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Michigander
01-18-06, 08:56 AM
In light of all the threads about the best musicians, movies and such, lets name the worst musicians. The vote's I'll make go out to Janis Jopplin, Kid Rock, Korn and the rest of that annoying alternative genre, and each and every rapper in existance. Well, then again, rappers can't really be called "musicians". In truth, they are just makers of aggressive toned white noise.

CyLowe97
01-18-06, 09:14 AM
Kenny G. Biggest waste of skill ever committed to record/tape/CD.

Discussion over.


[edit - keep on discussing... these threads are fun... :) )

Stacey
01-18-06, 09:22 AM
The 5, 6, 7, 8's! But I love 'em!

Like a bad accident, you can't look away

FatguyRacer
01-18-06, 01:35 PM
+1 on Kid Rock

The Donna's
The Sex Pistols

I disagree with Joplin. Her backing band Big Brother and the Holding Company could play.

free_pizza
01-18-06, 02:08 PM
Billy Ray Sirrius
Shania Twain
Nickelback (Default, theory of a deadman, they are all the same band im sure)
Our Lady Peace
i could go on all day, and i will, later

Feldman
01-18-06, 03:15 PM
Kenny Rogers. Andreas Wollenweider and anyone else who calls their music "new age."

Sprocket Man
01-18-06, 03:19 PM
B.B. King - Maybe not the worst, but highly overrated.
I second the vote for Kenny G. Pure suckage. He's technically proficient - but his music will suck the life force out of you.
The Ramones - I bet even they would agree (at least the one's who are still alive probably would)

CyLowe97
01-18-06, 03:28 PM
B.B. King - Maybe not the worst, but highly overrated.

You are out of your mind.

I've seen hundreds of live shows and guitarists in my day and the two times I saw BB play were pure magic. He can wring notes out of that Gibson that are just so pure and full of joy that it damm near brought me to tears.

BB is a national treasure.

classic1
01-18-06, 03:54 PM
I'll be first to congratulate that putz guitarist in REM when he finally manages to pull off a guitar solo.

That singer will also improve when he manages to sing through his mouth and not his nose.

REM - better than a mogadon.

-=Łem in Pa=-
01-18-06, 04:18 PM
+1 on Kid Rock

The Donna's
The Sex Pistols

I disagree with Joplin. Her backing band Big Brother and the Holding Company could play.

Fatguy racer....I have agreed with EVERY post of yours I have read in
a few different forums but here I must respectfully diverge from that ......... http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif
The SeX PisT0Ls !! Huh !?!?!? They started a music revolution that had intensity never
matched before of after !!
Nothing else matters !!!! OI OI OI ~~http://deephousepage.com/smilies/music049.gif

The Donnas !!! 'Huh' again !!!!
The Donnas have EVERYTHING that make a great rokk 'n r0LL band !!
All the great, sleazy time honored r0cK & RoLL traditions of sex, drugs and rokk-n-roll
are covered by this sloppy grrrl version of AC/DC !!! Their basic rifferey puts all the
System of a Down / Limp Biscit/Nirvana crappo guy bands to shame !!!

:D :D

marcelinyc
01-18-06, 04:23 PM
antyhing called classic rock

-=Łem in Pa=-
01-18-06, 04:24 PM
The Ramones - I bet even they would agree (at least the one's who are still alive probably would)

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georgiaboy
01-18-06, 04:34 PM
I'll be first to congratulate that putz guitarist in REM when he finally manages to pull off a guitar solo.

That singer will also improve when he manages to sing through his mouth and not his nose.

REM - better than a mogadon.

In the '80 on REM's first 4 albums Peter Buck used a cross-picking style on a Gretch guitar it was really great. When their music styled changed it became very evident Buck could not play a guitar solo. It wasn't again until Automatic for the People that Buck returned to his strong suit of guitar picking.

In their whole catalog of work he has moments of brilliance and disparity in his musicianship.

georgiaboy
01-18-06, 04:37 PM
B.B. King - Maybe not the worst, but highly overrated.
I second the vote for Kenny G. Pure suckage. He's technically proficient - but his music will suck the life force out of you.
The Ramones - I bet even they would agree (at least the one's who are still alive probably would)


I saw BB King in concert and was not impressed. Seems to me he had a jazz drummer and not a blues drummer. The Tower of Power horn section was great. BB's getting old now and he is a diabetic and certainly not in his prime. It's good to revisit some of his older recordings.

I saw Johnny Winter at the same show and his 3-piece kicked butt.

-=Łem in Pa=-
01-18-06, 04:41 PM
^^^^^ One of the things that distinguish a great musician
is knowing when NOT to play. I think Buck is a memorable
guitarist. Very tasteful. For a good lesson in not knowing when
to shut up....listen to, or try to as it were, the Motly Crew guitarist
attempt a solo. Lou Reeds Metal Machine Music is more tuneful.

bigskymacadam
01-18-06, 04:57 PM
all that have been mentioned are annoying at worst, but still talented. even kenny g and rapstars can sound horrible, but worst musician? come on.

kelly clarkson takes the cake. have you heard her live? she can not pull it off. beyond horrible.

randya
01-18-06, 04:57 PM
I saw Johnny Winter at the same show and his 3-piece kicked butt.
Johnny Winter used to be good, but the last time I saw him live about 3 years ago, he was so drugged out that his timing was completely off and he sang and played like sh!t. If he needed the money that bad, you'd think that all the younger musicians who learned their chops from him would put on a tribute show and just let him sit it out.

-=Łem in Pa=-
01-18-06, 05:07 PM
^^^^ I saw him at a blues festival in Philly a few years ago
and he played OK but it was too, too, too busy !! :eek: :eek:
Nothing but non-stop soloing like Yngvie Malmsteen playing the
blues. Chords !!! MARS NEEDS CHORDS !!!!!!

BIGPAKO
01-18-06, 05:11 PM
My church choir, totally sucks ass!

Sprocket Man
01-18-06, 05:28 PM
You are out of your mind.

I've seen hundreds of live shows and guitarists in my day and the two times I saw BB play were pure magic. He can wring notes out of that Gibson that are just so pure and full of joy that it damm near brought me to tears.

BB is a national treasure.Not out of my mind - just disagreeing with you. I've seen him live twice. Thankfully, I didn't have to pay for the tickets or I would have been upset. Sloppy playing, and his solos aren't well thought out. If he's a national treasure, our country is in deep trouble.

Sprocket Man
01-18-06, 05:34 PM
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Name me a Ramones song that couldn't be played just as well by some 8th grader who's played guitar for 6 months? NONE, because all their songs were made up of 5 easy power chords played over and over! They were influential, but so far as musicianship goes, there has to be a certain level of technical proficiency to be considered a musician. If any of the Ramones had any technical proficiency, it was certainly never displayed in their music.

randya
01-18-06, 07:11 PM
Name me a Ramones song that couldn't be played just as well by some 8th grader who's played guitar for 6 months? NONE, because all their songs were made up of 5 easy power chords played over and over! They were influential, but so far as musicianship goes, there has to be a certain level of technical proficiency to be considered a musician. If any of the Ramones had any technical proficiency, it was certainly never displayed in their music.
Who said music had to be complicated to be good? If that were true all the great garage bands would be sooo disappointed.

-=Łem in Pa=-
01-18-06, 07:28 PM
Name me a Ramones song that couldn't be played just as well by some 8th grader who's played guitar for 6 months? NONE, because all their songs were made up of 5 easy power chords played over and over! They were influential, but so far as musicianship goes, there has to be a certain level of technical proficiency to be considered a musician. If any of the Ramones had any technical proficiency, it was certainly never displayed in their music.

I cant argue about the Ramones....
But, NOBODY can sound like them. Anybody can sound like VanHalen, but nobody
can sound like the Ramones. Technical proficiancy has no place in rock 'n roll !! :roflmao:
Also, if you've ever seen them live, you cant help but like them even if you wouldnt listen
to thier music....Ive known stoner DeadHeads who flipped when they saw them.

Shifty
01-18-06, 07:39 PM
all that have been mentioned are annoying at worst, but still talented. even kenny g and rapstars can sound horrible, but worst musician? come on.

kelly clarkson takes the cake. have you heard her live? she can not pull it off. beyond horrible.

Thats right Kelly Clarkson reaks, and so does the other one Clay whats-his-face, some real CRAPola coming out of Texas these days.

Shifty
01-18-06, 07:42 PM
Of all time, that's either Herman's Hermits (vomitous) with a second place to lee Greenwood, GAG!

Poppaspoke
01-18-06, 07:56 PM
Green Day. What is worst: the phony British accent? The poopy power ballads? The punk rock pretentions? The glam-rock makeup? If you want to listen to phony punk music, The Jam is a much better choice.

lsits
01-18-06, 08:59 PM
U2.

I saw a portion of their segment on 60 minutes. Larry Mullen told Ed Bradly that they weren't very good. Maybe some saw it as false modesty, but I will take him at his word. I think "The Edge" only knows, like, three chords. Bono has zilch for vocal range. The bass player is the best musician, but he's average at best. I don't see how people can stand the crap that they put out. (Flame suit on)

roccobike
01-18-06, 09:05 PM
So many rap groups.........so little space.

georgiaboy
01-18-06, 10:13 PM
Of all time, that's either Herman's Hermits (vomitous) with a second place to lee Greenwood, GAG!


Did Mrs Brown actually have a Lovely Daughter ?

Shifty
01-18-06, 10:38 PM
Did Mrs Brown actually have a Lovely Daughter ?

You'll have to ask Henry the 8th, while I hurl at the thought of those songs
:D

Sprocket Man
01-18-06, 10:38 PM
Who said music had to be complicated to be good? I certainly didn't. Music can be technically proficient without being complicated. As an example, have you ever heard the Pat Metheny Group's "Phase Dance"? Very proficient, yet still a very simple tune. Quite brilliant, actually.

Sprocket Man
01-18-06, 10:50 PM
I cant argue about the Ramones....
But, NOBODY can sound like them. Anybody can sound like VanHalen, but nobody
can sound like the Ramones. Technical proficiancy has no place in rock 'n roll !! :roflmao:
Also, if you've ever seen them live, you cant help but like them even if you wouldnt listen
to thier music....Ive known stoner DeadHeads who flipped when they saw them.Actually, I'm was a huge Ramones fan and I saw them live when they were touring to promote "Rock and Roll High School". I had me a leather jacket and cut my hair like DeeDee (thank god no one has pictures of me back then!). I wanted a stack of Marshall amps just like them, but my parents killed that idea :o . Great band. Although their musicianship may be debatable, they certainly performed with a ton of energy and were real crowd pleasers.

mtnbiker66
01-19-06, 04:45 AM
Wendy O williams and the Plazmatics really sucked and dont forget Twisted Sister.

red house
01-19-06, 05:02 AM
Kenny G. Biggest waste of skill ever committed to record/tape/CD.

Discussion over.


[edit - keep on discussing... these threads are fun... :) )


+ Thankyou. He fills the lucrative niche of smoothe jizz cleshe pop sh!t . . good for him.. But when he re released a louis Armstrong recording with him "playing" over it.. he deserved be anally violated with his own horn i.m.h.o



Also, I second Van Halen . . -he even once bragged about listening to Clapton instead of Hendrix . . because Hendrix was "weird" -??.. -can someone please shoot the pretentious mother&cker? :D

56/12 and 22/28
01-19-06, 05:24 AM
Primus.

georgiaboy
01-19-06, 05:31 AM
Primus.


Les Claypool is an accomplished bass player. At one time it was rumored he would be joining Metallica.

What throws some people off about Primus is the lead instrument in a song being a bass guitar.

Olebiker
01-19-06, 05:43 AM
Of all time, that's either Herman's Hermits (vomitous)

It was a much simpler time and, when it comes to music, I am a simple guy. I still enjoy Something Good, Mrs. Brown You've Got a Lovely Daughter, and Sillhouettes on the Shade. Musicians that I don't care for are the ones who insist that music must be intellectually challenging and stimulating.

I know a lot of folks will disagree with me on this one, but who told Neil Young he could sing?

classic1
01-19-06, 06:12 AM
+ Thankyou. He fills the lucrative niche of smoothe jizz cleshe pop sh!t . . good for him.. But when he re released a louis Armstrong recording with him "playing" over it.. he deserved be anally violated with his own horn i.m.h.o



Which end?

CyLowe97
01-19-06, 06:25 AM
Not out of my mind - just disagreeing with you. I've seen him live twice. Thankfully, I didn't have to pay for the tickets or I would have been upset. Sloppy playing, and his solos aren't well thought out. If he's a national treasure, our country is in deep trouble.

We can agree to disagree about B.B. King, then...

roadrasher
01-19-06, 07:14 AM
Any prefab, marketing driven corporate pretty boy/girl copy cat creations.

IMO this prety much crosses all genre's. I could name names but you get the gist.

Originality is a wonderful thing when mated with talent. Corporate hype sucks..

Video killed the radio star.

Oh, and me, 20 years of playing guitar and i still suck! :o

'Rasher

CyLowe97
01-19-06, 07:22 AM
Any prefab, marketing driven corporate pretty boy/girl copy cat creations.


I know you know the exception to this rule is Color Me Badd, right? Those guys were super-original!!




(i'm KIDDING, people!!.... :rolleyes: )

FatguyRacer
01-19-06, 08:09 AM
Fatguy racer....I have agreed with EVERY post of yours I have read in
a few different forums but here I must respectfully diverge from that ......... http://deephousepage.com/smilies/chair1.gif
The SeX PisT0Ls !! Huh !?!?!? They started a music revolution that had intensity never
matched before of after !!
Nothing else matters !!!! OI OI OI ~~http://deephousepage.com/smilies/music049.gif

The Donnas !!! 'Huh' again !!!!
The Donnas have EVERYTHING that make a great rokk 'n r0LL band !!
All the great, sleazy time honored r0cK & RoLL traditions of sex, drugs and rokk-n-roll
are covered by this sloppy grrrl version of AC/DC !!! Their basic rifferey puts all the
System of a Down / Limp Biscit/Nirvana crappo guy bands to shame !!!

:D :D

Hi Fem.

I mentioned them because they are technically awful. There are alot of bands mentioned in this thread, that while awful, they have good technical skills. I dont disagree with the asssertion that the Sex Pistols started a revolution or that the Donnas dont entertain. That really has nothing to do with muscianship. When U2 first started they were technically awful too but the content was compelling. Its too bad that as an act they got worse as they got more proficient musically.

BIGPAKO
01-20-06, 09:59 AM
U2.

I saw a portion of their segment on 60 minutes. Larry Mullen told Ed Bradly that they weren't very good. Maybe some saw it as false modesty, but I will take him at his word. I think "The Edge" only knows, like, three chords. Bono has zilch for vocal range. The bass player is the best musician, but he's average at best. I don't see how people can stand the crap that they put out. (Flame suit on)

WTF!

Well then I guess we should include The Cure, Pink Floyd, ________, _________, ______, etc. "Fudge!" let's just include all rock bands.

peregrine
01-20-06, 12:18 PM
Vanilla Ice for sure. *shakes head* pathetic

Namenda
01-20-06, 12:45 PM
I paid top dollar for his album, back in the day. The girls loved it...

bluebottle1
01-20-06, 01:47 PM
Well, I'm sorry to have to break the news to you, my friends, but you're all wrong. All of you, completely wrong. There can be only one candidate for worst musicians of all time and that is The Shaggs. You can read about the band and hear samples here:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:jgjveay04xs7

The band's first recording "Philosophy of the World" is an absolute musical turd that has been cited as a favorite by no lesser luminary than Frank Zappa. No one knows if he was joking or even sober at the time.

jeff williams
01-20-06, 01:59 PM
Les Claypool is an accomplished bass player. At one time it was rumored he would be joining Metallica.

What throws some people off about Primus is the lead instrument in a song being a bass guitar.


Tommy the Cat is the only song I ever liked that Primus did.
A better bassist in hard rock is Rob Wright from NomeansNo.

As far a the SexPistols starting anything? :rolleyes: Ran with it maybe. There were bands before, but not as scandalous and media savvy.
THE band of the era europe was CRASS IMO, lousy musicians, great social\political diatribe.
The most interesting by far was Cabaret Voltaire who had recordings pre'74 of some really awful sounding crap. Nag,Nag,Nag! being the most annoying song EVER recorded.
Second most annoying punk song recorded Subhuman by Throbbing Gristle.

Severed Heads first recording were pretty nasty =:Goodbye Tonsils, Slab City Horror.
Hardest record to sit through (though technically proficient) Naked City :Torture Garden.

Orikal
01-20-06, 05:13 PM
U2.

I saw a portion of their segment on 60 minutes. Larry Mullen told Ed Bradly that they weren't very good. Maybe some saw it as false modesty, but I will take him at his word. I think "The Edge" only knows, like, three chords. Bono has zilch for vocal range. The bass player is the best musician, but he's average at best. I don't see how people can stand the crap that they put out. (Flame suit on)

+ 1

I by no means claim to have an extensive knowledge of their songs (because I can't stand them), but each and every one I've heard sounds the EXACT same. Overly formulaic.

I don't think they're the worst band ever, because they've obviously contributed a lot over the years. But I think it's time to hang it up.

red house
01-20-06, 06:30 PM
Has someone mentioned Celine Deon yet?

Karldar
01-20-06, 07:15 PM
In what I believe to be the spirit of this thread, I have to nominate Dave Matthews. Can't stand his voice. He's just one of the more current annoyances, tho. I also dislike the bands that sound like they're whining about everything--most so-called rock nowadays. I admit, there's a lot to whine about, but, damn! If your song gets someone to act on an issue, that's cool, but I'd much prefer you stop yowling and go do something about it yourself. Stuff like that is why I'm happy to listen to my CD's rather than turn on the radio.

For old school, Bob Dylan is much worse, in my opinion. He can write, don't get me wrong, but singing? Not his strong suit. All this is totally subjective, of course.

As far as actual musicians go, I don't play an instrument so anyone who can(proficiently) deserves at least a little respect from me, I think. Doesn't mean I like all of it, but I'll give 'em props if their playing sounds better than a cat being strangled with an accordion. <---That's what I imagine my attempt would sound like...maybe worse.