Touring - Tour-worthy North American railtrails and paths?

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SteelCommuter
01-29-06, 08:02 PM
I was wondering what are the longest carriage road/railtrail/bike path routes in North America? I want to design a trip for my wife, my dog, and I for the summer. I want to avoid car-travelled roads to minimize difficulties of taking my dog. While a few road crossings and routes are OK, I know our needs and do not want to put the dog in a trailer most of the day because of cars.

The idea is that my wife and I would ride with pooch on dirt and rock trails for the tour, but that these trails would not require mountain bikes. Nothing that would require tires wider than 40 mm.

I know these kinds of route exist, but I simply don't know where they are.

thanks :)


roccobike
01-29-06, 08:08 PM
I can only provide extremely limited information. If you come across the American Tobacco Trail in your search for these paths, keep in mind it is NOT finished. A 5.5 mile section connecting Apex to Cary is complete, but it does not run all the way to Durham as shown on some maps. A section about 2 miles long has not been completed. I do not know the length of the section that is complete connecting Cary to Durham. MTB's would have little trouble navigating the missing section but you stated you did not want to deal with sections that required MTBs.

CoyoteLoco
01-29-06, 08:16 PM
Might want to check the John Wayne trail/ Iron Horse trail in WA. I don't know but maybe some research might show that would work for you?


velonomad
01-29-06, 08:41 PM
I was wondering what are the longest carriage road/railtrail/bike path routes in North America? I want to design a trip for my wife, my dog, and I for the summer. I want to avoid car-travelled roads to minimize difficulties of taking my dog. While a few road crossings and routes are OK, I know our needs and do not want to put the dog in a trailer most of the day because of cars.

The idea is that my wife and I would ride with pooch on dirt and rock trails for the tour, but that these trails would not require mountain bikes. Nothing that would require tires wider than 40 mm.

I know these kinds of route exist, but I simply don't know where they are.

thanks :)

You live at one end of my favorite railtrails and we met on the Canalway Trail last summer.

I think the Katy is currently the longest at 225 miles http://www.bikekatytrail.com/

I really like the New River rail trail in Va I rode it this last fall. 57 miles one way
http://www.dcr.state.va.us/parks/newriver.htm.

Here is the trails that is part of my tour this coming September http://www.atatrail.org
http://bikewashington.org/canal/

In Canada has several very long trails but I am not sure what the hassle would be taking your dog across the border. http://www.canadatrails.ca/biking/bike_qc.html

BTW NY just finished another section of the canalway trail between St Johnsville and Valley Falls making a continous 42 mile section between Amsterdam and Little Falls

Rick

stokell
01-30-06, 10:55 AM
Trans Canada Trail (http://www.tctrail.ca/en/home.php) has parts that are off-road, but that accounts for a very small portion. Much is on less travelled roads. When you cross the rockies you will be stuck on the side of the road with lots of trucks flying by.

drcrash
01-30-06, 11:30 AM
The Cowboy trail in Nebraska is a long one. Check out the website: http://www.ngpc.state.ne.us/parks/guides/trails/cowboy/cowboy.asp. The trail parallels US 20 across Nebraska. I rode it a couple years ago, and preferred riding the highway over the trail. US 20 is very lightly travelled out there.

balto charlie
01-30-06, 12:07 PM
Here's a link to this question,like yours, that I posed last year
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=138375&highlight=longest+rail+trail

Orikal
01-30-06, 12:26 PM
The Cowboy trail in Nebraska is a long one. Check out the website: http://www.ngpc.state.ne.us/parks/guides/trails/cowboy/cowboy.asp. The trail parallels US 20 across Nebraska. I rode it a couple years ago, and preferred riding the highway over the trail. US 20 is very lightly travelled out there.

Is the whole thing rideable? For some reason I got the feeling only a portion is complete.

cyccommute
01-30-06, 01:23 PM
The Michelson Trail in South Dakota is about 109 miles long and is an excellent place to ride.

Wisconsin has a whole bucket load of trails that can be strung together for some incredible rides. For example: Starting north of La Crosse, you can ride all the way to Reedsburg on rail trail for about 100 miles. If you start at the west end of the Military Ridge trail and go across Madison to the Glacier Drumlin Trail, you could get about 90 miles of riding.

There are more all over the nation. Try the Rails to Trails Conservancy.

Colorado has a bunch of old railbeds that aren't designated as rail trail but are great for riding. There's Rollin's Pass which is 66 miles round trip from the east portal of the Moffat Tunnel to the west portal. That might not seem like a lot but it does top out at 11,600 feet. Boreas Pass is another great trip of around 50 miles but it's a lot shorter, at only 11,480 feet :D Hagerman Pass from Leadville to Basalt is another tall pass (around 12,000). One of my favorites is starting in Buena Vista and riding up Chalk Creek to Hancock. From the old town of Hancock you have to do a little hike and bike to the top of Williams Pass (don't do Hancock Pass :eek: ), make a little side trip to the Alpine Tunnel, the highest rail tunnel in North America and then down to Pitkin. You could make the trip a loop by going over Cumberland Pass to Tin Cup and then over Cottonwood Pass to Buena Vista. And just think, you'd never go below about 10,000 feet :D

LaughingCoyote
01-30-06, 04:34 PM
You live at one end of my favorite railtrails and we met on the Canalway Trail last summer.



In Canada has several very long trails but I am not sure what the hassle would be taking your dog across the border. http://www.canadatrails.ca/biking/bike_qc.html


Rick

Have proof of vaccinations, at least. My brother and father took our dog across many years ago andthey were stopped until the immigrations could phone the vet to confirm the dog's shots were up to date.

In Wisconsin, it seems you can ride about 200 miles on the Gandy Dancer and Wild Rivers state trails, returning by relatively short connection by road from the southern terminous of the Wild Rivers back to the southern terminous of the Gandy Dancer (or vv.). There is also an additional 78 mile Tuscobia State Trail that extends eastward from the middle of the Wild Rivers trail. I've never done it, but am looking at it on the map.

I have ridden the Great Rivers - Lacrosse River - Sparta-Elroy - 400 state trails, which together are 101 miles, 3 or 4 times on my way between Minneapolis to Madison. It is a faster trail than the Katy including a series of 3 gentle grades and includes both the oldest Rails-to-Trails trail in the United States and three trailroad tunnels in the Sparta-Elroy section. The railway stations have been refurbished into trail offices and stores, including free internet and showers in some or all (both the stations and the tunnels are closed during the winter season). The trail staff go out of their way to be helpful.

From the terminous of the 400 trail you can ride Highway 23, which comfortable margins, 4-5 hours south to the Military Ridge Trail (27 miles) and take that to Madison, where you connect to the Capital City trail (17 miles) which can connect you to the Glacial Drumlin Trail (52 mi) east. The glacial Drumlin in turn connects to the New Berlin Trail (6.5 miles) which connects to the Oak Leaf Trail (90 mile circuit of Milwaukee) or the Milwaukee Lakefront Trial ("76" trail) to Milwaukee and beyond. There two ferries to Michigan, one from Milwaukee and one from north of Milwaukee, but you are on your own from there.

Wisconsin, which accounts for 3 out of every 5 bicycle-related sales in the United States, is fairly pro-Bike.

Wisconsin State Trails:
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/parks/specific/findatrail.html

Capital City Trail:
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/parks/specific/capcity/

Glacial Drumlin (including map for connecting by road from the Capital City Trail):
http://www.glacialdrumlin.com/

New Berlin Trail:
http://www.midwestroads.com/craigholl/bike/newberlin.html

Oak Leaf Trail:
http://www.midwestroads.com/craigholl/bike/olt.html

Ferries:
http://www.lake-express.com/
http://www.ssbadger.com/schedule/schedule.html

LaughingCoyote
01-30-06, 04:48 PM
You live at one end of my favorite railtrails and we met on the Canalway Trail last summer.

I think the Katy is currently the longest at 225 miles http://www.bikekatytrail.com/

Rick

I rode 125 miles of it last May from East to West and faced a stiff trade wind all the way. There were a lot of people riding the other direction who had started on the west coast (stealing my bragging rights for riding from St. Louis to Minneapolis to Madison) who told me I was riding the wrong direction, mostly retired veterins with interesting war stories. My first night on the trail, I slept in a town green conviently located next to a local bar and across the tracks from some serious girls' softball games, where I had some beer and hotdogs. I was woken at two AM there by the local sheriff who asked if I had seen two teenage couples who'd disappeared with their bikes (I met them coming the other way, and looking a bit like they expected hell to pay, the next morning.)

SteelCommuter
01-30-06, 06:11 PM
Have proof of vaccinations, at least. My brother and father took our dog across many years ago andthey were stopped until the immigrations could phone the vet to confirm the dog's shots were up to date.

In Wisconsin, it seems you can ride about 200 miles on the Gandy Dancer and Wild Rivers state trails, returning by relatively short connection by road from the southern terminous of the Wild Rivers back to the southern terminous of the Gandy Dancer (or vv.). There is also an additional 78 mile Tuscobia State Trail that extends eastward from the middle of the Wild Rivers trail. I've never done it, but am looking at it on the map.

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Wow, thanks for this. I've always wanted to bike in Wisconsin. Really, thanks a lot.

pgh1nc
01-30-06, 06:15 PM
Ohio has some good bike paths.

Little Miami Scenic Trail 68 miles plus connections to others. SW Ohio Yellow Springs to Milford (Cincinatti area). Follows Littoe Miami River to the Ohio River.

Cuyahoga Valley National Recreation Area Has a canal bike path that runs from Cleveland, through Akron (with a few miles yet to be constructed) through Massillon.
50-60 miles?

By conbining the C and O Towpath from Cumberland Maryland to Washington DC (170? miles) plus the trail along the Youghiogheny River between Pittsburgh, PA and Confluence, near Cumberland Maryland, one can bike from Pittsburgh to Washington DC almost entirely on bike trails.

Fine RTC - Trraillink.com for trails in all ? states.

cc_rider
01-30-06, 06:35 PM
C&O Canal, long and pretty.
http://www.bikewashington.org/canal/index.htm

Connects up with several other trails in DC: the Capital Cresent, Mount Vernon and the W&OD

JerryInLodi
01-30-06, 08:38 PM
Katy Trail from Clinton Missouri to St. Louis, a rails to trails project approximately 240 miles long. Lots of stuff available on the web. Surface is compacted limestone, as hard as concrete. I have a journal with pictures on my website.

Natchez Trace, about 450 miles long from Baton Rouge to Nashville. Paved surface open to bikes and slow moving vehicles, most of the trace is parklike. Also tons of info on web.

Just Google either name.

BLM
01-30-06, 08:52 PM
The Katy Trail is indeed about 240. I have ridden it 3 times in the last 2.5 years (all West to East) and I ride on it about once a week at the East end (where I live). It is very scenic with towns every 10-15 miles. I have never camped along the route, but I can give you some info on some of the hotels and B&B's I have stayed at. I also have some pictures on my website which is listed below. Feel free to email me if you have any questions.

Good Luck.

foggydew
01-30-06, 10:04 PM
Check out the Kettle Valley Railway/Trail in British Columbia. There are many websites related to this trail which covers about 600km in total. Check out: http://www.planet.eon.net/~dan/kvr.html

NoReg
01-31-06, 01:18 AM
What is the typical etiquette/rule about barreling along with dogs that aren't on a lead?

jeff williams
01-31-06, 02:04 AM
What is the typical etiquette/rule about barreling along with dogs that aren't on a lead?

Command -OFF!
Into the bush.
Dogs are smart.

drcrash
01-31-06, 08:58 AM
Is the whole thing [Nebraska's Cowboy Trail] rideable? For some reason I got the feeling only a portion is complete.

You are correct. Only about 40% of the trail was complete at the time I rode that route. The traffic on most of US 20 (parallels the trail) is so light that I preferred the road's pavement over the trail's crushed limestone. Have fun.

frankieN
01-31-06, 09:25 AM
How about something out of the ordinary? Perhaps a Florida bike tour! Check out the Withlacoochee Trail (46 miles through some beautiful scenery and towns). It would not be too difficult to also hook up to the General James A. Van Fleet trail (29.2 miles). It would make a great trip.

DeeMaGlee
01-31-06, 12:11 PM
Check out Washington DC's trails.

It's hardly an isolated area, so if you're looking for serenity and quietness, forget it. Sunny days will make the trails as busy as the surrounding roads, but DC folk are easily put off by a wee bit of grey sky. DC does have some terrific trails though...Rock Creek Park is the largest urban park in the US, and Beach Drive has a large portion closed to vehicles on weekends in the District. The rest of it has traffic, but it's still rideable. There's also an alternate path to ride on if the traffic is too hairy for your liking.

Tour the monuments. Take the Mount Vernon trail to George Washington's residence and take a look around. Capital Crescent trail, Anacostia Tributary trails, W&OD trail, Metropolitan Branch trail, WB&A Trail. The C&O Canal towpath to Cumberland, MD is 185 miles long.

There's a lot of info on the WABA site (http://www.waba.org/new/paths/index.php) about local trails.

SteelCommuter
01-31-06, 03:58 PM
What is the typical etiquette/rule about barreling along with dogs that aren't on a lead?


I imagine you mean if you encounter someone, right? Well, what I do on busy trails is keep him on lead, which we have trained each other to do well while on the bike. If it fairly deserted--for example, the Canal trail behind my house has parts that see very few people, especially on weekdays and winter--then I keep him off leash unless I see someone in the distance. Then, I command him with a hand signal to come over so I can leash him.

I also have to careful because my dog is deaf, and that affects the decisions I make. He is also wary of strangers, particularly men and male dogs, so I never take chances. Of course, the textbook rule is never to take a deaf dog off lead, but textbooks also suggest euthanizing them.

My system works very well for me, and I don't like it when people leave their own dog off leash as we approach each other.

jimmuter
01-31-06, 05:40 PM
I can only provide extremely limited information. If you come across the American Tobacco Trail in your search for these paths, keep in mind it is NOT finished. A 5.5 mile section connecting Apex to Cary is complete, but it does not run all the way to Durham as shown on some maps. A section about 2 miles long has not been completed. I do not know the length of the section that is complete connecting Cary to Durham. MTB's would have little trouble navigating the missing section but you stated you did not want to deal with sections that required MTBs.

I've ridden that section on my hybrid. It takes some manuevering to find a suitable place to cross I-40, but it's possible. The ride was a little bumpy at some parts down to Cary, but definitely navigable. We just passed a bond referendum to build a bridge over I-40 connecting those two sections of the trail. There are other trails that connect to the north of the Durham end of the ATT too. The ATT officially ends at the Durham Bulls Athletic Park currently, but you can get trails with some road travel up to Whipporwill Park in north Durham. All told, I think it's about 23 miles of trail, some parts more finished than others. I don't consider that a touring distance, but it's nice to live near it.

I hear there is a fairly nice trail from Meyersdale, PA to somewhere near Pittsburgh. It's about 100 miles I think.

ken cummings
02-03-06, 11:44 PM
A hundred plus mile section of the south end California Aquaduct was open for cycling when I rode in that area in the 1990s. Open only to bikers and hikers, not cars. A shorter chuck in the north was open in the 1980s. Check to see if you can still use it. Easiest access is just north of the In-N-Out restruant in Hesperia.

dbuzi123
02-04-06, 09:07 AM
A hundred plus mile section of the south end California Aquaduct was open for cycling when I rode in that area in the 1990s. Open only to bikers and hikers, not cars. A shorter chuck in the north was open in the 1980s. Check to see if you can still use it. Easiest access is just north of the In-N-Out restruant in Hesperia.

I believe this path has been closed to cyclists indefinitely. I think it had to do with security concerns.

SteelCommuter
02-04-06, 12:37 PM
I believe this path has been closed to cyclists indefinitely. I think it had to do with security concerns.


I used to live about fifteen miles from there, and I can't imagine that the riding is anywhere as nice as the rail trails mentioned in other posts. Additionally, in the summer, it gets mighty hot out there.

If people are interested in riding on nice, flat, and fairly desolate roads in that region, though, you can travel towards the military base north of the Palmdale Highway. There are immaculate untravelled roads there. Just don't wander into the base :)

Travelinguyrt
02-04-06, 02:49 PM
That 600Km ride in BC sounds outta sight.plus it gives me ideas about taking my dog with me, in a trailer, he is a Scottie and his legs are only about 6 inches long

slowclimb
02-04-06, 03:45 PM
Several people have already mentioned the Katy Trail in Missouri. It is long, much of it is quite remote (wildlife spotted included wild hogs) and the surface is, as has already been said, crushed limestone. If you go, the historic Hotel Bothwell in Sedalia is someplace you have to stay and make sure you leave time to sample the wines and dine at the Stone Hill Vineyard in Hermann. Of course, not everyone lucks out and stumbles across the old tractor and threshing machine show in Boonville, like we did (Oh, the pies!)

My brother and I have ridden it twice (once in each direction, west to east is easier) and some of our best stories are from those trips. Not every place we have stayed along the route has been somewhere I would necessarily recommend, but they were all interesting! We've stayed in at least a couple of B&B's along (or near) the trail that would welcome your dog, at least as long as it tolerates cats.

Great trip.

roosmachine
02-05-06, 09:20 AM
There are a couple more less known rail trails in Canada.

One is the Confederation Trail on PEI, which spans 273 kms from the east to the west side of the Island. The Island itself is very pleasant and quiet, you are never that far from a tiny town.
http://www.gov.pe.ca/visitorsguide/explore/trail.php3


There is also the Newfoundland Trailway which is more remote and much more of a challenge. Its not complete in all area's but will take you places pretty remote and out of the way. The island is like no other place on this planet, the people are the warm and friendly if not just a bit 'odd', you'll fall in love with the 'newfies'.
http://www.trailway.ca/

A good cross Canada journal that uses a few railtrails is http://www.planetranger.com/transcanada/
They use The Kettle Valley Trail, the Petit Temis (quebec), a few trails in Newbrunswick, as well as the Newfloundland Trailway. Some great pictures and experiences.

There are couple of journals on http://www.crazyguyonabike.com that cover the Kettle Valley rail systems.

roopurt
http://xcanada.roosmachine.com
http://canada2005.crazyguyonabike.com

Tripel 4 me
02-06-06, 11:20 PM
The KVR Trail in South Central BC Canada is never more than 2% up or down, it's a beautiful ride on a great trail, lots of Wild life. There are B&B's along the way, 20 to 30 miles apart. Check their web site KVR Trail BC Canada.

GeorgerinNH
02-08-06, 04:53 PM
Hello...

I have recently been trying to find a way across the country using rail trails and bike paths. I have yet to find anything signifigant. There a many local paths that last for 5 or 10 miles, but nothing much longer. The longest streach that I could find was a path along the Eire Canal in NY that goes for around 250/300 miles along the canal. Otherwise, things seem to be very strung out.

Charlie

USAZorro
02-08-06, 07:49 PM
The Erie Canal pathway is quite good. Some sections are paved, but the rest are good gravel. I've done the entire C&O canal, and would have to note that, while the ride is very enjoyable, there are sections where you definitely want to have a mountain bike.

edp773
02-10-06, 09:04 AM
The I & M Canal trail will take you from north of Joliet, Il to Spring Valley, IL. Then it is a short ride to Bureau, Il where the Hennepin Canal trail will take you to Colona, Il. Then there is a feeder canal bife path that will take you nort to Rock Falls, Il.

Not far away is the Great River Trail, but you will need to ride on a highway for a few miles. The GRT will have leash laws.