Foo - Logger boots- what's the deal?

you know, logger boots like these:

http://www.bootconnection.com/images/brands/carolina/922a.jpg

What's the deal with the tall heel and the little kiltie? [the little leather fringe at the bottom of the laces]

Ummm.... That's the way they were designed?

Those look more to me like western work boots. The curlier the fringe, the better the boot is broken in. At least that's what my sister in law says - and she is a bonafide cowgirl.

So those have no practical benefits whatsoever?

I'm sure they have some sort of function, but what?

Email the company and talk to the designer. You're asking the wrong people.

Those look more to me like western work boots. The curlier the fringe, the better the boot is broken in.
Those are logger boots. That is what they are called. Westerners may wear them as work boots, but they really are logger boots.


The curlier the fringe, the better the boot is broken in.

This is exactly what I am looking for!

Email the company and talk to the designer. You're asking the wrong people.
But the thing is there is no single designer. Scores of boot companies make boots in this style. It is not just a special thing for one manufacturer.

A heel like that has several uses. If it were a riding boot it is to make sure the foot will not slide forward in the stiffup. Those are walking/work boots, but the advantage of a fairly high heel is similar. Think of going down a muddy hill. That heel is high enough to dig in and hold. A shorter heel will allow the area in front of the heel to easily fill with mud and then when you try to dig in all that happens is your feet go out from under you.

http://www.bootconnection.com/images/brands/carolina/922a.jpg


These are obviously for people with really thin legs, and gigantic feet.

These are obviously for people with really thin legs, and gigantic feet.

Ronald McDonald?

:roflmao:

http://cdn.news.aol.com/aolnews_photos/03/04/20050716192709990001
At least %50 of the Village People wear logger boots, and that ain't bad. :beer:

They have to fit tight on the leg to keep chainsaw dust from going in the boot, large heel for walking on slippery logs and wet forest debris. Great vibram sole for working in steep mountains of mud, fallen trees, and muck. These boots don't last too long in Oregon in a wet year. The tassle is used to pick up the waitress at the Lucky Logger Cafe in Walterville Oregon, likes the styling.

Those boots are most likely "Whites", they are pretty much the standard boot maker for wildland fire fighters. You can get them in heights starting at 10" up to 18" (I may be wrong on the heights) and they can make custom insoles for them as well. Once broken in, they are pretty hard to beat. The tall heel is good for digging in on steep terrain when going down hill, digging line, or sawing. Contrary to what Shifty says, they will indeed last long in Oregon if properly taken care of. Take a look at what any Hotshot, Heli-rappel, or Smoke jumper crew are wearing sometime and they are pretty tough on footwear.

Contrary to what Shifty says, they will indeed last long in Oregon if properly taken care of.

Agree, pretty wet and harsh here, you need to maintain them.
:)

They're fer stompin' little weenie bike ridin' p**** fellers in them ***** lookin' britches they wear..........spit...........fart.......... :D

My guess is the kiltie is just a fashionable way of extending the tongue leather over the frontof the shoe...reaso n is probably the way it's stitched is so water won't accumulate in the area around the tongue.

This design is pretty common in extreme weather boots. I used to have a pair of boots that had this design but wasn't flashy enough to use anything but a solid piece of leather...which looked horrid.

Hi,
I bought a pair of real loggers boots nearly 40 years ago.
This was in Maine. No skirt, the sole was really thick vibram, like a
heavy duty truck tire. But the heel wasn't raised much at all.

I wore that boot for almost a decade. After walking a couple thousand miles on it I decided it was invulnerable and would jump in water or anything I felt like doing.

Great boots.

Well, I don't know necessarily why they're designed that way, but I like the high tops on my work boots because they tuck under my jeans so stuff doesn't get into the boots. Regarding the heel, though, I'd much rather have a more flexible sole. With a huge sole, you can't tell what the ground is doing under your feet and steep hills become awkward because your ankle is always at a painful angle.

My soccer cleats have a long toungue that folds over the laces to keep the knot from screwing up my kick. I'm not sure it works, though, because I still miss a lot.

I don't believe that the "Kilte" serves a purpose. I do have a pair of golf shoes with a "Kilte" I have always thought they just looked funny. As far as my boots, I wear a pair of Red Wings cowboy boots every day of the year, unless I'm running or riding. Can't see much of a point for any boots you have to take 5 minutes to tie.

OK, I consulted Ericbear, a boot expert. He not only explained the function of the kiltie (it does have a function!) but he included a picture, which as they say (whoever they are) is worth a thousand words. The laces can cut the leather and they are particularly abravsive when they pick up gritty dampness. You can replace the kiltie (or false tongue) rather than having the gusseted tongue repaired. Ericbear also says that on golf shoes they are strictly ornamental.

OK, I consulted Ericbear, a boot expertr. He not only explained the function of the kiltie (it does have a function!) but he included a picture, which as they say (whoever they are) is worth a thousand words. The laces can cut the leather and they are particularly abravsive when they pick up gritty dampness. You can replace the kiltie (or false tongue) rather than having the gusseted tongue repaired. Ericbear also says that on golf shoes they are strictly ornamental.
I did not know that...very interesting.*strokes goatee while nodding head*

I'm with Michigander, tho. I like to just pull on my boots rather than have to lace and tie 'em. I tie my New Balance once and just slip 'em on and off.

I have a pair of those logger boots in clipless. helps me fit in when riding in hillbilly country.

i was a logger for a while. We wear them because they work. Mine were made by Redwing and did not have the tassles. I got them when I started working heavy equipment and alot of guys used them. Steel toes, full steel shank, great grip. These were tough. Got them when I was eighteen, resoled three times over fifteen years. Retired them when my feet got to big and gave them to my brother two years ago.
my replacements were the updated model. They are the only boots approved for progress energy feild workers. All the benefits of the old ones with better insulation and protection.
Old, black. New, brown.
http://www.redwingshoes.com/images/boots/large/2218.jpg

http://www.redwingshoes.com/images/boots/large/2292.jpg

These are the questions asked by one who has never known a callous or a hard day. ******

Fashion statement

City folk and "butch type" men and women pretending to be outdoors types but the things they wear NEVER get muddy

Like cowboy boots worn with suits in some eastern cities

There is a pseudo "cowboy" type here in FTL,last outpost of the eastern cattle empire, don'tchaknow, atty, drives a slick Caddy convert the one that looks like a stealth bomber,wears suits always a bolo tie and OSTRICH boots fergawdssake with an ultra pointed toe, accent str8t outta Brkln, newyawk,comes into the local Starbux every AM
One morning recently he's in spouting somethin or other about which he knows everthin
2 OLD guys park a beautiful old 65 Chevy p/u, which need a lot of work,walk in ,dirty levis, and boots which are honestly dirty, have a riding heel,sweaty straw hat, and hear the atty spoutin wisdom, one old timer sayz to his bud,"wow did you ever see a shinier pair of boots, must cost at least 2$ to have those polished every week, atty smiles and tries to figure in the conversation, lifts his trouser leg shows the boots, which really are great looking, but a bit light, if you know what I mean,one old guy says yep those musta cost at least 65$, atty a bit peeved said and I quote F***NO they set me back 750$ other old man said, well with that pointy toe I'll bet you can kill a lot of roaches in corners can't you,(which is a west texas joke),atty realizes he ain't getting anywhere, pix up coffee and leaves

There are honest boot wearers who wear them for work and work in them and.....well others I guess

Fashion statement

City folk and "butch type" men and women pretending to be outdoors types but the things they wear NEVER get muddy

Like cowboy boots worn with suits in some eastern cities
Kind of on the same idea of driving a shiny Hummer that never gets dirty..

I suppose my Red Wing Pecos boots are sufficiently dirty to be credible. It's not good to let mud accumulate and dry as it can ruin the leather, so I do clean them from time to time. But no matter how clean, the grease, oil and mud patina remains and I like it.

I have a pair of fancy expensive boots but I didn't buy them; after a friend died and his family had picked over his stuff, I got them before the remaining lot was sent off to the Salvation Army. They can have 'em when I die.

These are the questions asked by one who has never known a callous or a hard day. ******
**** you.

You're an *******.

Looks like ole fisty wants his every post checked over for three strike possibilities.
Think i'll do an IP check right now, wouldn't want someone using dual identities just to be an O'toole.

old fart chuck... why do you get to cus at us and not vice versa? :p

First. How do you know what is under the asteriks is a profanity? There is no context and in fact it was just several asteriks as originally typed. The percieved insult is not aimed at one person but at the type of person that posts these trolls.
Fistys response has context as the asteriks are in a sentence. They are aimed at one person. Foolishly aimed at that, as the peson they were aimed at might have nothing to do on a Sunday night and the access to see if someone were trolling under an assumed identity or maybe they were trolling or insulting people in violation of the forum rules every one agrees to when they join. Or... Maybe.... Both.

you need video games...

Gamecube, PS2, Xbox360(No great games yet, played a few missions of PerfectDark) Built a birdfeeder, worked on a model, watched an episode of MI5, and read for a while. But there is always time to do some web browsing.

if you get tired of that gamecube would you mind mailing it this way?

First. How do you know what is under the asteriks is a profanity? There is no context and in fact it was just several asteriks as originally typed. The percieved insult is not aimed at one person but at the type of person that posts these trolls.
Fistys response has context as the asteriks are in a sentence. They are aimed at one person. Foolishly aimed at that, as the peson they were aimed at might have nothing to do on a Sunday night and the access to see if someone were trolling under an assumed identity or maybe they were trolling or insulting people in violation of the forum rules every one agrees to when they join. Or... Maybe.... Both.

While Fisty's response was obviously insulting and worthy of action, you're totally overreacting. There is nothing terribly trolly about this OP. Your assumption and statement that anyone who isn't familiar the origin of boot style has never seen a hard day's work is frankly, ludicrous.

So unless I'm missing something major, it's totally unimpressive that you chose this thread to post your own troll, and then banned the OP for his (obviously inappropriate) response.

More info from Ericbear. Wesco made this extravagant false tongue, which he calls a "welder's kiltie" so that the part of the boot that's most likely to get burnt is replaceable.

First. How do you know what is under the asteriks is a profanity? There is no context and in fact it was just several asteriks as originally typed. The percieved insult is not aimed at one person but at the type of person that posts these trolls.
Fistys response has context as the asteriks are in a sentence. They are aimed at one person. Foolishly aimed at that, as the peson they were aimed at might have nothing to do on a Sunday night and the access to see if someone were trolling under an assumed identity or maybe they were trolling or insulting people in violation of the forum rules every one agrees to when they join. Or... Maybe.... Both.
Im glad this kind of behaviors are unacceptable in here and glad you do check on it.. Im new here and have been enjoying this a lot, got a lot of infos and a few great laughs! those kind of unnessary replies made me on edge a bit..glad it isnt the norm!:)

More info from Ericbear. Wesco made this extravagant false tongue, which he calls a "welder's kiltie" so that the part of the boot that's most likely to get burnt is replaceable.
So it's actually called a "kiltie"? I weld in a booth-type thing, so I don't usually have to worry about my feet, tho I did burn through a shoelace once.:o

For the record, he got banned because he was using two profiles to post. One of them was his regular persona and the other was Fisty who justs posts trolls and non sequiter response. AND, if he not made post #37 he would never have drawn any attention.
It was discuseed amoung the mods for a couple of hours and the decision was made to ban Fisty with the minority decision to ban both of them, which I did not do..

My response was exactly what Fisty was looking for, not a troll.

For the record, he got banned because he was using two profiles to post. One of them was his regular persona and the other was Fisty who justs posts trolls and non sequiter response. AND, if he not made post #37 he would never have drawn any attention.
It was discuseed amoung the mods for a couple of hours and the decision was made to ban Fisty with the minority decision to ban both of them, which I did not do..

My response was exactly what Fisty was looking for, not a troll.
Can you spell split personnality? never mind I just did but it all goes back to how people think they can say or act in a way that you wouldnt do in real life cause they are hiding behind a screan.. but.. modern technologie brings us closer to finding them.. now where is the laughing evil icon?:)

Can you spell split personnality? never mind I just did but it all goes back to how people think they can say or act in a way that you wouldnt do in real life cause they are hiding behind a screan.. but.. modern technologie brings us closer to finding them.. now where is the laughing evil icon?:)
:cry: :lol:

:cry: :lol:
that's the evil one? thought it was the "his got better wheels then me" icon:)

blond and french, talk about handicap to over come... what's yours for being so hum hum.. abrasive? lack of love?:)

Here's the lace-up version for cowboys (as opposed to loggers). They're generally called 'packers', and they have smoother soles than the logging boots for easy in and out of stirrups, and the laces keep them on your feet better that traditional cowboy boots when you're leading the horse or walking, which is essential for pack trailing in the high country (as opposed to riding on the plains).

http://www.cavenders.com/assets/product_images/TLCT318_t.jpg

http://www.cavenders.com/assets/product_images/DH9635_t.jpg

So Randya, since you know more about cowboy boots than I do, what is the purpose of the fringe? My sister in law says that the curlier the better the boot is broken in, (therefore more comfy) but is there a purpose on a western boot as opposed to a logger boot or welder boot?

whuchya mean? "hum hum"? .. "abrasive"? as far as "love" goes i have a tub of vaselline, mags & a vacuum cleaner with "lips" on the suction tube in conjuction with my right hand( i call that my "handicap" love machine). As as far as sex goes i carry some pocket change for that, wanna date? ;) :)

What's with the attack? Since your avatar is blonde, I was just wondering if you were a natural blonde that's all.
I think Ill pass.. wouldnt want to see the damage a vacuum cleaner would do.:)

and just for the record.. I havent had any caffeine yet so let me tell you what I exactly think about your post.. that was way too much details for me and although I do consider myself to have a good sense of humor, I took great offence to this. Do you think that the fact that I was staring at the OJ container all day because it said "concentrate" has got me so dizzy and impaired me to know exactly what you meant by your blond statement? and this last quote was a bit disrespectful as well. OK I made my point, now pass the caffeine.

whuchya mean? "hum hum"? .. "abrasive"? as far as "love" goes i have a tub of vaselline, mags & a vacuum cleaner with "lips" on the suction tube in conjuction with my right hand( i call that my "handicap" love machine). As as far as sex goes i carry some pocket change for that, wanna date? ;) :)

What's with the attack? Since your avatar is blonde, I was just wondering if you were a natural blonde that's all.


Ah ha... We've found "Fistys" real persona... SELF-PWN3D! :lol:

No worries, if your concerned about friction in the crusty clam shell.
No, actually I dont really want to be around when you scream "Eureka"! but that's beside the point. This is my last time answering your out of line comments. I dont think you reflect the majority of people i met in here, which were
1- intelligent
2- friendly
3- filled with good advice
Not anything like yourself, dont they have a place for trolls in here?