Mountain Biking - Hubs and Pawls?
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10-25-02, 10:48 PM
I am not even sure if I have that word right but I was curious if anyone knew of a lookup sheet for companies hubs and the number of pawls (engagement points if I have the word wrong) they contain. I am looking for a new hub in the winter and have a couple of hubs in mind but am interested in the engagement rate as I sometimes play with Trials stuff.
10-26-02, 04:14 PM
This is from the Chris King site, also Hadley has the same internals. The biggest differance between the two is the Hadley has some Ti parts. The Hadley is designed for dh and is a bit more durable then the C.K.
"All of our rear hubs utilize our patented RingDrive™ engagement mechanism. RingDrive™ uses 72 engagement teeth on each drive ring. That means the hub engages over 3 times quicker than the standard 24 tooth pawl-type freehub. Trying to get get started again in the middle of a steep uphill section? Going for the surprise jump to drop your buddies? This unique design offers instant and positive engagement that's capable of handling a torque load of over 800ft/lbs, or over three times more than most other high end hubs we've tested. It is the heart of our hub and all rest is built around it."
Hope this helps.
10-26-02, 04:22 PM
Helps a lot. Thank you. Is it a freehub? Does it use standard cassettes. I am seriously considering the Hadley (on your recommendation a while ago) but have only found one place that sells them, so I have to be sure I will be able to do most of the work myself.
10-26-02, 04:36 PM
Ignore that last question did a little readin (should have in the first place) The hadley accepts standard cassette and the freewheel can be rebuilt. Thanx for the help. I think I even found a company that sells them, now I just need to figure out if they are reputable.
10-26-02, 04:45 PM
Go-Ride is a good company also check here
The Intense hub is a Hadley but stamped with an Intense logo.
I order from Cambria all the time. They are also very helpful.
10-26-02, 04:49 PM
One big problem you need to consider, will your frame accept a 12mm through axel? If not you will need to find some one that can drill the dropouts stright.
Never mind. I just checked out the site and they have a standared qr so that wont be a problem.
10-26-02, 04:57 PM
Cheers and thanx again. Although I was reading the wrong hub with regards to the Cassette. Now I am not sure if it is a special cassette or a standard one.
I did check the 12mm axle. But if worst came to worst I could get someone to drill for me. We have enough shops around here. Just no one seems to carry hubs for a reasonable price (kc for example are 650$)
10-26-02, 07:55 PM
Hadleys use your standard Shimano spaced 9 speed.
If you have a competent machinest I would recomend getting the 12mm. If you do get the 12mm you will need to supply the distance between your dropouts. Most are 135mm but I would measure it to be sure.Measure from the outer most edges of the dropouts. If it is going on a Kona they tend to have thicker dropouts then other bikes.
The 12mm does not come with an axel, they make them to order and run an extra 15 bucks or so(at least that is what I paid). A better option for the axel would be to go to a machine shop and have them make you one from stainless steal. If you do any big drops there is a chance that the one that you get for the hub could break. Hadley makes them out of a very light alloy. I had a ss axel made because I found stress fractures forming.
10-27-02, 10:49 AM
Thanx. I will go speak to my shop and ask them if they were serious about being able to do it. If not I will stick with the normal axle.
And really I hjave been riding a deore hub. The only reason for the big upgrade is the fact that I DESTROY freewheels. I go through them now about once a month. I have spend almost 250$ on replacement freewheels already. I am really hoping a higher end hub will fix this.
Cheers. And if you ever make it up to Whistler I owe you a beer for all the help you have given me. :beer: :beer:
10-27-02, 01:00 PM
Some faimily friends have a place at the base of Whistler so we might just take ya up on that beer.
It is relativly easy to drill the dropouts especialy if you have a drill press.
I have worked my way up to 7' drops to flat and the Hadley is still going strong.
10-27-02, 05:17 PM
Well anytime, just let me know when you are around.
7' and the hub still goes...holy smokes at around 3ft I am terrified of breaking stuff. I really need to get more confident in my bike :D
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