06011.jpg

That is a sweet looking bike though!

http://www.spinzbikeshop.com/images/gallery/sized.DSCN0327.JPG

Bender is ********. He needs to use his brain instead of skull. "Gotta go big man, gotta go big".

That bike looks ******** too, WAY too much travel in the front.

WAY too much travel in the front.

too much travel for what?

Bender is ********. He needs to use his brain instead of skull. "Gotta go big man, gotta go big".

That bike looks ******** too, WAY too much travel in the front.

It really annoys the heck out of me when people go out and makes these claims. Have you ever met the guy, do you realise the impact Bender had on the freeriding discipline? If he wasn't around, do you have any idea how far back the industry would be without Bender? Calling someone who had a major influence on the realm of freeriding ******** is ********.
:rolleyes:

that's a stupid claim. He isn't rtarded at all, Kona got to it beofre i did, he has had a HUGE impact and now he goes big. he was doing **** before anyone else. Have you ever done a 30+ft drop. I doubt it. He's an innovator so lay off the guy

i'm thinking it'd be abit of a cramp on the bike. maybe abit too much travel...

There were freeriders before Bender. Freeride would still be the way it is now. The only thing he's done(which hasn't 'evolved' the sport in any way) is basically try to copy freeride skiing on a bike to get attention. Compare him to other freeriders, his form is terrible, he doesn't make most of his drops, and when he does it looks like crap. Anyone with half a brain can fall off a cliff.

So he attempted the worlds largest drop? HE DIDN'T MAKE IT and nearly killed himself doing it. He clearly didn't think it out, because the landing looked like SAND from what I saw. He nearly killed himself at redbull rampage, and recently broke some vertebra. Real freeriders think, they don't just do.


Have you ever done a 30+ft drop.
Have you?

REAL freeriders that have influenced freeride are : Tomas Vanderham, Richie Schley,Robbie Bourdon, Darren Berrecloth, and Dave Watson.

i'm not sure if that's a 26"/24" set up, or if that's a moto fork and wheel up front...

You don't have to have done a 30+ foot drop to respect Bender.

You do have to do one before you criticize him without sounding like a ******.

You don't have to have done a 30+ foot drop to respect Bender.

You do have to do one before you can talk about him without sounding like a ******.

It's not whether he has or not, nor if I have or not, it's his mentality. He's all balls and no brains.

I think he knows what he's doing, he probably weighs up his chances before dropping. Has he died on any of the drops? No, some did go wrong and fractured vertebrae are serious but you can't be 100% sure that you'll land a drop. Those drops are much harder and bigger, hence the smaller chance of success, yet he still makes many.

:lol: Look at the crank arms on his bike! Other than that, I want it.

Jason222, stop looking for a fight, quit now otherwise you're going to get blasted..just a warning.

dude those are bmx cranks

I think he knows what he's doing, he probably weighs up his chances before dropping. Has he died on any of the drops?

Not yet.

People think that because they have the "balls to the wall" mentality people are going to respect them and hold them high on a pedestal. But really they are taking chances with their life and by sheer luck haven't killed themselves yet. Im just making a very general statement, I really don't know the guy a whole lot so I don't know if this is the case.

i dont care if you are the dumbest person out there. anyone who trys a 50+ foot drop on a bike deserves some respect.

i dont care if you are the dumbest person out there. anyone who trys a 50+ foot drop on a bike deserves some respect.

Not in my book. Bender doesn't have a reputation for actually landing anything. He can't land a 40 foot drop, but you admire him for trying a 50 foot one?

Ill admire him for being stupid enough to throw his life around like it means nothing. But I wont admire him for his skill or biking achievements.

Not in my book. Bender doesn't have a reputation for actually landing anything. He can't land a 40 foot drop, but you admire him for trying a 50 foot one?

i dont admire him. i admire people like brian lopes, and guys that dh. that right there is some skill(in my eyes)

but i do give him the credit(i think)he deserves for actually attempting it. i just dont think you should bad mouth the guy just becasue he goes big. the not landing thing, yea he doesnt land alot, and he looks like a mess when he does. il agree with you totally on that.

Ill admire him for being stupid enough to throw his life around like it means nothing. But I wont admire him for his skill or biking achievements.

My thoughts exactly. I think he all balls, no brains. The biggest drop he has landed is what, 42 ft or something? Now he is tlaking (well before he crapped out and broke his back and leg) about doing a 100 ft drop. In my opinion, the guy is an idiot.

There were freeriders before Bender. Freeride would still be the way it is now. The only thing he's done(which hasn't 'evolved' the sport in any way) is basically try to copy freeride skiing on a bike to get attention. Compare him to other freeriders, his form is terrible, he doesn't make most of his drops, and when he does it looks like crap. Anyone with half a brain can fall off a cliff.

So he attempted the worlds largest drop? HE DIDN'T MAKE IT and nearly killed himself doing it. He clearly didn't think it out, because the landing looked like SAND from what I saw. He nearly killed himself at redbull rampage, and recently broke some vertebra. Real freeriders think, they don't just do.


Have you?

REAL freeriders that have influenced freeride are : Tomas Vanderham, Richie Schley,Robbie Bourdon, Darren Berrecloth, and Dave Watson.

You don't think when you go at something huge you want to think, thinking about it will make any person back off, then how can a sport progress without having the cajones to take a go at something that hasn't been tried before? You're making an estimate on the person through the films, anyone who has seen him ride in person, knows that he is a really good all around rider. Vanderham as an influence, please, he hasn't really contributed a single thing. Schley, Berrecloth, Bourdon and Watson have been influences. But apparently you ignored a few there mr expert, big ones at that.

Wade Simmons, Tarek Rassouli, BENDER, if it wasn't for him we would still be doing nothing but shoots and stunts, Dan Cowan, Bret Tippie, John Jesme, Ryan Leech.

Never heard much about Tarek Rassouli, because he was out of the mix quickly, mostly due to paralysis due to a hard crash on his bike. Rassouli was one of the originals in the street scene and a major influence on People like Timo Pritzel, Aaron Chase and countless others in the street scene.

i dont admire him. i admire people like brian lopes, and guys that dh. that right there is some skill(in my eyes)

but i do give him the credit(i think)he deserves for actually attempting it. i just dont think you should bad mouth the guy just becasue he goes big. the not landing thing, yea he doesnt land alot, and he looks like a mess when he does. il agree with you totally on that.

He's pretty much setting his sights on something he can't achieve. No credit for not thinking.

He's pretty much setting his sights on something he can't achieve. No credit for not thinking.

varying opinions. i dont think we can go much further than this.

Cheers. :beer:

They are a good company. You don't hear to much about them though.

Have you?




no, i haven't. that's my point you thick skulled dolt. I think it's amazing and actually would like to try it. My whole point right there, you have to have actualy been where he's been to criticise hime like that, and not sound moronic

No, I haven't. That's my point you thick skulled dolt. I think it's amazing and actually would like to try it. My whole point right there, you have to have actualy been where he's been to criticise hime like that, and not sound moronic.

Did you make up this rule? Maybe you should consider some english classes so that you can post "and not sound moronic".


Wade Simmons, Tarek Rassouli, BENDER, if it wasn't for him we would still be doing nothing but shoots and stunts, Dan Cowan, Bret Tippie, John Jesme, Ryan Leech.

Yep, I've heard of all of them. But, define freeride. For some, it's north shore stunts and events like the redbull rampage. To others, Freeride includes other disciplines, like Dirt Jumping, Street, downhill and more. I didn't want to go into that, so I merely compared riders that have similar disciplines of riding. I respect all of those riders, but Bender could just be an average joe. Average joe with a low IQ could fall off a cliff if he was stupid enough. Bender just tries to get recognized for trying HUGE drops(although lands few) and having a bike that has an insane amount of travel.


Bender's bike has a 12in Risse fork and has 12 or so inches of rear travel through two shocks - one just does rebound... Chipps could hardly lift it.

He just wants to be famous as being brainless, and he does this well. The only way I can see a positive influence he's made is, he's influenced new riders to try bigger drops(and maybe LAND them). Although, this could be taken negatively as well. If they try to replicate their hero, they could severely hurt themselves, which doesn't progess the sport at all?

No rider should try to do something beyond their level, you should work up to it. A rider in RedBull rampage 2 said something like this, because he had seen many of his friends hurt that summer(sorry, can't remember which rider). Bender is known for doing stunts above his level, and what happens? HE DOESN'T LAND IT!

He just wants to be famous as being brainless, and he does this well. The only way I can see a positive enfluence he's made is, he's enfluenced new riders to try bigger drops(and maybe LAND them). Although, this could be taken negatively as well. If they try to replicate their hero, they could severely hurt themselves, which doesn't progess the sport at all?

No rider should try to do something beyond their level, you should work up to it. A rider in RedBull rampage 2 said something like this, because he had seen many of his friends hurt that summer(sorry, can't remember which rider). Bender is known for doing stunts above his level, and what happens? HE DOESN'T LAND IT!

........and there you have it from Jason222 the famous freerider from that hotbed of freeride,NB.
Dude,how old are you?? It sounds like your about 80 and worried someone will get hurt. Oh and influence is spelled with an I.Now go take your training wheels off and ride you big boy bike. :)

Oh and influence is spelled with an I.
Sorry about that, that one got by me.

Dude,how old are you?? It sounds like your about 80 and worried someone will get hurt.
Are you going to try to turn this against me or argue your points? Or can you not do this?


Now go take your training wheels off and ride you big boy bike.
Nice attempt at trying to make yourself look superior. It's working. Very original too.

Did you make up this rule? Maybe you should consider some english classes so that you can post "and not sound moronic".

Posts like this always make me laugh. Look inward, before you start correcting others.


Everyone else, chill out. Can we talk about chain lube, or SRAM vs Shimano instead? Or heck, maybe even that bike that started this thread?

Sorry about that, that one got by me.

Are you going to try to turn this against me or argue your points? Or can you not do this?


Nice attempt at trying to make yourself look superior. It's working. Very original too.
:roflmao: Your funny.

Are you going to try to turn this against me or argue your points? Or can you not do this?.

My point is that if someone wants to huck something big, its up to them to take that risk.What does not progress the sport is saying "don't do that,you might get hurt". Don't get mad about the big boy thing I was just messin' with ya.

I would mostly have to agree with jason. Don't get me wrong I'm not acting like I know alot, but from what I do know it seems bender is a complete moron.

I'm gonna have to agree with both side of this conversation. Sure Bender can be pretty careless with his life but then again he has done a hell of a lot for the freeride industry. So I say props to him hes helping us all out.